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Ricky_ wrote: ↑08 Dec 2017, 14:45 If you are in Guillermo's corner, what is your tactics in this one?

I think the size advantage is a major factor here. Rigo against anyone his own size i think makes an easy night of corner work for his team; he just needs to do his this thing.

But Rigo is not only up against a fighter of possible equal (or better?) technical ability, but he's up against a bigger man.

Is Rigo reduced to a puncher's chance, or can he outbox Lomachenko from the outside? Despite being 2 inches shorter, Rigo actually possesses a 2.5" reach advantage over Vasyl.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑08 Dec 2017, 15:32

Ricky_ wrote: ↑08 Dec 2017, 14:45 If you are in Guillermo's corner, what is your tactics in this one?

I think the size advantage is a major factor here. Rigo against anyone his own size i think makes an easy night of corner work for his team; he just needs to do his this thing.

But Rigo is not only up against a fighter of possible equal (or better?) technical ability, but he's up against a bigger man.

Is Rigo reduced to a puncher's chance, or can he outbox Lomachenko from the outside? Despite being 2 inches shorter, Rigo actually possesses a 2.5" reach advantage over Vasyl.

Regarding your last point, I've said on another thread I'd be interested to see if GR can establish the jab. *if* Lomas footwork has been slightly flattered by facing mostly quite slow footed fighters, and GR's footwork can prevent him getting Angles and make it more a potshotting contest from the outside i certainly think he can at least win rounds. He could break Lomas rhythm with the jab and stop him throwing those flurries. Which have also IMO been more impressive since Loma has fought mostly slower guys, or the only quicker guy he faced Russell, can't really crack an egg, so he can scot round them at angles and pepper them. A quicker guy like GR who can also punch is a very different proposition to the guys Loma has looked a million dollars against.

Albeit it is easy to conceive of a basically one punch at a time guy like GR being out worked by Loma, which is why GR needs to try and mess Lomas rhythm up with feints, movement and jab.

Ricky_ wrote: ↑08 Dec 2017, 14:45 If you are in Guillermo's corner, what is your tactics in this one?

I think the size advantage is a major factor here. Rigo against anyone his own size i think makes an easy night of corner work for his team; he just needs to do his this thing.

But Rigo is not only up against a fighter of possible equal (or better?) technical ability, but he's up against a bigger man.

Is Rigo reduced to a puncher's chance, or can he outbox Lomachenko from the outside? Despite being 2 inches shorter, Rigo actually possesses a 2.5" reach advantage over Vasyl.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑08 Dec 2017, 15:38

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑08 Dec 2017, 15:32

Ricky_ wrote: ↑08 Dec 2017, 14:45 If you are in Guillermo's corner, what is your tactics in this one?

I think the size advantage is a major factor here. Rigo against anyone his own size i think makes an easy night of corner work for his team; he just needs to do his this thing.

But Rigo is not only up against a fighter of possible equal (or better?) technical ability, but he's up against a bigger man.

Is Rigo reduced to a puncher's chance, or can he outbox Lomachenko from the outside? Despite being 2 inches shorter, Rigo actually possesses a 2.5" reach advantage over Vasyl.

Regarding your last point, I've said on another thread I'd be interested to see if GR can establish the jab. *if* Lomas footwork has been slightly flattered by facing mostly quite slow footed fighters, and GR's footwork can prevent him getting Angles and make it more a potshotting contest from the outside i certainly think he can at least win rounds. He could break Lomas rhythm with the jab and stop him throwing those flurries. Which have also IMO been more impressive since Loma has fought mostly slower guys, or the only quicker guy he faced Russell, can't really crack an egg, so he can scot round them at angles and pepper them. A quicker guy like GR who can also punch is a very different proposition to the guys Loma has looked a million dollars against.

Albeit it is easy to conceive of a basically one punch at a time guy like GR being out worked by Loma, which is why GR needs to try and mess Lomas rhythm up with feints, movement and jab.

Nice post
I also think the slight reach advantage, and height deficit makes RG's jab vital in this fight. If I was Rigo, I would fight small and bang out the jab. I expect this fight to be a bit cagey for the first 2-3 rounds.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑08 Dec 2017, 18:09 I'm not sure Rigo can/will switch tactics. I don't see him letting his hands go much more than usual, mind, maybe Lomas pace will force more work out of him than usual.

Lackeos wrote: ↑08 Dec 2017, 22:47 Oh, dude, once Lomachenko gets a taste of that crazy Rigondeaux power, which KO'ed 11 entire fighters who weigh 125 pounds and less, most of them about 121.5 pounds...

How else could it possibly end?

caldo2025 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 07:33 It will be interesting to find out if this fight resembles a professional boxing match or an Olympic one considering the background of the two fighters. Will Loma continue with the mocking and the hands down defense in this one to please the crowd? Will the extra weight actually help Rigo inside the ring after a healthy camp without drastic weight cutting? Either way, i think that we'll see an exciting fight. I'm not sold that Loma is such a huge favorite in this one.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 07:40

caldo2025 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 07:33 It will be interesting to find out if this fight resembles a professional boxing match or an Olympic one considering the background of the two fighters. Will Loma continue with the mocking and the hands down defense in this one to please the crowd? Will the extra weight actually help Rigo inside the ring after a healthy camp without drastic weight cutting? Either way, i think that we'll see an exciting fight. I'm not sold that Loma is such a huge favorite in this one.

two good questions. I suspect the answer to the second is yes. whether or not its an Olympic-style fencing match depends on how well Loma does with that style (which is what GR will want to make sure the fight plays out as). he's the one who has the stylistic option to up the pace and make more of a fight of it, if the fencing-contest isn't working so well for him.