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Do you think Tyson will come back in 2018 and win a world title? There's talks of him fighting Bellew, which wouldn't be for a world title. Also big talk of him fighting Joshua for the IBF, WBA titles.

I reckon he should go for the WBA regular and fight Charr - would be a good name and a title in his first or second fight back and then dance with Joshua.

Does he beat AJ next year? (IBF & WBA)
Does he beat Parker? (WBO)
Does he beat Wilder? (WBC)
Does he beat Charr? (WBA Regular)

I don't and I doubt anyone else considers the WBA regular title to really be a world title. If Tyson came back, beat Joshua, Wilder and Parker, then he's undisputed. Moaning about him not fighting Charr would be a very weak argument.

If a World Champion is willing to face him then yes...

dirk2686 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2017, 05:11 I don't and I doubt anyone else considers the WBA regular title to really be a world title. If Tyson came back, beat Joshua, Wilder and Parker, then he's undisputed. Moaning about him not fighting Charr would be a very weak argument.

I understand your argument. I don't really class the regular title as a world title, I don't really count any regular titles. It was just a name to throw in there.

Charr for the regular title would be a decent comeback fight after two years though. Can imagine it will be someone lower down the rankings

Depends how much of a toll his dicking about the last two years has had on him. Fury seems to have been overrated these last two years as well, let's not forget how vulnerable he could be at times. If Steve Cunningham and Neven Pajkic can put him on his arse then Wilder and Joshua can too. Fury at his best I think is a little too awkward for them.

Problem with Fury is that I can’t see him motivating himself for a couple of warm up fights first.
If he goes straight in with a title fight then it will probably only be because he wants a last pay day and the fans end up with a disappointing fight

He's still got it in him

would probably beat Parker as Fury is too big.
The thing that wins him fights is his height and obviously using it well even against Wlad.
I remember looking at the ratings as Fury was on the way up and realised they had picked the shortest heavys out of the bunch going through the top 20 at the time.
Is he much taller than Joshua? I know they are both giants

Spiker wrote: ↑13 Dec 2017, 06:31 would probably beat Parker as Fury is too big.
The thing that wins him fights is his height and obviously using it well even against Wlad.
I remember looking at the ratings as Fury was on the way up and realised they had picked the shortest heavys out of the bunch going through the top 20 at the time.
Is he much taller than Joshua? I know they are both giants

3 inches taller, 3 inch reach advantage. So not really.

banjo wrote: ↑13 Dec 2017, 06:33

Spiker wrote: ↑13 Dec 2017, 06:31 would probably beat Parker as Fury is too big.
The thing that wins him fights is his height and obviously using it well even against Wlad.
I remember looking at the ratings as Fury was on the way up and realised they had picked the shortest heavys out of the bunch going through the top 20 at the time.
Is he much taller than Joshua? I know they are both giants

3 inches taller, 3 inch reach advantage. So not really.

I could see how Fury if in shape could mess Joshua around then. Forearm in face when he get close etc.
Its his sheer size that gives him advantages. Footwork is quite fluid too I guess for a guy that size

The Gypsy King will once again reign supreme......

If he's fit and motivated and back with Peter then he will be champ again. Skill wise he's head and shoulders above anyone out there. AJ and Wilder can both whack though and Tyson can switch off at times and get caught.

It's a much more exciting division with him back.

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2017, 06:45 The Gypsy King will once again reign supreme......

If he's fit and motivated and back with Peter then he will be champ again. Skill wise he's head and shoulders above anyone out there. AJ and Wilder can both whack though and Tyson can switch off at times and get caught.

It's a much more exciting division with him back.

100% spot on

Londonirish wrote: ↑13 Dec 2017, 06:50

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2017, 06:45 The Gypsy King will once again reign supreme......

If he's fit and motivated and back with Peter then he will be champ again. Skill wise he's head and shoulders above anyone out there. AJ and Wilder can both whack though and Tyson can switch off at times and get caught.

It's a much more exciting division with him back.

100% spot on

Cheers bruv You tuning in to the fight on BN the now?

I'd like Bellew on Sky PPV. Very easy few million as a warm up.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2017, 07:08 I'd like Bellew on Sky PPV. Very easy few million as a warm up.

I just want to see Tony chinned.... He's a fuckin circus at heavyweight. You're right though, it's a good earner and easy enough nights work for Tyson.

I think he'll fight Charr.

If fury wins a warm up fight first, I could see a contest between him and AJ happening next year.
Eddie Hearn seems keen to make it happen and it would be a BIG event in the U.K.
I think it would be a good alternative if the AJ and Wilder camps can not agree terms.
Joshua would be able to add the linear title to his collection!

No

Parker and Charr he'd beat.

AJ and Wilder I think he needs 2 or 3 fights first.

If he can face say, Charr in April. Defend against someone top 15 but not elite like Pulev, Bellew or Browne and then look for AJ and Wilder.

Fury won't fight in 2018 at all. All he will do is get fatter and talk gibberish.

If he is in shape mentally an physically, not necessarily weight, but conditioning and mental state are most important then I believe he could win any or all of the titles. Joshua obviously the most difficult test but I think he could beat him. The question is who will he fight. Will it be difficult for him to get these fights, will people want too much money? He is a big draw and certainly a dangerous opponent for all of them even if hes not in the same shape as when he beat Wlad

Fury hasnt even hit his peak years yet. He will come back and beat who he needs to then be gone again point proven.cant wait to see him totally outbox Joshua it will be a calzaghe vs lacy kind of fight.

No he won't. Parker will lose to AJ in his next fight which leaves AJ and Wilder and I do not think Fury is this multi-skilled maestro of the ring who we read about, even in this thread.

Big guy has some skills for sure and did in fact beat the "super" champion (what a garbage made-up shite adjective which means nothing. You are either a champion or you are not) but I do not think that borefest and his running around flapping his arms and confusing the shite out of that Ukraine robot (who just looked flummoxed and out of sorts totally that night) proves he is capable of the masterclasses that are suggested.

You know, even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days, meaning that sooner or later, everyone experiences some good luck and one performance, one night, has never before led so many boxing fans to go so overboard. History is littered with people who pulled out a great looking performance against a heavily favoured and respected guy but subsequent performances then suggesting that initial performance was flattered and more a case of the favoured guy hugely underperforming.

He may well go on to prove his worth and that it was a case of his great boxing skills and I will wait to see how the future pans out, I personally think the truth fits somewhere in the middle of that fight proving how good he is and it being an exceptional circumstance and the stars lining up

I certainly hope so, then goes on for a unification with Joshua. That would be brilliant for British boxing.

Depends on so many things.

Is he coming back because of the dough on offer? Is he fully motivated and wants to regain what he never lost in the ring? Will the others face him? ( to be fair, the titles he held, he should be first in line for a shot at )

If he’s back to his very best then he stands a great chance.

Charr up first would be perfect. He’s beat him easily

Then after that? A great move would be to face Ortiz. Again, if Tyson is back to his best he beats him comfortably. That would be a statement considering plenty think Ortiz is avoided