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Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 02:04**

They are still bums.
This heavyweight "REVIVAL" is just Wlad getting old.

6 years ago,
Joshua, Wilder, Ortiz, Fury and Parker would all be Wlad KO victims.
How can you ignore that, and just salivate over bums?
Makes me think most of you here just desire big men.

Just having big parents shouldn't garner a human more attention.

Heavyweights are bums.
Let's give the cruisers more TV time and attention.

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 02:51**

So just because cruiserweights are smaller they should get more attention?

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 02:57**

aj and wlder are two of my favourtes but outsde them and maybe a few others overall the dvson s pretty bad and the only where every other guys overweight. cruser has power speed and better conditioning.

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 03:28**

asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 02:51 So just because cruiserweights are smaller they should get more attention?

How do you type and blow Povetkin at the same time?

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 03:33**

and pov shouldve lost to a cruiser. huc beat his ass.

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 03:35**

The HW division always has dips and troughs. It's only a dip at the moment, at least it's not a trough

Parker and Ortiz would probably get dropped by a 42 year old Wlad anyway.

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 04:49**

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 03:35 The HW division always has dips and troughs. It's only a dip at the moment, at least it's not a trough

Parker and Ortiz would probably get dropped by a 42 year old Wlad anyway.

Shitt you've got to be toking!!! ... Wladimir couldn't do crap to Bryant Jennings for 12 rounds... Ortiz was KILLING Jennings from the 1st round... He was smoking his ass all the way with right hooks and uppercuts Wlad never threw.

The Heavyweight Division has never been stronger...

You’re not impressed with Ortiz? … A 6’4” X 245lb slick boxing southpaw with murderous power in both hands??? I guess you’re not impressed by the money that May-Mac drew either.

TOP 40 HEAVYWEIGHTS TODAY... Strongest and most international the top ranks have ever been.

1. Anthony Joshua... 2. Luis Ortiz... 3. Deontay Wilder... 4. Alexander Povetkin... 5. Joseph Parker... 6. Jarrell Miller... 7. Dominic Breazeale... 8. Andy Ruiz... 9. Carlos Takam... 10. Dillian Whyte 11. Kubrat Pulev... 12. Hughie Fury... 13. David Haye... 14. Bryant Jennings... 15. Johann Duhaupas... 16. Tom Schwarz... 17. Gerald Washington... 18. Charles Martin... 19. Christian Hammer... 20. Oscar Rivas... 21. Izuagbe Ugonoh... 22. Jun Long Zhang 23. Dereck Chisora... 24. Ruslan Chagaev... 25. Otto Wallin... 26. Artur Szpilka... 27. Amir Mansour… 28. Bermane Stiverne... 29. Czar Glazkov... 30. Robert Helenius... 31. Eric Molina... 32. Tony Bellew… 33. Malik Scott... 34. Erkan Tepper... 35. Alexander Ustinov... 36. Adam Kownacki... 37. Lucas Browne... 38. Francesco Pianeta... 39. Carlos Negron... 40. Andriy Rudenko

Take a quick look at some Puke City Heavyweight Title Challengers from the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s:

Don Cockell... Roland LaStarza... Tom McNeely... Pete Rademacher... Roy Harris... Brian London... Henry Cooper... Karl Mildenbugger... Alfredo Evangelista... Chuck Wepner... Jean Pierre Coopman... Leon Stinks... Terry Daniels... Dave Zyglewitz... Manuel Ramos... Ron Stander... Richard Dunn...

How did those little fart bags ever get title shots???

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 07:05**

jamamb wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 03:33 and pov shouldve lost to a cruiser. huc beat his ass.

Povetkin won that fight clear as day. You don't know how to score a fight if you think Huck won that.

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 07:07**

povetkin got his ass beaten around the ring

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 07:56**

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 03:28
asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 02:51 So just because cruiserweights are smaller they should get more attention?
How do you type and blow Povetkin at the same time?

Not, how do you?

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 14:12**

Kalan, there was a time when I found Ortiz exciting as a potential candidate for a belt. But now I would need reconvincing. I feel father time may have got to him. Too old and too inactive.
Thanks for the effort in response to my post, I enjoyed reading that and I do see your point.
As for fart bags getting an inexplicable title shot, Stiverne ring any bells?

He didn't even get to hear the first bell

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 17:20**

Kalan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 04:49
KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 03:35 The HW division always has dips and troughs. It's only a dip at the moment, at least it's not a trough

Parker and Ortiz would probably get dropped by a 42 year old Wlad anyway.
Shitt you've got to be toking!!! ... Wladimir couldn't do crap to Bryant Jennings for 12 rounds... Ortiz was KILLING Jennings from the 1st round... He was smoking his ass all the way with right hooks and uppercuts Wlad never threw.

The Heavyweight Division has never been stronger...

You’re not impressed with Ortiz? … A 6’4” X 245lb slick boxing southpaw with murderous power in both hands??? I guess you’re not impressed by the money that May-Mac drew either.

TOP 40 HEAVYWEIGHTS TODAY... Strongest and most international the top ranks have ever been.

1. Anthony Joshua... 2. Luis Ortiz... 3. Deontay Wilder... 4. Alexander Povetkin... 5. Joseph Parker... 6. Jarrell Miller... 7. Dominic Breazeale... 8. Andy Ruiz... 9. Carlos Takam... 10. Dillian Whyte 11. Kubrat Pulev... 12. Hughie Fury... 13. David Haye... 14. Bryant Jennings... 15. Johann Duhaupas... 16. Tom Schwarz... 17. Gerald Washington... 18. Charles Martin... 19. Christian Hammer... 20. Oscar Rivas... 21. Izuagbe Ugonoh... 22. Jun Long Zhang 23. Dereck Chisora... 24. Ruslan Chagaev... 25. Otto Wallin... 26. Artur Szpilka... 27. Amir Mansour… 28. Bermane Stiverne... 29. Czar Glazkov... 30. Robert Helenius... 31. Eric Molina... 32. Tony Bellew… 33. Malik Scott... 34. Erkan Tepper... 35. Alexander Ustinov... 36. Adam Kownacki... 37. Lucas Browne... 38. Francesco Pianeta... 39. Carlos Negron... 40. Andriy Rudenko

Take a quick look at some Puke City Heavyweight Title Challengers from the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s:

Don Cockell... Roland LaStarza... Tom McNeely... Pete Rademacher... Roy Harris... Brian London... Henry Cooper... Karl Mildenbugger... Alfredo Evangelista... Chuck Wepner... Jean Pierre Coopman... Leon Stinks... Terry Daniels... Dave Zyglewitz... Manuel Ramos... Ron Stander... Richard Dunn...

How did those little fart bags ever get title shots???

Jenning was the fight everyone saw Wlad as old and vulnerable.
Funny how you pick that one out.

Povetkin is competitive with today's top heavyweights.
Wlad made him look feeble.

All of these guys are just Wlad 2011 KO victims.

Just admit you love you some big men.

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 17:54**

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 17:20
Kalan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 04:49
KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 03:35 The HW division always has dips and troughs. It's only a dip at the moment, at least it's not a trough

Parker and Ortiz would probably get dropped by a 42 year old Wlad anyway.
Shitt you've got to be toking!!! ... Wladimir couldn't do crap to Bryant Jennings for 12 rounds... Ortiz was KILLING Jennings from the 1st round... He was smoking his ass all the way with right hooks and uppercuts Wlad never threw.

The Heavyweight Division has never been stronger...

You’re not impressed with Ortiz? … A 6’4” X 245lb slick boxing southpaw with murderous power in both hands??? I guess you’re not impressed by the money that May-Mac drew either.

TOP 40 HEAVYWEIGHTS TODAY... Strongest and most international the top ranks have ever been.

1. Anthony Joshua... 2. Luis Ortiz... 3. Deontay Wilder... 4. Alexander Povetkin... 5. Joseph Parker... 6. Jarrell Miller... 7. Dominic Breazeale... 8. Andy Ruiz... 9. Carlos Takam... 10. Dillian Whyte 11. Kubrat Pulev... 12. Hughie Fury... 13. David Haye... 14. Bryant Jennings... 15. Johann Duhaupas... 16. Tom Schwarz... 17. Gerald Washington... 18. Charles Martin... 19. Christian Hammer... 20. Oscar Rivas... 21. Izuagbe Ugonoh... 22. Jun Long Zhang 23. Dereck Chisora... 24. Ruslan Chagaev... 25. Otto Wallin... 26. Artur Szpilka... 27. Amir Mansour… 28. Bermane Stiverne... 29. Czar Glazkov... 30. Robert Helenius... 31. Eric Molina... 32. Tony Bellew… 33. Malik Scott... 34. Erkan Tepper... 35. Alexander Ustinov... 36. Adam Kownacki... 37. Lucas Browne... 38. Francesco Pianeta... 39. Carlos Negron... 40. Andriy Rudenko

Take a quick look at some Puke City Heavyweight Title Challengers from the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s:

Don Cockell... Roland LaStarza... Tom McNeely... Pete Rademacher... Roy Harris... Brian London... Henry Cooper... Karl Mildenbugger... Alfredo Evangelista... Chuck Wepner... Jean Pierre Coopman... Leon Stinks... Terry Daniels... Dave Zyglewitz... Manuel Ramos... Ron Stander... Richard Dunn...

How did those little fart bags ever get title shots???
Jenning was the fight everyone saw Wlad as old and vulnerable.
Funny how you pick that one out.

Povetkin is competitive with today's top heavyweights.
Wlad made him look feeble.

All of these guys are just Wlad 2011 KO victims.

Just admit you love you some big men.

Kalan is special.......Ed

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 17:56**

I don't think anybody was exactly pretending like this was some great era of Heavyweights or anything so I don't know what all the hubbub is about to begin with.

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 18:29**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 17:56 I don't think anybody was exactly pretending like this was some great era of Heavyweights or anything so I don't know what all the hubbub is about to begin with.

No, it isn't anything special. The thread on HW prospects confirmed it pretty much.
We have a time when one really great HW retired, one great HW filled his shoes, one HW who thinks he is great but is still unproven, and finally one once great HW who might yet be that again.
It could be worse

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 18:32**

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 18:29
gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 17:56 I don't think anybody was exactly pretending like this was some great era of Heavyweights or anything so I don't know what all the hubbub is about to begin with.
No, it isn't anything special. The thread on HW prospects confirmed it pretty much.
We have a time when one really great HW retired, one great HW filled his shoes, one HW who thinks he is great but is still unproven, and finally one once great HW who might yet be that again.
It could be worse

Who's the once great yet to be that again?

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 19:16**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 18:32
KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 18:29
gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 17:56 I don't think anybody was exactly pretending like this was some great era of Heavyweights or anything so I don't know what all the hubbub is about to begin with.
No, it isn't anything special. The thread on HW prospects confirmed it pretty much.
We have a time when one really great HW retired, one great HW filled his shoes, one HW who thinks he is great but is still unproven, and finally one once great HW who might yet be that again.
It could be worse

Who's the once great yet to be that again?

Tyson Fury (excuse my overzelous fan-boy adoration

)

Posted: **16 Dec 2017, 19:51**

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 19:16
gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 18:32
KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 18:29

No, it isn't anything special. The thread on HW prospects confirmed it pretty much.
We have a time when one really great HW retired, one great HW filled his shoes, one HW who thinks he is great but is still unproven, and finally one once great HW who might yet be that again.
It could be worse

Who's the once great yet to be that again?
Tyson Fury (excuse my overzelous fan-boy adoration )

He's never been great nor will he ever be, but you're excused.

Posted: **17 Dec 2017, 00:39**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 17:56 I don't think anybody was exactly pretending like this was some great era of Heavyweights or anything so I don't know what all the hubbub is about to begin with.

Dude just called Tyson Fury “once great”.
And they’re many similar opinions.

People think Joshua is good?
He got taken to the limit by a washed up Wlad.

I think that qualifies a hubbub.

Posted: **17 Dec 2017, 07:52**

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 19:16 Tyson Fury (excuse my overzelous fan-boy adoration )

knowing that is the first step to cure it..

Posted: **17 Dec 2017, 09:48**

Boxers don't have to be great to have entertaining matches, and there's a few interesting possible ones.

Posted: **17 Dec 2017, 14:56**

greg wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 07:52
KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 19:16 Tyson Fury (excuse my overzelous fan-boy adoration )
knowing that is the first step to cure it..

Thanks Greg. If we form a support group, I promise to bring the biscuits.

Posted: **17 Dec 2017, 15:39**

It's not a vintage era but we have three belt holders (all undefeated) and an undefeated former champion waiting in the wings. Any combination of these chaps could create decent, competitive fights, and isn't that what we all want to see?

Posted: **17 Dec 2017, 15:52**

Whether anybody likes it not the Klitschko's are among the greatest heavyweights we've ever seen.

But now we have Joshua, Wilder, Povetkin and a whole new generation of heavyweights coming up.

Anthony Joshua is the top man right now. He fights regularly and beat the previous top man. The great thing is that he still trying to learn and improve. If he does he will remain on top for as long as he wants to. A modern day Joe Louis no less.

His only serious rival right now might be Deontay Wilder, but that's a fight for later.

Posted: **18 Dec 2017, 05:38**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 19:51
KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 19:16
gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 18:32

Who's the once great yet to be that again?
Tyson Fury (excuse my overzelous fan-boy adoration )
He's never been great nor will he ever be, but you're excused.

I'm impressed Gil. I winced when I read Kiwi's appeal, knowing your feelings toward Fury. I thought it was like a subordinate of Heinrich Himmler asking him for time-off for Yom Kippur

Your restraint does you credit.

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