BoxRec

Following on from the other thread I thought it would be interesting to discuss this.

I seen on Twitter the other day that allegedly signed WBO European champion Lerrone Richards works as a stock controller at Tesco.

Amy others?

I think Adil Anwar works for Lloyds Bank as a complaints handler.

I believe Denton Vassell is still working for HSBC but not sure.

Jason Cunningham works with disadvantaged children (ones that have been expelled from school etc).

He's no longer active but Ricardo Williams Jr used to work as a distributor of cocaine in addition to his boxing career.

I don't know these days but you'd think the overwhelming majority of pro boxers would need a job or income support in addition to boxing.

Maybe if they're single with no kids to support they could get by for a few years but realistically how many are banking what a job would pay? A dozen or so in the country?

Sklar wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 10:45 I don't know these days but you'd think the overwhelming majority of pro boxers would need a job or income support in addition to boxing.

Maybe if they're single with no kids to support they could get by for a few years but realistically how many are banking what a job would pay? A dozen or so in the country?

From fights, very few.

There's boxers fighting for titles for a few grand after deductions. There's been British title fights in the past 12 months where the champion's purse has been less than 12k.

Most so-called full-time pros are only full-time because they have sponsors who effectively pay them a wage. Even then, they are few and far between. Of the 800 or so licensed pros in Britain, it's a safe bet that over 700 of them boost their income with other work.

Only two sorts of boxers make a full time living from the sport active journeymen or ppv fighters

Outside of football not many sportsmen and women make a living from sport.

spudder56 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 11:35 Only two sorts of boxers make a full time living from the sport active journeymen or ppv fighters

I'd disagree that active journeyman make a full time living. Spoke to Johnny greaves a few times and he was always working a full time job.

spudder56 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 11:35 Only two sorts of boxers make a full time living from the sport active journeymen or ppv fighters

That's not correct.

I imagine a lot are bouncers. I met James Oyebola a few times and he was lovely. RIP James.... what a shame

samwbr wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 13:43

spudder56 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 11:35 Only two sorts of boxers make a full time living from the sport active journeymen or ppv fighters

That's not correct.

I Believe it is 100%...

I know people that started out trying to make it as a champion and ended up going down the journeymen route as it paid much better, don’t have to do tickets give the house money etc

Londonirish wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 14:06

samwbr wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 13:43

spudder56 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 11:35 Only two sorts of boxers make a full time living from the sport active journeymen or ppv fighters

That's not correct.

I Believe it is 100%...

I know people that started out trying to make it as a champion and ended up going down the journeymen route as it paid much better, don’t have to do tickets give the house money etc

Ppv fighters in the UK currently like Joshua, Brook, Furys , Groves and Eubank jnr aren't the only full timers.

samwbr wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 14:11

Londonirish wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 14:06

samwbr wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 13:43

That's not correct.

I Believe it is 100%...

I know people that started out trying to make it as a champion and ended up going down the journeymen route as it paid much better, don’t have to do tickets give the house money etc

Ppv fighters in the UK currently like Joshua, Brook, Furys , Groves and Eubank jnr aren't the only full timers.

No one said they are only the full time boxers.
Most if not all journeymen work as well as box. PPV and journeymen are the ONLY ones that will make money out of Boxin.......


We are talking about making a Living from boxing.

Londonirish wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 14:35

samwbr wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 14:11

Londonirish wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 14:06




I Believe it is 100%...

I know people that started out trying to make it as a champion and ended up going down the journeymen route as it paid much better, don’t have to do tickets give the house money etc

Ppv fighters in the UK currently like Joshua, Brook, Furys , Groves and Eubank jnr aren't the only full timers.

No one said they are only the full time boxers.
Most if not all journeymen work as well as box. PPV and journeymen are the ONLY ones that will make money out of Boxin.......


We are talking about making a Living from boxing.

If you are full time you are making a living surely?

samwbr wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 14:49

Londonirish wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 14:35

samwbr wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 14:11

Ppv fighters in the UK currently like Joshua, Brook, Furys , Groves and Eubank jnr aren't the only full timers.

No one said they are only the full time boxers.
Most if not all journeymen work as well as box. PPV and journeymen are the ONLY ones that will make money out of Boxin.......


We are talking about making a Living from boxing.

If you are full time you are making a living surely?

Not necessarily. Could be earning so little that they are on benefits too, could be from a rich family background, still living with ma and pa, could be a student or one of several alternatives reasons to be boxing full time (no other working life) without it being how they make a living.

Splitting hairs a bit

banjo wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 12:10 Outside of football not many sportsmen and women make a living from sport.

Football is full of part timers too.

Few people make all the money in sport.

Chris Algeri was a full time student around the time he fought Pac.
Joe Smith Jr kept his job right up to the Hopkins fight.
Jessica McCaskill works full time including the Taylor fight.
Bernard Hopkins was full time with Golden Egg while fighting.
And if course Manny has a full time job..

Boxers make reasonable money sparring while not in the ring, some Ams supplement their unpaid fighting by sparring.

I know a guy, eight sponsors, ebf. Doesn't do anything except train.

Yusuf Mack is an adult movie star

samwbr wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 13:43

spudder56 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 11:35 Only two sorts of boxers make a full time living from the sport active journeymen or ppv fighters

That's not correct.

I don’t no many of the lads on the circuit are full time journeymen maybe if they are out of work etc but not as a full time job as such

REEVE wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 19:54

samwbr wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 13:43

spudder56 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 11:35 Only two sorts of boxers make a full time living from the sport active journeymen or ppv fighters

That's not correct.

I don’t no many of the lads on the circuit are full time journeymen maybe if they are out of work etc but not as a full time job as such

It does seem that all the journeymen I know also work, however I think it is safe to say that the more active make more from boxing than their other job.

Wasn't Carl Froch doing tiling while he was active?

handsofstone wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 17:11 Yusuf Mack is an adult movie star

Specifically a GAY adult porn star.... bizarrely after having 13 kids from I think 13 women and claiming he was drugged and woke up with a sore anus and $4000 in his pocket

PS I have no idea if he has AIDS or not for all those wondering

banjo wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 21:27 Wasn't Carl Froch doing tiling while he was active?

Possibly lost in translation?
I believe he was into flipping property or buy to let and did a lot of the work himself?