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who would win right now?

Poll currently showing 60/40 in favour of Joshua which is pretty much how I see it.

Joshua stops Wilder for me.

Would be a little easier to gauge that if Wilder had fought Povetkin, Ortiz, or... anybody. But anyways, I'm tempted to pick Joshua. He beat the best heavyweight of the last decade, whereas Wilder beat... Stiverne.

Neither guy has had a career defining win yet.

50/50 fight to me. First big punch landed will win. If it goes late I favor Wilder due to better stamina.

Lackeos wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 14:33 Would be a little easier to gauge that if Wilder had fought Povetkin, Ortiz, or... anybody. But anyways, I'm tempted to pick Joshua. He beat the best heavyweight of the last decade, whereas Wilder beat... Stiverne.

As far as proven at the top it has to be AJ, how anyone can judge Wilder is beyond me, he hasn't done anything yet to prove he belongs in the top 10. Sure he "might" be good enough, but that's speculation.

Badhusker wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 15:00 Neither guy has had a career defining win yet.

Erm I think AJ has

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 18:26

Badhusker wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 15:00 Neither guy has had a career defining win yet.

Erm I think AJ has

I know. What the fuarhk is he talking about? Joshua beats Wilder easily too.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 18:28

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 18:26

Badhusker wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 15:00 Neither guy has had a career defining win yet.

Erm I think AJ has

I know. What the fuarhk is he talking about? Joshua beats Wilder easily too.

I think you're right... He's bigger and stronger and a better boxer and puncher...

They both have tremendous punching power, but there are more facets to punching than just power... Joshua throws better timed counters and more of them... Wilder lost the first 4 rounds to Washington, looking for the perfect counter for his right hand... Joshua throws smoother jabs and sticks them in your body as well as tagging your head...

AJ's combinations have more precision and he blends in double left hooks, uppercuts, and body shots... He never windmills his combos leaving himself open -- and he doesn't throw a wild mishmash of punches like an amateur... Wilder hasn't fought a Heavyweight who can take advantage of his weaknesses yet.

Joshua is clearly a stronger and better skilled boxer. He would win by KO.

Wilder has been very carefully matched, he's avoided several prime-aged decent heavyweights.

While Joshua has faced Takam, Whyte, and Breazeale, and will now fight another prime heavyweight in Parker, Wilder's management has chosen weaker, chinny opponents like Szpilka, and older men like Washington and inactive Stiverne.

Badhusker wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 15:00 Neither guy has had a career defining win yet.

50/50 fight to me. First big punch landed will win. If it goes late I favor Wilder due to better stamina.

Boy, this is a tough one for me, but I'll go out on a limb and pick Wilder by KO.

It's always best to go with the more athletic, multi-dimensional guy in a fight.

I believe that would be Wilder.

And it's certainly not comforting to know that Joshua has that chinny reputation, going back to his amateur days.

That's a pretty big chink in the armor when you're squaring off against a speedy, monster puncher like Wilder.

poll is around 2:1 joshua. could
imagine bookies will see it a bit
more towards AJ.

Its a 50/50 fight but I'm leaning towards Wilder. For one thing, it's been made clear that he's the one who really wants this fight to go through. Joshua hasn't shown as much of an inclination or at least not that I've seen. For another, Anthony was very nearly taken out by a 41 year old Klit who was off for 17 months and had already been exposed by Fury. If Wilder gets Joshua on the canvas I don't think he's letting him off the hook.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 18:28

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 18:26

Badhusker wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 15:00 Neither guy has had a career defining win yet.

Erm I think AJ has

I know. What the fuarhk is he talking about? Joshua beats Wilder easily too.

If your career defining fight is going life and death with a 41yr old that looked like crap his last fight, then was off for a year and a half, it isn't saying much. It was a great fight, but far from career defining. Fury's win could be considered a better win, and both guys looked horrible.

Wilder hasn't had even close to that good of a win, but still favor him to win if it goes late.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑01 Jan 2018, 11:06 Boy, this is a tough one for me, but I'll go out on a limb and pick Wilder by KO.

It's always best to go with the more athletic, multi-dimensional guy in a fight.

I believe that would be Wilder.

And it's certainly not comforting to know that Joshua has that chinny reputation, going back to his amateur days.

That's a pretty big chink in the armor when you're squaring off against a speedy, monster puncher like Wilder

Multi-dimensional doesn't describe Wilder.... He dropped 4 straight rounds to rook Washington... Bryant Jennings easily went 12 with Klitschko and tried to talk a little trash to Ortiz...but Jennings looked scared... Ortiz smirked at him like, "Who do you think you're kidding?" .... Jennings got murdered every second he was in there.. Ortiz may be old, but he has game... I'll be amazed if the fight comes off -- it's not Wilder's style to take risky fights.

Badhusker wrote: ↑01 Jan 2018, 22:15

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 18:28

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 18:26

Erm I think AJ has

I know. What the fuarhk is he talking about? Joshua beats Wilder easily too.

If your career defining fight is going life and death with a 41yr old that looked like crap his last fight, then was off for a year and a half, it isn't saying much. It was a great fight, but far from career defining. Fury's win could be considered a better win, and both guys looked horrible.

Wilder hasn't had even close to that good of a win, but still favor him to win if it goes late.

But it was for the IBF IBO WBA world heavyweight titles, in front of a record breaking post-war crowd of 90,000 people . It broke the record for PPV sales in the UK (more than Floyd Manny did in the UK). I think it was either the first fight, or one of very few, to have the rights purchased by both HBO and Showtime in the US , and shown on the two channels independently.

You have to give Fury more credit for his win. It was in Wlads back yard when Wlad was on his crazy undefeated run. I do however think the version of Wlad that faced AJ was a better Wlad than fought Fury - altho that could be down to the way the fights planned out.
All that to one side id say AJ beating Wlad was a career defining moment for AJ. I’m sure there will be more of them to come, but people will always remember that fight and that win.

Badhusker wrote: ↑01 Jan 2018, 22:15 If your career defining fight is going life and death with a 41yr old that looked like crap his last fight, then was off for a year and a half, it isn't saying much. It was a great fight, but far from career defining. Fury's win could be considered a better win, and both guys looked horrible.

Wilder hasn't had even close to that good of a win, but still favor him to win if it goes late

So... Wilder didn't look horrible getting hit with big roundhouse right swings by inept Johann Duhaupas??? Kind of bunged his left eye up there quite a bit... AJ pulls the trigger on his right a lot faster, smoother, harder, and more accurately and sets it upo with a jab that's 3 X as slick... Wilder has fought nobodies... He's never fought a top pro.

drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑01 Jan 2018, 15:54 Its a 50/50 fight but I'm leaning towards Wilder. For one thing, it's been made clear that he's the one who really wants this fight to go through.

i very, very much doubt that. AJ
has been running a straight career
with more and more challenges
along the way. haven't heard anyone
make that claim for wilder.

talk is one thing, action another. listen
to how wilder talks all the time and look
at his record. the mismatch could not
be any clearer.

The big weight lifting Englishman wins

Joshua has the better resume, but I think Wilder hits harder & is definitely the quicker & more unorthodox of the two.

It's hard to call for me, but I will go with Joshua due to his superior resume.

powers differences are irrelevant imo when they each have so much