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Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 05 Jan 2018, 05:41
by Enlightened-One
The current WBC world minimumweight champion, Wanheng Menayothin (aka Chayaphon Moonsri), who has engaged in nine world title bouts, is currently on course during 2018 to equal or possibly break Floyd Mayweather Jr’s 50-0 record for a world champion fighter to retire with an undefeated record of 50–0.
He’s already matched Rocky Marciano’s legendary 49-0-0 mark, which was a feat he accomplished just over a month ago.
Even though he may technically surpass Money May’s 50-0, it’s important to note that his resume isn’t that impressive, especially if you review the calibre of his last two opponents:
• Tatsuya Fukuhara had only won 7 of his most recent 13 bouts and had even lost a fight immediately preceding facing Wanheng
• Jack Amisa had only won 21 of his 67 fights, having tasted defeat 44 times... with only two wins since 2008 (or two victories in his last 41 bouts)
Thoughts?
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 05 Jan 2018, 05:57
by jamamb
ya his records quality nowhere near floyds, but tbf the historical 50-0 record he might break is mainly quantity isnt it
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 05 Jan 2018, 06:00
by greg
..good for him personally, I for one don't place that much importance on the 0 on the resume..
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 05 Jan 2018, 08:25
by Ruthless-RKO
He needs to fight Knockout CP!
His resume is crap.
I think it's with a lot of Thai boxers, they tend to have fights every month. He'll have 5-6 fights a year, 2 of them being world title defences and the rest against guys who had 3 times more losses than wins.
It's common with a lot of other Thai boxers.
Sor Rungvisai has similar resume. lots of fights, but majority against nobodies.
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 05 Jan 2018, 09:18
by imaioral
Knockout CP Freshmart with 3x less opponents has a much better resume, I really would like to see him vs Wanheng.
In case it doesn't happen, Wanheng losses to Hiroto Kyoguchi.
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 05 Jan 2018, 13:32
by jonnyyorkshu
Thai and filipino fighters fight regularly because they need to, it's a no brainer for them to have soft fights to get paid. Some fighters pad there record and are crap, others pad there records and are very good fighters.
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 02:36
by KiwiRider
It could happen this weekend
TBE!
Haa! Suck it Floyd
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 02:56
by Ruthless-RKO
Menayhothin's resume is crap. He fights nobodies inbetween fights. Like I said before Knockout CP has a better resume with 3x less fights.
Records are records I guess.. Most get to this stage and lose.
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 03:00
by jamamb
pretty much all thais, even the excellent ones, have done the 'bum between serious opponent' thing
menayothins resume is historically nothing, but hes probably top 5 still in his division, a weak division admittedly. though hes been looking extra prone to a loss lately imo.
even if he gets to 51-0 and beyond i doubt he stays with a 100 percent winning rate, and thats ultimately the notable thing. otherwise floyd being 50-0 would be a 'record'. chavez was like 85-0, pep was 62-0, but they lost in the end and hence those marks get not much attention
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 03:37
by higgs88
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/422262 he beat this guy 2 fights ago, ranked number 2 in his country of 12 fighters. TBE
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 02:56
Menayhothin's resume is crap. He fights nobodies inbetween fights. Like I said before Knockout CP has a better resume with 3x less fights.
Records are records I guess.. Most get to this stage and lose.
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 04:12
by asdfjkl
Julio cesar chavez was like 85 in 0 or something wasn't he?
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 04:25
by jamamb
yes and pep 62-0
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 04:28
by Deleted_Scenes
asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:12
Julio cesar chavez was like 85 in 0 or something wasn't he?
87-0
Willie Pep went something like 61 or 62-0 as well, and I'm sure there's a few more I can't remember off the top of my head.
But apparently, if you lose after getting that high, it doesn't count and 50-0 then becomes more impressive... Go figure.
Anyway, it's really about who you beat, not how many you beat. Numbers on their own don't mean a lot.
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 06:19
by Lairdy
Ricardo Lopez holds the record as a champion to retire with the best undefeated record of 51-0-1.
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 10:49
by Abradolf Lincler
Lairdy wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 06:19
Ricardo Lopez holds the record as a champion to retire with the best undefeated record of 51-0-1.
Jimmy Barry 58-0-10
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 22:53
by Lairdy
Abradolf Lincler wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 10:49
Lairdy wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 06:19
Ricardo Lopez holds the record as a champion to retire with the best undefeated record of 51-0-1.
Jimmy Barry 58-0-10
Well there ya are!
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 05:33
by Heretic
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 05:41
The current WBC world minimumweight champion, Wanheng Menayothin (aka Chayaphon Moonsri), who has engaged in nine world title bouts, is currently on course during 2018 to equal or possibly break Floyd Mayweather Jr’s 50-0 record for a world champion fighter to retire with an undefeated record of 50–0.
He’s already matched Rocky Marciano’s legendary 49-0-0 mark, which was a feat he accomplished just over a month ago.
Even though he may technically surpass Money May’s 50-0, it’s important to note that his resume isn’t that impressive, especially if you review the calibre of his last two opponents:
• Tatsuya Fukuhara had only won 7 of his most recent 13 bouts and had even lost a fight immediately preceding facing Wanheng
• Jack Amisa had only won 21 of his 67 fights, having tasted defeat 44 times... with only two wins since 2008 (or two victories in his last 41 bouts)
Thoughts?
Floyd's last opponent was doing hes debut as boxer. Quality doesn't matter here
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 20 Apr 2018, 10:50
by jamamb
theres also this guy tassana sapatan whose 46-0 at only 24, and he shows no signs of fighting anyone tough , and hes not a champ so for now wont have a situation where hes faced with a tough mandatory
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/568482
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 20 Apr 2018, 12:38
by dickbelden
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 14:15
by MetaK
It just goes to show how pointless boxing records are. Even guys like Floyd have at least 10 guys on there who had no business fighting him. Wanheng will probably lose eventually though, and even if he is 100-1 he still will be considered to have failed to break Floyd's record because its only actually a record because it requires you to retire undefeated. Thats not a luxury Thais have.
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 02 May 2018, 05:55
by jamamb
hes now 50-0 bitches
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 02 May 2018, 07:15
by Ruthless-RKO
jamamb wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 05:55
hes now 50-0 bitches
Okay.. Can he fight Knockout CP Freshmart next?
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 02 May 2018, 07:32
by Lennox
It is a very good resume in the scheme of things, hardly any boxers ever defeat 17 top 50 opponents, but it is littered with meaningless interim fights that the Thai's often have. FM in comparison has the best statistical resume in 29 years and probably best ever.
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 02 May 2018, 10:28
by imaioral
Easy work for him today, but his only best/toughest fight still was vs Saul Juarez. I would like to see him vs Knockout CP Freshmart (unless they are partners) to prove who is the man in the category and country or vs Hiroto Kyoguchi in Japan, because in Thailand is easy, he has to do like Wisaksil Wangek and fight in any place for world title or to defend it.
Re: Wanheng Menayothin to break Floyd Mayweather's 50-0 record in 2018?
Posted: 02 May 2018, 10:32
by jamamb
