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Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 07:36
by Ruthless-RKO
Boxers who retired without winning a BBBofC (established 1929) British title

Naseem Hamed

Chris Eubank

Nigel Benn

Frank Bruno

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 07:40
by paddy chavez
before bruno every world class british fighter won the british title first then commonwealth and european .not sure if steve robinson ever won the british title

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 07:45
by banjo
Outright or just in general?

Because Hatton won a vacant belt against Jon Thaxton but never won the belt for keeps(2 defenses is it you have to make?)

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 07:48
by Ruthless-RKO
banjo wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 07:45 Outright or just in general?

Because Hatton won a vacant belt against Jon Thaxton but never won the belt for keeps(2 defenses is it you have to make?)
Just in General.

There are much more names to be mentioned if it outright.

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 07:49
by banjo
David Haye

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 07:54
by Ruthless-RKO
banjo wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 07:49David Haye
Yeh, he won the English title, but after losing to Thompson, he fast tracked to EBU

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 07:55
by Ruthless-RKO
Richie Woodhall

Robin Reid?

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 08:05
by bennie
John Conteh never won a Lonsdale Belt, Barry McGuigan never won a Lonsdale Belt (and selfishly held on to the British title as world champion), Duke McKenzie never won a Belt...

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 08:06
by bigjack
paddy chavez wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 07:40 before bruno every world class british fighter won the british title first then commonwealth and european .not sure if steve robinson ever won the british title
Yes that was the path all prospects used to follow,i used to enjoy all the domestic clashes for the 3 titles,that was when there was 2 world titles available,nowadays it seems it's easier to get a world title fight than a European title.

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 08:25
by Ruthless-RKO
bigjack wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 08:06
paddy chavez wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 07:40 before bruno every world class british fighter won the british title first then commonwealth and european .not sure if steve robinson ever won the british title
Yes that was the path all prospects used to follow,i used to enjoy all the domestic clashes for the 3 titles,that was when there was 2 world titles available,nowadays it seems it's easier to get a world title fight than a European title.
Saunders defended all three vs. Eubank Jr.

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 08:26
by bigjack
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 08:25
bigjack wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 08:06
paddy chavez wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 07:40 before bruno every world class british fighter won the british title first then commonwealth and european .not sure if steve robinson ever won the british title
Yes that was the path all prospects used to follow,i used to enjoy all the domestic clashes for the 3 titles,that was when there was 2 world titles available,nowadays it seems it's easier to get a world title fight than a European title.
Saunders defended all three vs. Eubank Jr.
Yes i know,but sadly it's a rare thing nowadays.

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 08:48
by BitPlayer
paddy chavez wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 07:40 before bruno every world class british fighter won the british title first then commonwealth and european .not sure if steve robinson ever won the british title
Funny now that the commonwealth seems below the British if anything.

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 08:52
by Nightmare Roy
banjo wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 07:45 Outright or just in general?

Because Hatton won a vacant belt against Jon Thaxton but never won the belt for keeps(2 defenses is it you have to make?)
Think it got upped to 3 a few years back

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 08:53
by Ruthless-RKO
BitPlayer wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 08:48
Funny now that the commonwealth seems below the British if anything.
Yep, even though it's more open to champions from different countries

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 08:56
by Horse
BitPlayer wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 08:48Funny now that the commonwealth seems below the British if anything.
They are both at about the level the English title should be.

The BBBofC is being run into the ground.

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 08:59
by tobyh5
bennie wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 08:05 John Conteh never won a Lonsdale Belt, Barry McGuigan never won a Lonsdale Belt (and selfishly held on to the British title as world champion), Duke McKenzie never won a Belt...
Duke won the title twice, fly and feather. He did not keep a belt, but that was not what is being discussed here as was clarified further up ^^

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 09:27
by craigjenkins05
http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/the-10- ... dale-belt/

Just saw this on boxing news do they get their stories from the board? Lol

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 09:28
by Ruthless-RKO
craigjenkins05 wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 09:27 http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/the-10- ... dale-belt/

Just saw this on boxing news do they get their stories from the board? Lol
Likely. WBN and Boxing News Online are decent

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 09:49
by BitPlayer
Horse wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 08:56
BitPlayer wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 08:48Funny now that the commonwealth seems below the British if anything.
They are both at about the level the English title should be.

The BBBofC is being run into the ground.
Yup, and when better boxers pick them up, it's never to defend them

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 10:22
by bennie
tobyh5 wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 08:59
bennie wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 08:05 John Conteh never won a Lonsdale Belt, Barry McGuigan never won a Lonsdale Belt (and selfishly held on to the British title as world champion), Duke McKenzie never won a Belt...
Duke won the title twice, fly and feather. He did not keep a belt, but that was not what is being discussed here as was clarified further up ^^
Oh, I see. Then it would have to be Phil Edwards.

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 12:00
by Londonirish
Joe Calzaghe didn’t win one outright either...

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 18:23
by stujones
Ola Afolabi has to be one of the best to have never fought for it.

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 18:43
by milpool
It's a shame that fighters these days bypass the British, Commonwealth and, in some respects, the EBU, in favour of an International, Intercontinental or some other spurious belt in order to get a ranking from one of the sanctioning bodies.

Being British champion means something, being the IBF International champion means nothing. I'm sure it means something to the fighter but in the wider context of boxing it means nothing.

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 18:57
by Horse
Amir Khan
Ricky Burns

Re: Best British Boxers To Never Win The Lonsdale Belt.

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 20:09
by bripez
milpool wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 18:43 It's a shame that fighters these days bypass the British, Commonwealth and, in some respects, the EBU, in favour of an International, Intercontinental or some other spurious belt in order to get a ranking from one of the sanctioning bodies.

Being British champion means something, being the IBF International champion means nothing. I'm sure it means something to the fighter but in the wider context of boxing it means nothing.
I agree - I wonder if any of the boxers named look back when they have retired and wish they had boxed for the British title rather than strategically going for some inter-continental type title?