Which boxing region is the best?

[dagilechia]

i think there are 7 major boxing regions (of which 4 are more significant than the rest)
1.Eastern Europe/Post-Soviets (countries of the so-called ''eastern bloc'' and past soviet republics)
2.Western Europe
3.USA and Canada (and also some islands like Jamaica, generally English speaking America, does not include Puerto Rico)
4.Latin America (Spanish/Portuguese speaking America, includes Puerto Rico)
5.Asia
6.Africa
7.Oceania

fighters ranked in BoxRec top 100

1.Lomachenko, Golovkin, Usyk, Kovalyov, Briedis, Postol, Povetkin, Gvozdyk, Glowacki, Gassiev, Sulecki, Pulev, Beterbiev
2.Joshua, Frampton, Eubank Jr, Selby, Yafai, Groves, Flanagan, Jack, Saunders, Quigg, Smith, McDonnell, Burnett, Campbell, Bellew, Warrington, Brook
3.Crawford, Thurman, Stevenson, D Garcia, Russell Jr, Spence Jr, Porter, Magdaleno, Jacobs, Easter Jr, Charlos, M Garcia, Peterson, Hurd, Wilder, J Vargas, Andrade, Smith Jr, Davis, Ali, Joseph Diaz, Browne, Broner
4.Canelo, Berchelt, Nery, Santa Cruz, Mares, Ramirez, Machado, Linares, Lara, Gonzalez, Estrada, Barrera, E Alvarez, Roman, Cuadras, Valdez, Vargas, Ortiz, Rigondeaux, Barthelemy, Leroy Estrada, Rey Vargas, Lopez, Corrales, Castellanos, Ceja, Guevara
5.Wisaksil, Pacquiao, Inoue, Nietes, Yamanaka, Niyomtrong, Moonsri, Shiro, Taguchi, Tanaka, Tapales, Higa, Ancajas, Sultan, Iwasa
6.Indongo, Tete, Comney
7.Horn

also in terms of where fighters are really fighting there are 3 most important regions
1.North America (which includes USA, Mexico, Canada)
2.Europe (includes UK, Russia, Germany and the likes of Ukraine, France, Poland, Spain, Italy)
3.Asia (especially Japan, Philippines, Thailand)
some countries like Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan is hard to decide whether they belong to European or Asian scene
there are also Southern American (especially Argentina), Oceanian and African (especially South Africa and Ghana, also Namibia) scenes

so, which boxing scene seems to be the most interesting?

[Taansend]

2.Western Europe

2.Joshua, Frampton, Eubank Jr, Selby, Yafai, Groves, Flanagan, Jack, Saunders, Quigg, Smith, McDonnell, Burnett, Campbell, Bellew, Warrington, Brook

So Western Europe is 16 British fighters & a Swede who hasn't fought in Europe in almost a decade

[dagilechia]

2.Western Europe

2.Joshua, Frampton, Eubank Jr, Selby, Yafai, Groves, Flanagan, Jack, Saunders, Quigg, Smith, McDonnell, Burnett, Campbell, Bellew, Warrington, Brook

So Western Europe is 16 British fighters & a Swede who hasn't fought in Europe in almost a decade

yeah, it's surprising but no German or French fighter is ranked in BoxRec top 100, UK completely dominated West Euro scene, some years ago German scene was about as important as British, now the German scene is closer to the likes of France or Poland than UK or Russia

if we combine both west and east euro scenes, then it actually makes it international enough and competetive with north american scene which includes such powers as USA and Mexico and also Canada

[dagilechia]

i also wonder how would look like the history of boxing if boxers from communist states fought in pro boxing
these fighters (among others) could be Klitschkos, Golovkins, Kovalevs, Usyks, Lomachenkos of the past:

Laszlo Papp - 1948, 1952 and 1956 olympics gold medalist, 2x euro gold medalist

Zbigniew Pietrzykowski - 1960 olympics silver medalist (in final his fight vs Cassius Clay was competetive imo), 1956 and 1964 olympics bronze medalist, 4x champion of europe, 1x bronze medalist of euro championships

Jerzy Kulej - 1964 and 1968 olympics gold medalist, 2x gold and 1x silver medalist of european championship. his record was 317-6-25

Ivaylo Marinov - 1980 olympics bronze medalist, 1988 olympics gold medalist, 1x wolrd gold medalist, europe 4x gold and 1x silver medalist

Viktor Savchenko - 1976 olympics bronze medalist, 1980 olympics silver medalist, 1x world gold medalist, europe's 1x gold and 2x silver medalist

Boris Lagutin - 1960 olympics bronze medalist, 1964 and 1968 olympics gold medalist, 2x gold medalist of euro championships

Simion Cutov - 1976 olympics silver medalist, 1x world silver medalist, 2x European gold medalist

Danas Pozniakas - 1968 olympics gold medalist, europe 3x gold and 1x silver medalist

Oleg Grigoryev - 1960 olympics gold medalist, 3x gold and 1x silver medalist of europe

Jozef Grudzien - 1964 olympics gold medalist, 1968 olympics silver medalist, 1x gold and 1x silver medalist at euro championship

Gyorgy Gedo - 1972 olympics gold medalist, 2x gold and 1x bronze medalist at euro championship

Marian Kasprzyk - 1960 olympics bronze and 1964 olympics gold medalist, europe's bronze medalist

saying that, of course USA is the Mecca of Boxing

[Enlightened-One]

Stats updated in a later post in this thread.

[dagilechia]

There are currently 36 world titleholders (incl. WBA regular) from the following geographical regions:

• Asia: 10
• Eastern Europe: 7
• Latin America: 7
• Western Europe: 5
• USA/Canada: 5
• Oceana: 1
• Africa: 1

If anyone feels compelled to verify the above, here’s a detailed list of the fighters and their countries of residence that I used to formulate these aggregated stats:

• Adonis Stevenson (USA/Canada)
• Alberto Machado (Latin America)
• Angel Acosta (Latin America)
• Anthony Joshua (Western Europe)
• Artur Beterbiev (Eastern Europe)
• Billy Joe Saunders (Western Europe)
• Brian Carlos Castano (Latin America)
• Daniel Roman (USA/Canada)
• Dmitry Bivol (Eastern Europe)
• Gennady Golovkin (Asia)
• Hiroto Kyoguchi (Asia)
• Jamie McDonnell (Western Europe)
• Jarrett Hurd (USA/Canada)
• Jessie Magdaleno (Latin America)
• Joseph Parker (Oceana)
• Ken Shiro (Asia)
• Kenichi Ogawa (Asia)
• Manuel Charr (Western Europe)
• Miguel Berchelt (Latin America)
• Murat Gassiev (Eastern Europe)
• Olexander Usyk (Eastern Europe)
• Rey Vargas (Latin America)
• Ryan Burnett (Western Europe)
• Ryoichi Taguchi (Asia)
• Ryosuke Iwasa (Asia)
• Ryota Murata (Asia)
• Ryuya Yamanaka (Asia)
• Sadam Ali (USA/Canada)
• Sergei Lipinets (Eastern Europe)
• Sergey Kovalev (Eastern Europe)
• Terence Crawford (USA/Canada)
• Thammanoon Niyomtrong (Asia)
• Vasyl Lomachenko (Eastern Europe)
• Wanheng Menayothin (Asia)
• Yunier Dorticos (Latin America)
• Zolani Tete (Africa)

Is Kazakhstan in Asia or Europe (as part of its land falls between both regions)? It doesn't seem clear to me, but most of the things I've read states that it's generally considered to be within Asia.

if we count Europe as one (no west/east split) then it should be counted as Asia, if not then it should be counted as past of Eastern Euro (or as some call it Post-Soviet) region, at least it's my opinion

geographically about 97% of it is Asia i think, just a small part is in Europe

[Ruthless-RKO]

Where has the OP listed Parker?

[Enlightened-One]

I’ve updated my aggregated table using the data supplied by the “World Boxing News” website, which has resulted in 70 world titleholders, including both the IBO & WBA regular belts:

• Asia: 17
• Latin America: 14
• USA/Canada: 13
• Western Europe: 10
• Eastern Europe: 9
• Africa: 5
• Oceana: 2

If anyone feels compelled to verify the above, here’s a detailed list of the fighters and their geographical regions that I used to formulate these aggregated stats:

• Abner Mares (Latin America)
• Adonis Stevenson (USA/Canada)
• Alberto Machado (Latin America)
• Aleksandr Usyk (Eastern Europe)
• Angel Acosta (Latin America)
• Anthony Joshua (Western Europe)
• Artur Beterbiev (Eastern Europe)
• Billy Joe Saunders (Western Europe)
• Brian Castano (Latin America)
• Caleb Truax (USA/Canada)
• Chris Eubank Jr. (Western Europe)
• Daigo Higa (Asia)
• Danny Roman (USA/Canada)
• David Benavidez (USA/Canada)
• Denis Lebedev (Eastern Europe)
• Deontay Wilder (USA/Canada)
• Dmitry Bivol (Eastern Europe)
• Donnie Nietes (Asia)
• Emmanuel Tagoe (Africa)
• Erislandy Lara (Latin America)
• Errol Spence Jr. (USA/Canada)
• Gary Russell Jr (USA/Canada)
• Gennady Golovkin (Asia)
• George Groves (Western Europe)
• Gideon Buthelezi (Africa)
• Gilberto Ramirez (Latin America)
• Hiroto Kyoguchi (Asia)
• Jamie McDonnell (Western Europe)
• Jarrett Hurd (USA/Canada)
• Jeff Horn (Oceana)
• Jermell Charlo (USA/Canada)
• Jerwin Ancajas (Asia)
• Jessie Magdaleno (Latin America)
• Jorge Linares (Latin America)
• Joseph Parker (Oceana)
• Kal Yafai (Western Europe)
• Keith Thurman (USA/Canada)
• Ken Shiro (Asia)
• Kenichi Ogawa (Asia)
• Kevin Lerena (Africa)
• Knockout CP Freshmart (Asia)
• Lee Selby (Western Europe)
• Leo Santa Cruz (Latin America)
• Luis Nery (Latin America)
• Mairis Briedis (Eastern Europe)
• Manuel Charr (Western Europe)
• Miguel Berchelt (Latin America)
• Mikey Garcia (USA/Canada)
• Murat Gassiev (Eastern Europe)
• Naoya Inoue (Asia)
• Oscar Valdez (Latin America)
• Rey Vargas (Latin America)
• Robert Easter Jr. (USA/Canada)
• Ryan Burnett (Western Europe)
• Ryoichi Taguchi (Asia)
• Ryosuke Iwasa (Asia)
• Ryota Murata (Asia)
• Ryuya Yamanaka (Asia)
• Sadam Ali (USA/Canada)
• Sergey Kovalev (Eastern Europe)
• Sergey Lipinets (Asia)
• Shavkat Rakhimov (Eastern Europe)
• Sho Kimura (Asia)
• Simphiwe Khonco (Africa)
• Srisaket Sor Rungvisai (Asia)
• Tyron Zeuge (Western Europe)
• Vasyl Lomachenko (Eastern Europe)
• Wanheng Menayothin (Asia)
• Yunier Dorticos (Latin America)
• Zolani Tete (Africa)

Here are the equivalent stats aggregated by Country rather than geographical region:

• USA: 13
• Japan: 10
• Great Britain: 8
• Russia: 7
• Mexico: 5
• South Africa: 4
• Thailand: 3
• Mexico/USA: 2
• Puerto Rico: 2
• Ukraine: 2
• Philippines: 2
• Canada: 1
• Argentina: 1
• Ghana: 1
• Cuba/USA: 1
• Kazakhstan: 1
• Australia: 1
• Venezuela: 1
• New Zealand: 1
• Latvia: 1
• Lebanon/Germany: 1
• Germany: 1
• Cuba: 1

[dagilechia]

Where has the OP listed Parker?

Parker is not ranked in boxrec top 100, he is ranked 145

[Ruthless-RKO]

Where has the OP listed Parker?

Parker is not ranked in boxrec top 100, he is ranked 145

[dagilechia]

Parker being ranked 145 shows what kind of champions HW had (and still have) recently
for comparision
129.Abdukakhorov
130.Mikhalkin
133.Zeuge
135.Breahmer
137.Truax
141.Huck
142.Salido
144.Tabiti
147.Vlasov
150.Chudinov

[Enlightened-One]

so, which boxing scene seems to be the most interesting?

The British boxing scene is the most interesting, because it has a similar amount of world champions than other countries that have been traditionally successful in the sport, whilst also having less than half their populations (i.e. USA, Japan, Russia and Mexico).

If the only barometer to gauge the term “success” referred exclusively to world titleholders, then Asia should be considered the “best” region.

I suspect that the sport is commercially more successful (i.e. popular to mainstream casuals, resulting in significant revenue generation) in the USA, the UK and Germany.

[gilgamesh]

The U.K. scene is about as Red Hot now as I've ever seen it, and has become a real great region for Boxing. Eastern Europeans have obviously been doing fantastic of late as well.

Latin America has always been a force in Boxing. The U.S.'s impact on the sport is definitely dwindling, but there's still a lot of very great American fighters going right now.

As a fan the place I'd want to be to enjoy the action the most right now is the U.K.

[dagilechia]

i have made a rank of countries based on their top 20 boxrec fighters and their boxrec points combined (as it was 23 september 2017) and i found it now so ill post it

1. 8095 United States 992 629 505 474 460 458 452 435 411 397 394 393 299 286 273 269 265 248 233 222
2. 6979 Mexico 997 645 633 587 504 419 323 315 297 294 260 229 208 207 206 193 180 168 165 149
3. 6294 United Kingdom 705 549 407 374 353 336 331 330 303 294 293 271 248 235 230 227 225 218 187 178
4. 3835 Japan 464 375 314 278 252 220 208 156 150 147 145 134 132 131 131 123 121 119 118 117
5. 3494 Philippines 583 408 256 252 220 214 186 172 148 144 119 97 95 94 90 89 87 82 79 79
6. 3384 Russia 409 315 215 215 193 189 160 154 153 149 140 138 135 129 126 125 123 113 106 97
7. 3198 Ukraine 793 556 384 279 199 90 89 84 79 76 72 68 67 66 60 56 46 45 45 44
8. 2542 Thailand 769 338 299 107 107 90 89 80 68 66 66 64 55 55 54 50 49 48 45 43
9. 2236 Australia 640 125 113 108 106 106 92 85 81 80 78 75 72 71 71 70 68 67 64 64
10. 2073 South Africa 230 159 142 136 131 108 107 107 106 105 100 93 84 82 74 69 66 58 58 58
11. 2067 Canada 582 218 210 111 82 76 72 65 65 64 62 61 53 52 52 50 50 49 48 45
12. 2044 Argentina 266 179 135 134 125 123 117 102 93 89 86 72 70 68 68 66 65 64 61 61
13. 2026 Germany 172 166 161 147 135 123 120 97 96 95 92 85 80 78 76 71 69 57 54 52
14. 1976 Cuba 421 313 306 257 112 86 78 76 56 51 31 29 25 23 23 21 20 17 16 15
15. 1900 Puerto Rico 312 146 146 131 114 113 98 86 86 82 81 73 70 59 58 55 48 48 47 47
16. 1886 France 139 124 121 114 107 101 100 99 99 94 92 92 83 81 78 77 74 72 71 68
17. 1761 Poland 253 184 181 117 107 89 82 81 78 70 70 69 65 64 46 45 44 42 37 37
18. 1694 Kazakhstan 868 125 118 60 59 45 45 45 41 34 33 33 30 29 28 26 25 21 15 14
19. 1660 Dominicana 173 163 155 152 140 106 99 98 69 61 61 49 49 48 48 41 39 38 37 34
20. 1418 Venezuela 365 147 96 77 65 63 61 57 57 53 52 52 41 39 37 35 32 32 30 27
21. 1409 Nicaragua 313 161 104 87 73 71 61 58 57 49 47 46 39 37 37 35 34 34 33 33
22. 1331 Panama 381 232 114 62 47 46 45 42 39 38 37 35 29 29 29 27 26 25 25 23
23. 1289 Colombia 305 159 88 85 84 67 60 45 44 40 38 37 36 35 32 29 28 26 26 25
24. 1208 Spain 113 96 92 91 86 69 66 55 54 53 52 49 49 48 45 43 40 40 34 33
25. 1072 Ghana 204 132 127 122 60 59 37 34 33 31 29 26 25 25 23 21 21 21 21 21
26. 1028 Namibia 306 104 79 68 67 52 49 37 34 30 29 24 23 23 19 19 17 17 16 15
27. 1001 Italy 86 66 61 59 56 54 50 49 47 47 46 45 44 43 43 43 42 42 39 39

[Enlightened-One]

i have made a rank of countries based on their top 20 boxrec fighters and their boxrec points combined (as it was 23 september 2017) and i found it now so ill post it

1. 8095 United States 992 629 505 474 460 458 452 435 411 397 394 393 299 286 273 269 265 248 233 222
2. 6979 Mexico 997 645 633 587 504 419 323 315 297 294 260 229 208 207 206 193 180 168 165 149
3. 6294 United Kingdom 705 549 407 374 353 336 331 330 303 294 293 271 248 235 230 227 225 218 187 178
4. 3835 Japan 464 375 314 278 252 220 208 156 150 147 145 134 132 131 131 123 121 119 118 117
5. 3494 Philippines 583 408 256 252 220 214 186 172 148 144 119 97 95 94 90 89 87 82 79 79
6. 3384 Russia 409 315 215 215 193 189 160 154 153 149 140 138 135 129 126 125 123 113 106 97
7. 3198 Ukraine 793 556 384 279 199 90 89 84 79 76 72 68 67 66 60 56 46 45 45 44
8. 2542 Thailand 769 338 299 107 107 90 89 80 68 66 66 64 55 55 54 50 49 48 45 43
9. 2236 Australia 640 125 113 108 106 106 92 85 81 80 78 75 72 71 71 70 68 67 64 64
10. 2073 South Africa 230 159 142 136 131 108 107 107 106 105 100 93 84 82 74 69 66 58 58 58
11. 2067 Canada 582 218 210 111 82 76 72 65 65 64 62 61 53 52 52 50 50 49 48 45
12. 2044 Argentina 266 179 135 134 125 123 117 102 93 89 86 72 70 68 68 66 65 64 61 61
13. 2026 Germany 172 166 161 147 135 123 120 97 96 95 92 85 80 78 76 71 69 57 54 52
14. 1976 Cuba 421 313 306 257 112 86 78 76 56 51 31 29 25 23 23 21 20 17 16 15
15. 1900 Puerto Rico 312 146 146 131 114 113 98 86 86 82 81 73 70 59 58 55 48 48 47 47
16. 1886 France 139 124 121 114 107 101 100 99 99 94 92 92 83 81 78 77 74 72 71 68
17. 1761 Poland 253 184 181 117 107 89 82 81 78 70 70 69 65 64 46 45 44 42 37 37
18. 1694 Kazakhstan 868 125 118 60 59 45 45 45 41 34 33 33 30 29 28 26 25 21 15 14
19. 1660 Dominicana 173 163 155 152 140 106 99 98 69 61 61 49 49 48 48 41 39 38 37 34
20. 1418 Venezuela 365 147 96 77 65 63 61 57 57 53 52 52 41 39 37 35 32 32 30 27
21. 1409 Nicaragua 313 161 104 87 73 71 61 58 57 49 47 46 39 37 37 35 34 34 33 33
22. 1331 Panama 381 232 114 62 47 46 45 42 39 38 37 35 29 29 29 27 26 25 25 23
23. 1289 Colombia 305 159 88 85 84 67 60 45 44 40 38 37 36 35 32 29 28 26 26 25
24. 1208 Spain 113 96 92 91 86 69 66 55 54 53 52 49 49 48 45 43 40 40 34 33
25. 1072 Ghana 204 132 127 122 60 59 37 34 33 31 29 26 25 25 23 21 21 21 21 21
26. 1028 Namibia 306 104 79 68 67 52 49 37 34 30 29 24 23 23 19 19 17 17 16 15
27. 1001 Italy 86 66 61 59 56 54 50 49 47 47 46 45 44 43 43 43 42 42 39 39

Explain why the Philippines are so high? Has their stats been distorted due to Manny Pacquiao?

[dagilechia]

i have made a rank of countries based on their top 20 boxrec fighters and their boxrec points combined (as it was 23 september 2017) and i found it now so ill post it

1. 8095 United States 992 629 505 474 460 458 452 435 411 397 394 393 299 286 273 269 265 248 233 222
2. 6979 Mexico 997 645 633 587 504 419 323 315 297 294 260 229 208 207 206 193 180 168 165 149
3. 6294 United Kingdom 705 549 407 374 353 336 331 330 303 294 293 271 248 235 230 227 225 218 187 178
4. 3835 Japan 464 375 314 278 252 220 208 156 150 147 145 134 132 131 131 123 121 119 118 117
5. 3494 Philippines 583 408 256 252 220 214 186 172 148 144 119 97 95 94 90 89 87 82 79 79
6. 3384 Russia 409 315 215 215 193 189 160 154 153 149 140 138 135 129 126 125 123 113 106 97
7. 3198 Ukraine 793 556 384 279 199 90 89 84 79 76 72 68 67 66 60 56 46 45 45 44
8. 2542 Thailand 769 338 299 107 107 90 89 80 68 66 66 64 55 55 54 50 49 48 45 43
9. 2236 Australia 640 125 113 108 106 106 92 85 81 80 78 75 72 71 71 70 68 67 64 64
10. 2073 South Africa 230 159 142 136 131 108 107 107 106 105 100 93 84 82 74 69 66 58 58 58
11. 2067 Canada 582 218 210 111 82 76 72 65 65 64 62 61 53 52 52 50 50 49 48 45
12. 2044 Argentina 266 179 135 134 125 123 117 102 93 89 86 72 70 68 68 66 65 64 61 61
13. 2026 Germany 172 166 161 147 135 123 120 97 96 95 92 85 80 78 76 71 69 57 54 52
14. 1976 Cuba 421 313 306 257 112 86 78 76 56 51 31 29 25 23 23 21 20 17 16 15
15. 1900 Puerto Rico 312 146 146 131 114 113 98 86 86 82 81 73 70 59 58 55 48 48 47 47
16. 1886 France 139 124 121 114 107 101 100 99 99 94 92 92 83 81 78 77 74 72 71 68
17. 1761 Poland 253 184 181 117 107 89 82 81 78 70 70 69 65 64 46 45 44 42 37 37
18. 1694 Kazakhstan 868 125 118 60 59 45 45 45 41 34 33 33 30 29 28 26 25 21 15 14
19. 1660 Dominicana 173 163 155 152 140 106 99 98 69 61 61 49 49 48 48 41 39 38 37 34
20. 1418 Venezuela 365 147 96 77 65 63 61 57 57 53 52 52 41 39 37 35 32 32 30 27
21. 1409 Nicaragua 313 161 104 87 73 71 61 58 57 49 47 46 39 37 37 35 34 34 33 33
22. 1331 Panama 381 232 114 62 47 46 45 42 39 38 37 35 29 29 29 27 26 25 25 23
23. 1289 Colombia 305 159 88 85 84 67 60 45 44 40 38 37 36 35 32 29 28 26 26 25
24. 1208 Spain 113 96 92 91 86 69 66 55 54 53 52 49 49 48 45 43 40 40 34 33
25. 1072 Ghana 204 132 127 122 60 59 37 34 33 31 29 26 25 25 23 21 21 21 21 21
26. 1028 Namibia 306 104 79 68 67 52 49 37 34 30 29 24 23 23 19 19 17 17 16 15
27. 1001 Italy 86 66 61 59 56 54 50 49 47 47 46 45 44 43 43 43 42 42 39 39

Explain why the Philippines are so high? Has their stats been distorted due to Manny Pacquiao?

these numbers on the right side are what amount of points had their top 20 fighters (from #1 to #20) number 1 was Pacquiao with 583 points later are the likes of Nietes, Tapales, Ancajas, Sultan, Donaire and so on, and these 20 Filipino fighters combined have 3494 points. Philipino rank was not so distorted due to Pacquiao, as you can see, more distorted were Canada due to Stevenson, Thailand due to Wisaksil, Kazakhstan by Golovkin (if not him Kazakhstan would be unranked, i ranked only countries that had at least 1000 points in total, Golovkin made 868 out of 1694 Kazakhstan's points) Venezuela by Linares, Nicaragua by R Gonzalez Colombia by E Alvarez or Namibia by Indongo, and of course, Australia due to Horn

this ranking i made 23 september 2017, i bet now we could see some changes

[Enlightened-One]

i have made a rank of countries based on their top 20 boxrec fighters and their boxrec points combined (as it was 23 september 2017) and i found it now so ill post it

1. 8095 United States 992 629 505 474 460 458 452 435 411 397 394 393 299 286 273 269 265 248 233 222
2. 6979 Mexico 997 645 633 587 504 419 323 315 297 294 260 229 208 207 206 193 180 168 165 149
3. 6294 United Kingdom 705 549 407 374 353 336 331 330 303 294 293 271 248 235 230 227 225 218 187 178
4. 3835 Japan 464 375 314 278 252 220 208 156 150 147 145 134 132 131 131 123 121 119 118 117
5. 3494 Philippines 583 408 256 252 220 214 186 172 148 144 119 97 95 94 90 89 87 82 79 79
6. 3384 Russia 409 315 215 215 193 189 160 154 153 149 140 138 135 129 126 125 123 113 106 97
7. 3198 Ukraine 793 556 384 279 199 90 89 84 79 76 72 68 67 66 60 56 46 45 45 44
8. 2542 Thailand 769 338 299 107 107 90 89 80 68 66 66 64 55 55 54 50 49 48 45 43
9. 2236 Australia 640 125 113 108 106 106 92 85 81 80 78 75 72 71 71 70 68 67 64 64
10. 2073 South Africa 230 159 142 136 131 108 107 107 106 105 100 93 84 82 74 69 66 58 58 58
11. 2067 Canada 582 218 210 111 82 76 72 65 65 64 62 61 53 52 52 50 50 49 48 45
12. 2044 Argentina 266 179 135 134 125 123 117 102 93 89 86 72 70 68 68 66 65 64 61 61
13. 2026 Germany 172 166 161 147 135 123 120 97 96 95 92 85 80 78 76 71 69 57 54 52
14. 1976 Cuba 421 313 306 257 112 86 78 76 56 51 31 29 25 23 23 21 20 17 16 15
15. 1900 Puerto Rico 312 146 146 131 114 113 98 86 86 82 81 73 70 59 58 55 48 48 47 47
16. 1886 France 139 124 121 114 107 101 100 99 99 94 92 92 83 81 78 77 74 72 71 68
17. 1761 Poland 253 184 181 117 107 89 82 81 78 70 70 69 65 64 46 45 44 42 37 37
18. 1694 Kazakhstan 868 125 118 60 59 45 45 45 41 34 33 33 30 29 28 26 25 21 15 14
19. 1660 Dominicana 173 163 155 152 140 106 99 98 69 61 61 49 49 48 48 41 39 38 37 34
20. 1418 Venezuela 365 147 96 77 65 63 61 57 57 53 52 52 41 39 37 35 32 32 30 27
21. 1409 Nicaragua 313 161 104 87 73 71 61 58 57 49 47 46 39 37 37 35 34 34 33 33
22. 1331 Panama 381 232 114 62 47 46 45 42 39 38 37 35 29 29 29 27 26 25 25 23
23. 1289 Colombia 305 159 88 85 84 67 60 45 44 40 38 37 36 35 32 29 28 26 26 25
24. 1208 Spain 113 96 92 91 86 69 66 55 54 53 52 49 49 48 45 43 40 40 34 33
25. 1072 Ghana 204 132 127 122 60 59 37 34 33 31 29 26 25 25 23 21 21 21 21 21
26. 1028 Namibia 306 104 79 68 67 52 49 37 34 30 29 24 23 23 19 19 17 17 16 15
27. 1001 Italy 86 66 61 59 56 54 50 49 47 47 46 45 44 43 43 43 42 42 39 39

Explain why the Philippines are so high? Has their stats been distorted due to Manny Pacquiao?

these numbers on the right side are what amount of points had their top 20 fighters (from #1 to #20) number 1 was Pacquiao with 583 points later are the likes of Nietes, Tapales, Ancajas, Sultan, Donaire and so on, and these 20 Filipino fighters combined have 3494 points. Philipino rank was not so distorted due to Pacquiao, as you can see, more distorted were Canada due to Stevenson, Thailand due to Wisaksil, Kazakhstan by Golovkin (if not him Kazakhstan would be unranked, i ranked only countries that had at least 1000 points in total, Golovkin made 868 out of 1694 Kazakhstan's points) Venezuela by Linares, Nicaragua by R Gonzalez Colombia by E Alvarez or Namibia by Indongo, and of course, Australia due to Horn

this ranking i made 23 september 2017, i bet now we could see some changes

Your numbers don't reflect reality though, because the Philippines shouldn't be rated above Russia, who have seven world champions.

In the context of your measuring the "best" countries, I doubt that BoxRec is an appropriate tool, because it rates Jeff Horn as a top-ten pound-for-pounder, which is clearly incorrect.

[Boxing Writer]

i also wonder how would look like the history of boxing if boxers from communist states fought in pro boxing
these fighters (among others) could be Klitschkos, Golovkins, Kovalevs, Usyks, Lomachenkos of the past:

Laszlo Papp - 1948, 1952 and 1956 olympics gold medalist, 2x euro gold medalist

Zbigniew Pietrzykowski - 1960 olympics silver medalist (in final his fight vs Cassius Clay was competetive imo), 1956 and 1964 olympics bronze medalist, 4x champion of europe, 1x bronze medalist of euro championships

Jerzy Kulej - 1964 and 1968 olympics gold medalist, 2x gold and 1x silver medalist of european championship

Ivaylo Marinov - 1980 olympics bronze medalist, 1988 olympics gold medalist, 1x wolrd gold medalist, europe 4x gold and 1x silver medalist

Viktor Savchenko - 1976 olympics bronze medalist, 1980 olympics silver medalist, 1x world gold medalist, europe's 1x gold and 2x silver medalist

Boris Lagutin - 1960 olympics bronze medalist, 1964 and 1968 olympics gold medalist, 2x gold medalist of euro championships

Simion Cutov - 1976 olympics silver medalist, 1x world silver medalist, 2x European gold medalist

Danas Pozniakas - 1968 olympics gold medalist, europe 3x gold and 1x silver medalist

Oleg Grigoryev - 1960 olympics gold medalist, 3x gold and 1x silver medalist of europe

Jozef Grudzien - 1964 olympics gold medalist, 1968 olympics silver medalist, 1x gold and 1x silver medalist at euro championship

Gyorgy Gedo - 1972 olympics gold medalist, 2x gold and 1x bronze medalist at euro championship

Marian Kasprzyk - 1960 olympics bronze and 1964 olympics gold medalist, europe's bronze medalist

saying that, of course USA is the Mecca of Boxing

Laslo Papp could have been a 'Lomachenko of XX century" had he turned pro 7-8 years earlier.. He was a great, great fighter

[dagilechia]

Explain why the Philippines are so high? Has their stats been distorted due to Manny Pacquiao?

these numbers on the right side are what amount of points had their top 20 fighters (from #1 to #20) number 1 was Pacquiao with 583 points later are the likes of Nietes, Tapales, Ancajas, Sultan, Donaire and so on, and these 20 Filipino fighters combined have 3494 points. Philipino rank was not so distorted due to Pacquiao, as you can see, more distorted were Canada due to Stevenson, Thailand due to Wisaksil, Kazakhstan by Golovkin (if not him Kazakhstan would be unranked, i ranked only countries that had at least 1000 points in total, Golovkin made 868 out of 1694 Kazakhstan's points) Venezuela by Linares, Nicaragua by R Gonzalez Colombia by E Alvarez or Namibia by Indongo, and of course, Australia due to Horn

this ranking i made 23 september 2017, i bet now we could see some changes

Your numbers don't reflect reality though, because the Philippines shouldn't be rated above Russia, who have seven world champions.

In the context of your measuring the "best" countries, I doubt that BoxRec is an appropriate tool, because it rates Jeff Horn as a top-ten pound-for-pounder, which is clearly incorrect.

of course i agree, but i used boxrec because it's easy to make any ranking based on it

it is not possible to make non-subjective ranking but how boxrec sees it was interesting for me

[dagilechia]

i also wonder how would look like the history of boxing if boxers from communist states fought in pro boxing
these fighters (among others) could be Klitschkos, Golovkins, Kovalevs, Usyks, Lomachenkos of the past:

Laszlo Papp - 1948, 1952 and 1956 olympics gold medalist, 2x euro gold medalist

Zbigniew Pietrzykowski - 1960 olympics silver medalist (in final his fight vs Cassius Clay was competetive imo), 1956 and 1964 olympics bronze medalist, 4x champion of europe, 1x bronze medalist of euro championships

Jerzy Kulej - 1964 and 1968 olympics gold medalist, 2x gold and 1x silver medalist of european championship

Ivaylo Marinov - 1980 olympics bronze medalist, 1988 olympics gold medalist, 1x wolrd gold medalist, europe 4x gold and 1x silver medalist

Viktor Savchenko - 1976 olympics bronze medalist, 1980 olympics silver medalist, 1x world gold medalist, europe's 1x gold and 2x silver medalist

Boris Lagutin - 1960 olympics bronze medalist, 1964 and 1968 olympics gold medalist, 2x gold medalist of euro championships

Simion Cutov - 1976 olympics silver medalist, 1x world silver medalist, 2x European gold medalist

Danas Pozniakas - 1968 olympics gold medalist, europe 3x gold and 1x silver medalist

Oleg Grigoryev - 1960 olympics gold medalist, 3x gold and 1x silver medalist of europe

Jozef Grudzien - 1964 olympics gold medalist, 1968 olympics silver medalist, 1x gold and 1x silver medalist at euro championship

Gyorgy Gedo - 1972 olympics gold medalist, 2x gold and 1x bronze medalist at euro championship

Marian Kasprzyk - 1960 olympics bronze and 1964 olympics gold medalist, europe's bronze medalist

saying that, of course USA is the Mecca of Boxing

Laslo Papp could have been a 'Lomachenko of XX century" had he turned pro 7-8 years earlier.. He was a great, great fighter

totally agree. from the list i posted above i am 100% sure that Laszlo Papp and Jerzy Kulej could become Hall of Famers, they were just great. Papp is one of the most well-known amateur boxers ever i think. they could be like Lomachenko and Pacquiao of their times

[Boxing Prospect]

I'm a big follower of the Asian scene and I'd suggest that Japan and the UK are the two best scenes right now.

The Japanese scene has a golden age right now following a change in their domestic amateur scene (the high school championships have helped through a new generation) with their lack of domestic televised fights being the big draw back. They have a solid number of televised fights but other than the G+ shows most are either tape delayed or world title bout. Boxingraise and Asign have done well in filling the gaps but still not enough live stuff.

The UK goes the opposite way, a lot of live action but hiding it behind a high pay wall freezes out fans who want to see the top names. In Japan top fighters get multi-million viewing audiences as opposed to much reduced number on Sky Sports and BT. The fact the media in the UK seems unsure whether it should support or hate boxing is also interesting, though swaying positively in recent years.

[boxing_rocks]

i have made a rank of countries based on their top 20 boxrec fighters and their boxrec points combined (as it was 23 september 2017) and i found it now so ill post it

1. 8095 United States 992 629 505 474 460 458 452 435 411 397 394 393 299 286 273 269 265 248 233 222
2. 6979 Mexico 997 645 633 587 504 419 323 315 297 294 260 229 208 207 206 193 180 168 165 149
3. 6294 United Kingdom 705 549 407 374 353 336 331 330 303 294 293 271 248 235 230 227 225 218 187 178
4. 3835 Japan 464 375 314 278 252 220 208 156 150 147 145 134 132 131 131 123 121 119 118 117
5. 3494 Philippines 583 408 256 252 220 214 186 172 148 144 119 97 95 94 90 89 87 82 79 79
6. 3384 Russia 409 315 215 215 193 189 160 154 153 149 140 138 135 129 126 125 123 113 106 97
7. 3198 Ukraine 793 556 384 279 199 90 89 84 79 76 72 68 67 66 60 56 46 45 45 44
8. 2542 Thailand 769 338 299 107 107 90 89 80 68 66 66 64 55 55 54 50 49 48 45 43
9. 2236 Australia 640 125 113 108 106 106 92 85 81 80 78 75 72 71 71 70 68 67 64 64
10. 2073 South Africa 230 159 142 136 131 108 107 107 106 105 100 93 84 82 74 69 66 58 58 58
11. 2067 Canada 582 218 210 111 82 76 72 65 65 64 62 61 53 52 52 50 50 49 48 45
12. 2044 Argentina 266 179 135 134 125 123 117 102 93 89 86 72 70 68 68 66 65 64 61 61
13. 2026 Germany 172 166 161 147 135 123 120 97 96 95 92 85 80 78 76 71 69 57 54 52
14. 1976 Cuba 421 313 306 257 112 86 78 76 56 51 31 29 25 23 23 21 20 17 16 15
15. 1900 Puerto Rico 312 146 146 131 114 113 98 86 86 82 81 73 70 59 58 55 48 48 47 47
16. 1886 France 139 124 121 114 107 101 100 99 99 94 92 92 83 81 78 77 74 72 71 68
17. 1761 Poland 253 184 181 117 107 89 82 81 78 70 70 69 65 64 46 45 44 42 37 37
18. 1694 Kazakhstan 868 125 118 60 59 45 45 45 41 34 33 33 30 29 28 26 25 21 15 14
19. 1660 Dominicana 173 163 155 152 140 106 99 98 69 61 61 49 49 48 48 41 39 38 37 34
20. 1418 Venezuela 365 147 96 77 65 63 61 57 57 53 52 52 41 39 37 35 32 32 30 27
21. 1409 Nicaragua 313 161 104 87 73 71 61 58 57 49 47 46 39 37 37 35 34 34 33 33
22. 1331 Panama 381 232 114 62 47 46 45 42 39 38 37 35 29 29 29 27 26 25 25 23
23. 1289 Colombia 305 159 88 85 84 67 60 45 44 40 38 37 36 35 32 29 28 26 26 25
24. 1208 Spain 113 96 92 91 86 69 66 55 54 53 52 49 49 48 45 43 40 40 34 33
25. 1072 Ghana 204 132 127 122 60 59 37 34 33 31 29 26 25 25 23 21 21 21 21 21
26. 1028 Namibia 306 104 79 68 67 52 49 37 34 30 29 24 23 23 19 19 17 17 16 15
27. 1001 Italy 86 66 61 59 56 54 50 49 47 47 46 45 44 43 43 43 42 42 39 39

Wow, so much wasted time !

[dagilechia]

i have made a rank of countries based on their top 20 boxrec fighters and their boxrec points combined (as it was 23 september 2017) and i found it now so ill post it

1. 8095 United States 992 629 505 474 460 458 452 435 411 397 394 393 299 286 273 269 265 248 233 222
2. 6979 Mexico 997 645 633 587 504 419 323 315 297 294 260 229 208 207 206 193 180 168 165 149
3. 6294 United Kingdom 705 549 407 374 353 336 331 330 303 294 293 271 248 235 230 227 225 218 187 178
4. 3835 Japan 464 375 314 278 252 220 208 156 150 147 145 134 132 131 131 123 121 119 118 117
5. 3494 Philippines 583 408 256 252 220 214 186 172 148 144 119 97 95 94 90 89 87 82 79 79
6. 3384 Russia 409 315 215 215 193 189 160 154 153 149 140 138 135 129 126 125 123 113 106 97
7. 3198 Ukraine 793 556 384 279 199 90 89 84 79 76 72 68 67 66 60 56 46 45 45 44
8. 2542 Thailand 769 338 299 107 107 90 89 80 68 66 66 64 55 55 54 50 49 48 45 43
9. 2236 Australia 640 125 113 108 106 106 92 85 81 80 78 75 72 71 71 70 68 67 64 64
10. 2073 South Africa 230 159 142 136 131 108 107 107 106 105 100 93 84 82 74 69 66 58 58 58
11. 2067 Canada 582 218 210 111 82 76 72 65 65 64 62 61 53 52 52 50 50 49 48 45
12. 2044 Argentina 266 179 135 134 125 123 117 102 93 89 86 72 70 68 68 66 65 64 61 61
13. 2026 Germany 172 166 161 147 135 123 120 97 96 95 92 85 80 78 76 71 69 57 54 52
14. 1976 Cuba 421 313 306 257 112 86 78 76 56 51 31 29 25 23 23 21 20 17 16 15
15. 1900 Puerto Rico 312 146 146 131 114 113 98 86 86 82 81 73 70 59 58 55 48 48 47 47
16. 1886 France 139 124 121 114 107 101 100 99 99 94 92 92 83 81 78 77 74 72 71 68
17. 1761 Poland 253 184 181 117 107 89 82 81 78 70 70 69 65 64 46 45 44 42 37 37
18. 1694 Kazakhstan 868 125 118 60 59 45 45 45 41 34 33 33 30 29 28 26 25 21 15 14
19. 1660 Dominicana 173 163 155 152 140 106 99 98 69 61 61 49 49 48 48 41 39 38 37 34
20. 1418 Venezuela 365 147 96 77 65 63 61 57 57 53 52 52 41 39 37 35 32 32 30 27
21. 1409 Nicaragua 313 161 104 87 73 71 61 58 57 49 47 46 39 37 37 35 34 34 33 33
22. 1331 Panama 381 232 114 62 47 46 45 42 39 38 37 35 29 29 29 27 26 25 25 23
23. 1289 Colombia 305 159 88 85 84 67 60 45 44 40 38 37 36 35 32 29 28 26 26 25
24. 1208 Spain 113 96 92 91 86 69 66 55 54 53 52 49 49 48 45 43 40 40 34 33
25. 1072 Ghana 204 132 127 122 60 59 37 34 33 31 29 26 25 25 23 21 21 21 21 21
26. 1028 Namibia 306 104 79 68 67 52 49 37 34 30 29 24 23 23 19 19 17 17 16 15
27. 1001 Italy 86 66 61 59 56 54 50 49 47 47 46 45 44 43 43 43 42 42 39 39

Wow, so much wasted time !

like 1 hour or so

[USMCer]

Take a look at this thread for reference...

The GOATs of Boxing by State, Region, Country - http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=213934

So, from more of a historic look...

The Americas
North America (Canada to the Caribbean)
Eurasia (Iceland to Indonesia)
U.S.
Europe
Latinoamerica
Asia
Western Europe (Findland, Germany, Austria and west)
U.S.-Northeast region (Penn and northeast)
U.S.-South region (Oklahoma to Maryland south)
Mexico
U.K.
Far East Asia (East & Southeast Asia)
Caribbean
U.S.-Midwest region (Kanas to Ohio and north)
New York
Southeast Asia (Myanmar to Indonesia)
U.S.-West region
East Asia (China, Mongolia, Japan, N & S Korea)
Italy
Pennsylvainia
Mexico-Centro region
South America
Puerto Rico
Japan
Eastern Europe (Slovania, Czech and east to the Urals & Caucasus)
California
Central America (Belize to Panama)
Cuba
Panama
Philippines
New York City
Distrito Federal (aka Mexico City)
Africa
Thialand
Mexico-Noreste region
Argentina
Canada

[BitPlayer]

Well western Europe, specifically the UK, lead the world in paper champions. The Soviet countries are awesome if you like like guys with skill and power, who look great going up, but fail as soon as they're up against it. American is the place to be for guys with all the ability, who's careers get derailed by the buffet. And East Asia is the best for tiny guys that make up for their lack of defender by punching chuck out of each other in till they are shot.