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Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 13:35
by Ruthless-RKO
Spence has been ordered to make his mandatory title defense against unbeaten, but virtually unknown, up-and-comer Carlos Ocampo.

Errol Spence Jr., who defended his welterweight title Saturday night against Lamont Peterson, has his sights set on a unification showdown with Keith Thurman later this year.
Spence has been ordered to make his mandatory title defense against unbeaten, but virtually unknown, up-and-comer Carlos Ocampo.

Spence did not have long to savor the resounding victory. After spending most of his postfight news conference talking about his desire for a major fight and to unify titles against Thurman later in the year -- a nod to Thurman's desire for an April tuneup after being out of action for a year because of elbow surgery -- Spence was ordered on Monday to fight Ocampo next.

The International Boxing Federation sent Spence a letter, via promoter Tom Brown's TGB Promotions, ordering the bout. The letter pointed out that Spence's fight with Peterson was an exception to a mandatory defense that was approved with the condition that the winner of Saturday's fight must next face the leading available contender.

With the No. 1 and No. 2 positions in the IBF welterweight rankings vacant (because no elimination bout had taken place to fill either slot), No. 3 Ocampo is the leading available contender and, thus, Spence was ordered to fight him next.

The IBF ordered Brown and Ocampo promoter Zanfer Promotions to begin negotiations immediately. If the sides do not make a deal by Feb. 22, a purse bid will be ordered to determine promotional control of the bout.

In the event of a purse bid, Spence would be entitled to 85 percent of the winning bid, and Ocampo would get the remaining 15 percent, a smaller figure than had he fought an eliminator to become No. 1 or No. 2.

Ocampo (22-0, 13 KOs), of Mexico, has yet to face any top opponents, but many consider him an excellent prospect. His most notable victory came in November 2015 when he outpointed onetime prospect Jorge Paez Jr.

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 13:40
by Boxerbeetle
Not sure I’ve ever seen Ocampo box tbh.

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 13:56
by CaptainSpacerod
In this day and age when thanks to the internet everybody knows who’s a legitimate world title challenger and who’s just a run of the mill fighter only getting a title shot via political shenanigans why do world champions put up with the bullshit rules of the sanctioning bodies.

I’m not specifically referring to this fight as tbh i’ve never heard of ocampo but so many world title fights involve guys nowhere near world level - liam smith vs jimmy kelly is a particularly pitiful example -that the moniker “world champion” means fvck all anymore.

Why don’t top fighters and promoters just ignore all these alphabet organizations and just make fights without paying big sanctioning fees to to these fraudsters.

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 15:17
by Zubrei
The IBF have a valid point. The others let the belt holders get away with all kinds of rubbish, if you are savvy and take the IBF route the champion has to face you. I actually like what the IBF do.

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 15:20
by KiwiRider
Zubrei wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 15:17 The IBF have a valid point. The others let the belt holders get away with all kinds of rubbish, if you are savvy and take the IBF route the champion has to face you. I actually like what the IBF do.
:TU: while they aren't always consistent they are miles better than some other belt makers.

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 17:19
by Ruthless-RKO
KiwiRider wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 15:20
Zubrei wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 15:17 The IBF have a valid point. The others let the belt holders get away with all kinds of rubbish, if you are savvy and take the IBF route the champion has to face you. I actually like what the IBF do.
:TU: while they aren't always consistent they are miles better than some other belt makers.
The only downside is they don't rank good fighters..

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 17:27
by handsofstone
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 17:19
KiwiRider wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 15:20
Zubrei wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 15:17 The IBF have a valid point. The others let the belt holders get away with all kinds of rubbish, if you are savvy and take the IBF route the champion has to face you. I actually like what the IBF do.
:TU: while they aren't always consistent they are miles better than some other belt makers.
The only downside is they don't rank good fighters..
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Yeah and its a bit of a merry go round in some divisions

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 17:59
by Stuarty
Never beaten anyone of any note and has never fought outside of Mexico. I haven't seen the guy box but on paper it should be a straight forward win for Spence. Some of the rankings from these governing bodies leave me fuckin befuddled!

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 08:58
by jamamb
funny that some ppl thumbs up the ibf in this thread. maybe. but to me they smell just as the other abcs. at best maybe a lttle less bad. see there top 15 fghters at 147. imo only peterson was legit top 10 and lower top 10 at that. compare there rates to boxrecs which to me are superior.

and yes as hos mentoned they re use ppl over and over. though to be fair theres no wba joe fourner level of bad here :lol:

1. NOT RATED
2. NOT RATED
3. Carlos Ocampo (26)
4. Konstantin Ponomarev (17)
5. Lamont Peterson (9)
6. Bradley Skeete (23)
7. Qudratillo Abduqaxorov (10)
8. Keita Obara (33...absolutely destroyed a few matches ago by troyanovsy at 140)
9. Mohamed Mimoune (rated at 140)
10. Rashidi Ellis (59)
11. Ray Robinson (53)
12. Zhankhozh Turarov (60)
13. Carlos Molina (41)
14. Yordenis Ugas (25)
15. Laszlo Toth (40)

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 10:42
by Oiky
Spence will tear through him, obviously

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 11:53
by Ezzard
Don't know the guy but it looks like another pointless welterweight fight.

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 10:28
by milpool
jamamb wrote: 24 Jan 2018, 08:58

1. NOT RATED
2. NOT RATED
3. Carlos Ocampo (26)
4. Konstantin Ponomarev (17)
5. Lamont Peterson (9)
6. Bradley Skeete (23)
7. Qudratillo Abduqaxorov (10)
8. Keita Obara (33...absolutely destroyed a few matches ago by troyanovsy at 140)
9. Mohamed Mimoune (rated at 140)
10. Rashidi Ellis (59)
11. Ray Robinson (53)
12. Zhankhozh Turarov (60)
13. Carlos Molina (41)
14. Yordenis Ugas (25)
15. Laszlo Toth (40)
That's actually a shocking top 'fifteen'...shocking!

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 13:30
by Ruthless-RKO
https://www.badlefthook.com/2018/2/24/1 ... ry-defense

With the two sides thus far unable to make a deal, a purse bid has been ordered by the IBF

From Dan
The representatives for welterweight world titlist Errol Spence Jr. and mandatory challenger Carlos Ocampo weren't able to make a deal by the IBF’s deadline so Thursday the sanctioning body scheduled a purse bid for March 6 at noon ET at the IBF offices in Springfield, New Jersey. Spence (23-0, 20 KOs), represented by promoter Tom Brown, is entitled to 85 percent of the winning bid and Mexico’s Ocampo (22-0, 13 KOs), promoted by Zanfer Promotions, would 15 percent. Spence (23-0, 20 KOs), 27, is scheduled to headline a Showtime card June 16 in his hometown of Dallas with Mexico’s Ocampo (22-0, 13 KOs) the supposed opponent as long as they either make a deal (which they could still do before the auction) or Spence’s camp wins the purse bid.

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 08:05
by jamamb
is 85-15 a rather steep split or do the other titles have around that too

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 09:22
by Ruthless-RKO
jamamb wrote: 26 Feb 2018, 08:05 is 85-15 a rather steep split or do the other titles have around that too
That's just the IBF that have it quite low. Usually it's 75-25..

WBO have the split at 70-30 I think.

IBF were always good to Wlad. He requested the split be 85-15 vs. Thompson, they agreed..
He also requested he get 80-20 for Pulev. Again they agreed.

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 14:17
by tobyh5
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 13:35 Spence has been ordered to make his mandatory title defense against unbeaten, but virtually unknown, up-and-comer Carlos Ocampo.

Errol Spence Jr., who defended his welterweight title Saturday night against Lamont Peterson, has his sights set on a unification showdown with Keith Thurman later this year.
Spence has been ordered to make his mandatory title defense against unbeaten, but virtually unknown, up-and-comer Carlos Ocampo.

Spence did not have long to savor the resounding victory. After spending most of his postfight news conference talking about his desire for a major fight and to unify titles against Thurman later in the year -- a nod to Thurman's desire for an April tuneup after being out of action for a year because of elbow surgery -- Spence was ordered on Monday to fight Ocampo next.

The International Boxing Federation sent Spence a letter, via promoter Tom Brown's TGB Promotions, ordering the bout. The letter pointed out that Spence's fight with Peterson was an exception to a mandatory defense that was approved with the condition that the winner of Saturday's fight must next face the leading available contender.

With the No. 1 and No. 2 positions in the IBF welterweight rankings vacant (because no elimination bout had taken place to fill either slot), No. 3 Ocampo is the leading available contender and, thus, Spence was ordered to fight him next.

The IBF ordered Brown and Ocampo promoter Zanfer Promotions to begin negotiations immediately. If the sides do not make a deal by Feb. 22, a purse bid will be ordered to determine promotional control of the bout.

In the event of a purse bid, Spence would be entitled to 85 percent of the winning bid, and Ocampo would get the remaining 15 percent, a smaller figure than had he fought an eliminator to become No. 1 or No. 2.

Ocampo (22-0, 13 KOs), of Mexico, has yet to face any top opponents, but many consider him an excellent prospect. His most notable victory came in November 2015 when he outpointed onetime prospect Jorge Paez Jr.
Mate changing some words in the first paragraph does not make it unique work. This was written by Dan Rafael on the ESPN site, why not just post a link?!

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 14:35
by rab
Stuarty wrote: 23 Jan 2018, 17:59 Never beaten anyone of any note and has never fought outside of Mexico. I haven't seen the guy box but on paper it should be a straight forward win for Spence. Some of the rankings from these governing bodies leave me fuckin befuddled!
from the little i have seen on you tube when i had a look due to this fight being mentioned, i don't think it would be too hard a night for spence.

Re: Errol Spence Jr. Ordered by IBF to Fight Mandatory Carlos Ocampo

Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 14:56
by tobyh5
IBF 147lb mandatories are a joke. Who was it Brook fought? Jo Jo Dan and Kevin Bizier?

That class has been stacked with names in recent years, and these are the guys they think most deserving of a chance at the title? :doh: :lol: