The CBS Sports Spectacular
Dallas Memorial Auditorium-December.14.1979
(Too Tall Jones 4th professional fight)
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 15:06
by Caractacus
I think I may have seen some of that Fightin' style somewhere elese before.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 18:08
by BitPlayer
Wow he was awful.
Gift of a stoppage to boot.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 18:16
by Counter-puncher
Caractacus wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 15:06
I think I may have seen some of that Fightin' style somewhere elese before.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 18:48
by Caractacus
What If ?-Too Tall Jones vrs Gerry Cooney in January 1980 on the CBS Sports Spectacular-who would win ?
How much would Too Talls sheer size and weight and agressiveness be a problem for Cooney ?
what if Archie Moore had joined his camp right after the Wallace fight, would Too Tall have become "50 %" better in 30 days?
(Cooney would have come into the fight with a record of 22-0, 17 by KO)
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 19:15
by Caractacus
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 19:28
by Controversial
Caractacus wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 18:48
what if Archie Moore had joined his camp right after the Wallace fight, would Too Tall have become "50 %" better in 30 days?
The thing is any novice would be improved in 30 days with a decent trainer; that doesn’t mean they would be any good, just better than they were. I can’t play golf at all but I’m sure I’d been 200% better after 30 days of proper coaching from a golf pro, I would still be crap though.
Even then boxers improved technique often goes out the window when they are in a real fight, the going gets tough or they get hit. Jones found his level very early and quit before he got knocked out, his ego was too big for that to happen.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 19:35
by Caractacus
I don't know about you but I think I would have rather faced Too Tall Jones in the ring rather then
Dallas Cowboys Defensive Tacke, Randy "The Manster" White .
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 04:13
by BitPlayer
Caractacus wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 18:48
What If ?-Too Tall Jones vrs Gerry Cooney in January 1980 on the CBS Sports Spectacular-who would win ?
How much would Too Talls sheer size and weight and agressiveness be a problem for Cooney ?
what if Archie Moore had joined his camp right after the Wallace fight, would Too Tall have become "50 %" better in 30 days?
(Cooney would have come into the fight with a record of 22-0, 17 by KO)
I think Cooney would still just be way way too good for him.
1st round KO for Cooney.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 10:16
by Tony1244
Too Tall wouldn't have come close to beating Prater, much less Cooney.
Jim Wallace was way way worse than Prater.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
looks like Prater was spitting out some teeth there in the slo-mo at about 5:28 of the clip.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 15:54
by Caractacus
Gerry Cooney in action just a month before Too Tall Jones vrs Jimmy Wallace took place.(November 1979)
( also whoever guy was on the canvas who fight Lee Canalito before that fight was obviously "flattened".
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 20:02
by Caractacus
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 20:44
by SenorPipino
Please.
Cooney was never a terrific fighter, but he was a legit fighter who could punch a ton with his left.
In 1980 he had been a pro for 3 years and would stop both Lyle and Young.
Yes, both fighters were well faded, but they both would have handled 2 month pro Jones with little problem.
Cooney vs Jones in January 1980 would have been a farce. Novice Meneses had Jones out on his feet 2 months earlier.
Cooney would have starched Jones within a minute.
But Wolff was smart enough to have never considered an opponent like Cooney for Jones.
There's a reason Jones' opposition was very weak.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 17:10
by Caractacus
what about a Too Tall Jones vrs Lee Canalito fight in 1980 insteadthen ?
I think that would have been a real interesting match-up.
(Lee Canalito 6 ft 5" 250 lbs approx.)
Lee Canalito had previously fought on CBS Sports Spectacualr on the prelimiary to
the Spinks Bros. fighting.
Lee Canalito was sort of inactive tho,he took 19 months out of his career
to star in Slyvester Stallone's movie PARADISE ALLEY in 1978,
and after his fight on the preliminary to Cooney vrs Dino Denis,he was in-active for 20 months
for some reason.
here he is almost exactly 7 years later ( at age 33 y)in November 1986( with only a ring record of 19 bouts)
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 18:22
by Counter-puncher
Caractacus wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 19:35
I don't know about you but I think I would have rather faced Too Tall Jones in the ring rather then
Dallas Cowboys Defensive Tacke, Randy "The Manster" White .
Great video
That dude is how old? He's fvcking terrifying. He'll be scary when he's 80. Beast.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 19:26
by Tony1244
Caractacus wrote: ↑26 Jan 2018, 17:10
what about a Too Tall Jones vrs Lee Canalito fight in 1980 insteadthen ?
I think that would have been a real interesting match-up.
(Lee Canalito 6 ft 5" 250 lbs approx.)
Lee Canalito had previously fought on CBS Sports Spectacualr on the prelimiary to
the Spinks Bros. fighting.
Lee Canalito was sort of inactive tho,he took 19 months out of his career
to star in Slyvester Stallone's movie PARADISE ALLEY in 1978,
and after his fight on the preliminary to Cooney vrs Dino Denis,he was in-active for 20 months
for some reason.
here he is almost exactly 7 years later ( at age 33 y)in November 1986( with only a ring record of 19 bouts)
Boxrec has a very different record for Ramsey than this telecast. Shows how you can have a great record 19(17)-0 like Canailto and not be that good. I'm saying that as someone who remembers Lee fondly coming up and I'm a fan and own the cult movie Paradise Alley that Canailio was in.
I think Too Tall would have been no match for Canalito. I think Too Tall would have had his hands full with Ramsey.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 18:07
by Caractacus
Too Tall Jones vrs Andre the Giant-Who wins ? ( with 4 oz gloves).
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 22 Feb 2018, 13:23
by wouter
This video really belongs on the 1st page of the forum.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 22 Feb 2018, 13:44
by keithmoonhangover
Caractacus wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 18:07
Too Tall Jones vrs Andre the Giant-Who wins ? ( with 4 oz gloves).
I bet Larry Holmes was sh1tting himself watching this.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 22 Feb 2018, 15:33
by SenorPipino
To this day, wrestling insiders insist that Andre vs Monsoon was unscripted and on the level.
Re: Too Tall Jones vrs "Jumbo" Jim Wallace (Dec.1979)
Posted: 22 Feb 2018, 15:41
by SenorPipino
Was that Jersey Joe Walcott as the referee?
I wonder how he was able to keep control without Nat Fleischer there to guide him.
