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Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 20:03
by TheLeprechaun
I've heard this said on forums quite a few times.

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 21:35
by Stuarty
Has to be up there. Ricky Burns has a cracking chin as did Froch and Joe Calzaghe. Del Boy Chisora can take a dig. Wayne McCullough and Eamonn Magee deserve a mention as well. Two hard feckers!

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 00:00
by Deserter
Yep McCullough sprang to mind immediately. The likes of Hamed and Morales couldn't put a dent in him.

Other obvious one for me is Henry Wharton - Mickey can elaborate, but I can't recall anyone, including Benn and Eubank, even making him blink with their bombs. In fact, should have mentioned Wharton in the Cult Heroes thread as used to love watching him!

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 00:12
by gilgamesh
Though he was stopped 6 times (4 in the first round when you can be caught cold even if you're very tough, Emile Griffith for instance was caught cold by Rubin Carter, the other was a 3rd round KO, and the last was a corner retirement)

I think you'd have to consider Ted Kid Lewis. Only 6 KO losses out of 238 fights is nothing to take lightly.

One of those KO losses came against Georges Carpentier who outweighed him by over 20 pounds.

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 00:30
by Deserter
And of course can't forget Joe Bugner - we all know the big men can seriously bang so he clearly had one hell of a chin.

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 02:42
by jamesmcdonnell
Oliver McCall is my shout. Insane ability to take a punch. Took bombs from Lewis with no discernible reaction.

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 03:26
by Verdi
James Toney imo.

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 03:36
by bigjack
Verdi wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 03:26 James Toney imo.
He's not British,or Oliver McCall.

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 04:30
by Boxerbeetle
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 02:42 Oliver McCall is my shout. Insane ability to take a punch. Took bombs from Lewis with no discernible reaction.
Other than crying his eyes out :lol:

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 07:38
by stujones
Bugner and McCullough would have to be up there.

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 07:48
by big lennox
Carl Froch, Steve Collins, Clinton Woods and Joe Calzaghe all had fantastic chins too.

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 08:14
by boxingknockout
Deserter wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 00:30 And of course can't forget Joe Bugner - we all know the big men can seriously bang so he clearly had one hell of a chin.
He had a decent but not best ever chin. He got kod in one round on his debut though he was wrong. He was also quite a defensive fighter so didn’t catch that many shots

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 08:16
by boxingknockout
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 02:42 Oliver McCall is my shout. Insane ability to take a punch. Took bombs from Lewis with no discernible reaction.
You do realise Oliver McCall is not British? The title is a bit inexact but I assumed in meant British boxer rather than ‘boxed in britain’. Otherwise Ali would be close

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 08:17
by jamamb
how do we define chin. like, are recovery abilities a part? because i wouldnt say that joe cal was that hard to hurt if you landed , at least at a 'great' level. he stood out for being hurt one minute and fine the next,

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 08:38
by Deserter
boxingknockout wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:14
Deserter wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 00:30 And of course can't forget Joe Bugner - we all know the big men can seriously bang so he clearly had one hell of a chin.
He had a decent but not best ever chin. He got kod in one round on his debut though he was wrong. He was also quite a defensive fighter so didn’t catch that many shots
Merely decent is a bit harsh fella - took enough shots from .a prime Frazier and his vaunted left hook without buckling. Went the distance with Lyle as well.

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 08:41
by boxingknockout
Deserter wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:38
boxingknockout wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:14
Deserter wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 00:30 And of course can't forget Joe Bugner - we all know the big men can seriously bang so he clearly had one hell of a chin.
He had a decent but not best ever chin. He got kod in one round on his debut though he was wrong. He was also quite a defensive fighter so didn’t catch that many shots
Merely decent is a bit harsh fella - took enough shots from .a prime Frazier and his vaunted left hook without buckling. Went the distance with Lyle as well.
He did get Kod 4 times though, by Welch, Bruno, Shavers (ok! 😂) and one Paul Brown.

It’s a style thing as well. It’s like saying Herol Graham had a good chin cos he only got kod by big punchers

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 08:44
by boxingknockout
Eubank was put over a few times, but never looked genuinely ‘hurt’ with wobbly legs and unaware.

I can’t think of a better U.K. chin than Eubank.... he also took serious hard flush blows from the lies of Nigel Benn and still was compos mentis

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 08:50
by Deserter
boxingknockout wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:41
Deserter wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:38
boxingknockout wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:14

He had a decent but not best ever chin. He got kod in one round on his debut though he was wrong. He was also quite a defensive fighter so didn’t catch that many shots
Merely decent is a bit harsh fella - took enough shots from .a prime Frazier and his vaunted left hook without buckling. Went the distance with Lyle as well.
He did get Kod 4 times though, by Welch, Bruno, Shavers (ok! 😂) and one Paul Brown.

It’s a style thing as well. It’s like saying Herol Graham had a good chin cos he only got kod by big punchers
Mate, dropping in the likes of Welch and Bruno is even harsher given it was at least 10 years past his prime - plenty of fighters with great chins lost late in their careers or in comebacks.
Accept the defensive style point though, there's validity in factoring that in. Graham is stretching the comparison though :TU:

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 09:43
by jamesmcdonnell
boxingknockout wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:16
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 02:42 Oliver McCall is my shout. Insane ability to take a punch. Took bombs from Lewis with no discernible reaction.
You do realise Oliver McCall is not British? The title is a bit inexact but I assumed in meant British boxer rather than ‘boxed in britain’. Otherwise Ali would be close

I realised that after I posted, missed the british bit.

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 09:51
by boxingknockout
Deserter wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:50
boxingknockout wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:41
Deserter wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:38
Merely decent is a bit harsh fella - took enough shots from .a prime Frazier and his vaunted left hook without buckling. Went the distance with Lyle as well.
He did get Kod 4 times though, by Welch, Bruno, Shavers (ok! 😂) and one Paul Brown.

It’s a style thing as well. It’s like saying Herol Graham had a good chin cos he only got kod by big punchers
Mate, dropping in the likes of Welch and Bruno is even harsher given it was at least 10 years past his prime - plenty of fighters with great chins lost late in their careers or in comebacks.
Accept the defensive style point though, there's validity in factoring that in. Graham is stretching the comparison though :TU:
Yes maybe! Hahahahaha But when considering the best, I think Bugner lies behind the top 10. Some names I like:

McCullough
Wharton
Eubank
Joe Calzaghe
Froch

On a journeyman level Miguel Matthews and the Smith twins (RIP) were solid as a rock

Eubank Snr has to be my number 1. His head even looks impregnable. Can’t remember his legs ever ‘going’

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 10:21
by mickey1975
Wharton shipped some crazy punishment, was dropped once by Nardiello when caught square on by a back hand. Wasn't hurt. Journeyman Paul Bonson had one of the best I've seen. Insane.

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 11:06
by Jackson328
boxingknockout wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 09:51
Deserter wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:50
boxingknockout wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:41

He did get Kod 4 times though, by Welch, Bruno, Shavers (ok! 😂) and one Paul Brown.

It’s a style thing as well. It’s like saying Herol Graham had a good chin cos he only got kod by big punchers
Mate, dropping in the likes of Welch and Bruno is even harsher given it was at least 10 years past his prime - plenty of fighters with great chins lost late in their careers or in comebacks.
Accept the defensive style point though, there's validity in factoring that in. Graham is stretching the comparison though :TU:
Yes maybe! Hahahahaha But when considering the best, I think Bugner lies behind the top 10. Some names I like:

McCullough
Wharton
Eubank
Joe Calzaghe
Froch

On a journeyman level Miguel Matthews and the Smith twins (RIP) were solid as a rock

Eubank Snr has to be my number 1. His head even looks impregnable. Can’t remember his legs ever ‘going’
I think the only time Eubanks legs might have trembled slightly was when Michael Watson had him down late in their rematch, just before Eubank dropped him with the uppercut, but his chin was insanely good. Froch is also up there, took a lot of straight right hands from Groves in their first bout. Always felt Wharton was unlucky not to win a world title, took Benn and Eubanks best shots and I honestly thought he'd have enough to beat Robin Reid.

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 11:13
by littlepug
mickey1975 wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 10:21 Wharton shipped some crazy punishment, was dropped once by Nardiello when caught square on by a back hand. Wasn't hurt. Journeyman Paul Bonson had one of the best I've seen. Insane.
Didnt know about Wharton getting dropped will have to check it out on youtube

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 11:23
by Counter-puncher
Jackson328 wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 11:06
boxingknockout wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 09:51
Deserter wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 08:50
Mate, dropping in the likes of Welch and Bruno is even harsher given it was at least 10 years past his prime - plenty of fighters with great chins lost late in their careers or in comebacks.
Accept the defensive style point though, there's validity in factoring that in. Graham is stretching the comparison though :TU:
Yes maybe! Hahahahaha But when considering the best, I think Bugner lies behind the top 10. Some names I like:

McCullough
Wharton
Eubank
Joe Calzaghe
Froch

On a journeyman level Miguel Matthews and the Smith twins (RIP) were solid as a rock

Eubank Snr has to be my number 1. His head even looks impregnable. Can’t remember his legs ever ‘going’
I think the only time Eubanks legs might have trembled slightly was when Michael Watson had him down late in their rematch,
that was pure exhaustion in my opinion, the actual punches watson 'put him down' with were pretty innocuous, glancing and not heavy shots- Watson himself was really fatigued by that point and Eubank was simply wilting from the pace

Re: Is it generally accepted that Eubank Sr. had the best chin in British Boxing history?

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 11:30
by MightyWarrior
Yes hard to look past Chris Eubank & Wayne too.

Yet even though he got dropped loads, because he usually leapt in chin up & got clocked clean by some huge punchers, no one came close to ever knocking out Naz - he always bounced up ready to knock the other guy out...ATG Barrera didn’t even try to knock him out - Great chin had Naz