Parker's chin ?

[ValMar]

I was absolutely convinced last year that Parker had no chance against Joshua. Right now, I can see some slim chances for Parker, because of his granite chin. I know that some members of this forum would claim that his chin has not been tested yet, but there is a possibility (slim, very slim) that Parker outpoint Joshua, if he is able to endure Joshua's bombs.
What do you think about his chin, and his chances to avoid to be hurt against Joshua ?

[gilgamesh]

We're about to find out

[greg]

..I didn't quite follow Parker's career, my question being who exactly has he been hit by to claim granite chin?

[gilgamesh]

..I didn't quite follow Parker's career, my question being who exactly has he been hit by to claim granite chin?

Nobody. He hasn't even been hit by anybody to claim "Good chin" really. That's why I say we're about to find out. Because he's facing the biggest puncher, and best fighter he's ever faced by an overwhelming margin in his next bout.

[jamamb]

he was hurt by a journeyman. marcelo nascmento. obvious that many havent seen the fight. hes fought no serous puncher ether.

aj punches hard enough to stop good chinned opponents anyway when they are open as joe. johnsons durable and aj melted him

honestly joe imo lost to andy and fury and those guys arent even among the best 10 for me. hes regressed snce carlos and has nothng to trouble aj aside from maybe a bt of hand speed whch wll probably mostly be offset by aj beng much longer and technalyl correct

[ValMar]

..I didn't quite follow Parker's career, my question being who exactly has he been hit by to claim granite chin?

Nobody. He hasn't even been hit by anybody to claim "Good chin" really. That's why I say we're about to find out. Because he's facing the biggest puncher, and best fighter he's ever faced by an overwhelming margin in his next bout.

....Because of that, I opened this post....
I had been watching 7 or 8 Parkeer's fights, unfortunately all on YouTube, except H. Fury fight. I think he got home decision against Ruiz. But it is obvious, that he was never (as I know) hurt, and it is pretty seldom case for HW elite boxers.
I notice that he is often half-open. Is this his flaw or the trap for his opponents ?

[gilgamesh]

He wasn't good enough to trap fatass Ruiz, he won't be good enough to trap Joshua.

[ValMar]

He wasn't good enough to trap fatass Ruiz, he won't be good enough to trap Joshua.

I think that you are right, but I hope you are wrong.
.....As an old-fashioned boxing fan, I like to see a lot of competitive HW fights.....

[gilgamesh]

He wasn't good enough to trap fatass Ruiz, he won't be good enough to trap Joshua.

I think that you are right, but I hope you are wrong.
.....As an old-fashioned boxing fan, I like to see a lot of competitive HW fights.....

I'd rather see a competitive fight than a blowout myself, I just don't think I'm gonna with this particular matchup. In Boxing though you almost never know for sure until the bell rings.

[ValMar]

He wasn't good enough to trap fatass Ruiz, he won't be good enough to trap Joshua.

I think that you are right, but I hope you are wrong.
.....As an old-fashioned boxing fan, I like to see a lot of competitive HW fights.....

I'd rather see a competitive fight than a blowout myself, I just don't think I'm gonna with this particular matchup. In Boxing though you almost never know for sure though until the bell rings.

I agree.......

[SenorPipino]

I don't think the chances of Parker winning a decision are too good..

We will assume that Parker has a very good chin. Supposedly he's never been down in the pros, amateurs or in sparring.

But these stories are often impossible to verify, and myths are created to prop a fighters credibility.

But in all likelihood Parker's chin is solid even if it might not be impenetrable.

He hadn't been in there with any monster punchers. Or even guys that I would label big punchers.

So Parker obviously hasn't had his chin tested to any real degree.

Joshua will test that chin.

If it's Chuvaloesque, that means that Parker will take a lengthy, extended beating but remain standing.

It doesn't mean that he'll hear the final bell. The referee may eventually step in when it becomes ridiculously one sided, or Parker's corner may call a halt between rounds.

When it comes to betting odds, Joshua is a heavy 12-1 choice to win and a very solid -450 to win by KO.

So great chin or not, Parker is not expected to be around for the distance.

And no, I don't believe Parker can win by a decision should he survive to the final bell.

I'm not a big believer in his skills and feel he'll be purely on the defensive in this fight. Parker may hold a belt but I won't confuse him with a true heavyweight champion.

It should be lopsided whether it goes 1 or it lasts 12.

[Nightmare Roy]

Easy night for AJ, he's better than Parker in every department

[jamamb]

parkers hands are at least as fast (his best attribute) and his staminas probably not much worse if at all. i dont know about his heart but aj has plenty, and aj has proven high level recovery powers..

power, technique, accuracy, size, defense all clear for aj. hes going to be hitting parker plenty right away and parker with his much shorter reach and lack of power is going to find it tough to get any respect.could be brutal pretty quickly.

[Deleted_Scenes]

All Parker's chin affects is how long the fight goes.

The only thing Parker ever had to offer, in a fight against Joshua, was his hand speed - and since reaching world level, he doesn't even use that anymore.

I'll be extremely surprised if this isn't Joshua's easiest night's work since Molina. In fact, if Parker's chin is less than advertised, a gun-shy Parker getting halted in the 3rd wouldn't surprise me too much.

I'm expecting him to have a decent, but not spectacular chin, and get saved from himself around the 6th.

[ValMar]

JP's chin might be a decisive factor against Joshua. If (the great IF) it is 10/10 or,at least 9/10, then Parker will have some chances, if not - it wil be debacle. Right now, we can not know, Parker has never fought the top level puncher.

[pablothunder]

What opinions do we have about Joshua's chin?
I think his notoriously powerful onslaught negates most opportunities at it but, when he is hit clean, he does stop for that extra moment or two.
Any guy over 16st who connects cleanly enough is a test of some sort, Parker hasn't faced any name punchers but he has been belted clean and his reactions to it do tell us something. Anybody can be cleaned out, it's how they react in the moments after taking it which tell the story, to me at least.
On that basis alone, I'd say Parker's chin looks good, no-one is indestructible but from what there is to be seen in previous fights, his supposed rep doesn't seem without foundation.

[SenorPipino]

JP's chin might be a decisive factor against Joshua. If (the great IF) it is 10/10 or,at least 9/10, then Parker will have some chances, if not - it wil be debacle. Right now, we can not know, Parker has never fought the top level puncher.

Even if his chin is a 10, that doesn't improve Parker's overall ability as a boxer.

His talent doesn't increase.

All it means us that he'll last longer. But his chance to actually win (5%? 10%) remain the same. Slim and none.

[ValMar]

JP's chin might be a decisive factor against Joshua. If (the great IF) it is 10/10 or,at least 9/10, then Parker will have some chances, if not - it wil be debacle. Right now, we can not know, Parker has never fought the top level puncher.

Even if his chin is a 10, that doesn't improve Parker's overall ability as a boxer.

His talent doesn't increase.

All it means us that he'll last longer. But his chance to actually win (5%? 10%) remain the same. Slim and none.

If his chin is really 10/10, if Joshua's gasses after six or seven rounds - then, Parker will have 5-10% chance...........

[KiwiRider]

I've heard Parker take hard shots.
You know, in a 10-15,000 seat arena, sounds like the crack of a gunshot with that slight echo?
You guys know what I mean, you hear a shot like that and expect to hear a count next.
But it's all irellevant, a good chin will just prolong the beatdown. AJ has height, reach, power, boxing skills, quality experience, and ring IQ all over Parker.
There is a tiny chance Parker could KO Joshua, never say never in the HW division.

[jamamb]

What opinions do we have about Joshua's chin?
I think his notoriously powerful onslaught negates most opportunities at it but, when he is hit clean, he does stop for that extra moment or two.
Any guy over 16st who connects cleanly enough is a test of some sort, Parker hasn't faced any name punchers but he has been belted clean and his reactions to it do tell us something. Anybody can be cleaned out, it's how they react in the moments after taking it which tell the story, to me at least.
On that basis alone, I'd say Parker's chin looks good, no-one is indestructible but from what there is to be seen in previous fights, his supposed rep doesn't seem without foundation.

joshua obviously doesnt have an iron chin but its decent enough and he recovers well

parker was hurt by some brazilian journeyman just as bad as aj was hurt by whyte. it seems very few have actually seen that fight vs the brazilian

[SenorPipino]

JP's chin might be a decisive factor against Joshua. If (the great IF) it is 10/10 or,at least 9/10, then Parker will have some chances, if not - it wil be debacle. Right now, we can not know, Parker has never fought the top level puncher.

Even if his chin is a 10, that doesn't improve Parker's overall ability as a boxer.

His talent doesn't increase.

All it means us that he'll last longer. But his chance to actually win (5%? 10%) remain the same. Slim and none.

If his chin is really 10/10, if Joshua's gasses after six or seven rounds - then, Parker will have 5-10% chance...........

If, if, if, if, if.

But I guess a promoters' ability to sell a lopsided fight has always depended on "if."

[ValMar]

Even if his chin is a 10, that doesn't improve Parker's overall ability as a boxer.

His talent doesn't increase.

All it means us that he'll last longer. But his chance to actually win (5%? 10%) remain the same. Slim and none.

If his chin is really 10/10, if Joshua's gasses after six or seven rounds - then, Parker will have 5-10% chance...........

If, if, if, if, if.

But I guess a promoters' ability to sell a lopsided fight has always depended on "if."

I think that you and me agree 95 % about this topic - Joshua is favourite 95 %.............

[jamamb]

parker rocked by an uppercut. then spends pretty much the next minute and a half on the backfoot after coming forward all fight. he stops punching after an initial 'get off of me' instinctual flurry and is looking weary and cornered. he then gets back into it but clearly he was buzzed.

not saying that means he cant take a punch or anything but hardly an iron chinned showing vs a guy who usually gets knocked over by anyone decent. whyte for example did this guy in 2

[ValMar]

parker rocked by an uppercut. then spends pretty much the next minute and a half on the backfoot after coming forward all fight. he stops punching and is looking weary in the corner. he then gets back into it but clearly he was buzzed.

not saying that means he cant take a punch or anything but hardly an iron chinned showing vs a guy who usually gets knocked over by anyone decent. whyte for example did this guy in 2

Interesting....I have never seen this fight, Yes, JP has been hurt, slightly, but hurt....

[jamamb]

and ppl can say 'oh but he punched back right away'

yes, but he throws a couple punches defensively and then doesnt do anything for the next 90 seconds and hes cornered and looking like the hunted one.

its true like valmar says that he wasnt seriously hurt id say, but still i dont think its really any less of being hurt then aj suffered vs whyte, who is far better than that brazilian