NSAC Head: We're Moving Forward With Adalaide Byrd

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According to Nevada State Athletic Commission head Bob Bennett, controversial judge Adalaide Byrd is about to get back in the mix.

Bob Bennett believes she is still a very competent judge and sees no reason to have her benched or kept away from major fights.

“If you’re an athlete and somebody has a bad day, you don’t bench them,” Bennett said MMA Fighting. “You put them back to work. I’d still say in the last 3-1/2 years, she’s done a great job. I don’t want to hear about 2012. As long as I’ve been here, she’s done a good job. … She’s a great judge. One fight sure as heck doesn’t define her career.

“We’ll take it one step at a time. We’ll make sure that she’s comfortable. We’ll continue to move forward. She’s been spot on [in recent fights] and she’s tough. I have a great deal of respect for her. She got raked over the coals, but she wants to come back. She’s a warrior and still wants to judge fights.”
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There's having a bad day and there's Adelaide Bird ffs! She shouldn't be allowed near the sport again unless it's as a spectator! She's fuckin woeful!
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Sounds like they are setting her up to be ready to judge a Canelo fight yet again.
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marvelous marv wrote: 03 Feb 2018, 09:26 Sounds like they are setting her up to be ready to judge a Canelo fight yet again.
She must give good ****.
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...the whole Nevada State Athletic Commission and their officiating strategy is a joke...Adalaide Byrd is just the product..
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marvelous marv wrote: 03 Feb 2018, 09:26 Sounds like they are setting her up to be ready to judge a Canelo fight yet again.
Just in time.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Feb 2018, 09:46
marvelous marv wrote: 03 Feb 2018, 09:26 Sounds like they are setting her up to be ready to judge a Canelo fight yet again.
Just in time.
GGG's camp should kick up holy fukk if that idiot is allowed anywhere near that fight!
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There is incompetence and then there is corruption
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her judging the rematch would be kerr azy
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She hasn't had one bad day. She has had one bad career.

They should just say how it is:

If they fire her she will spill all the info about all the other fixed fights that NSAC is fully involved with.
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klitoris wrote: 03 Feb 2018, 11:27 She hasn't had one bad day. She has had one bad career.

They should just say how it is:

If they fire her she will spill all the info about all the other fixed fights that NSAC is fully involved with.
yep, as the say "birds of a feather stick together"..
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I don't understand guys.

The woman has been judging fights for more than 20 years. I didn't hear squat about her except a little bit after the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight.

More than 400 fights judged and suddenly she's the devil incarnate and the poster child for boxing corruption.

Honestly, I didn't wince for a second when I heard her scorecard. I gave it to Canelo 8-4, so her somewhat wider score didn't ring any alarms.

She gets a bad rap, primarily I suppose from Golovkin fans and those who bet on the Khazaki fighter.

You're up in arms but she resumed judging fights back in October. Nobody said a word then.

She certainly wasn't brought back just for the rematch. They quickly brought her back because she's a veteran established judge in Nevada.

I always suspect that part of the sour grapes regarding Byrd is that she's a female in a primarily male dominated sport.

It was the same with CJ Ross in Pacquiao-Bradley 1 and Eugenia Williams in the first Holyfield-Lewis bout.

Both were lambasted for weeks in the media for their scorecards. With male judges, it's quickly forgive and forget.

If one of the male judges had turned in the 118-110 card, little controversy would have developed.

But because it was Byrd, a gutteral reaction surfaced.

"She's a woman. She doesn't know what the hell she's doing. Or worse, she was bought off."

Wouldn't someone buy off 2, not 1, judge if you wanted a decision to go a certain way?

Hopefully the rematch will avoid all this foolish conspiracy/incompetence accusations, and we'll have an old fashioned knockout.

Of course, if that occurs, some will opine that one of the fighters took a dive.

You can't win in boxing.
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mate 10-2 was awful, even as someone who thinks ggg gets very generously rated and judged. it was a ultra lopsided card in a super high profile fight so makes sense it would get lots of attention.
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People would've had a problem with that scorecard no matter the gender of the person delivering it
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greg wrote: 03 Feb 2018, 11:34
klitoris wrote: 03 Feb 2018, 11:27 She hasn't had one bad day. She has had one bad career.

They should just say how it is:

If they fire her she will spill all the info about all the other fixed fights that NSAC is fully involved with.
yep, as the say "birds of a feather stick together"..
Corruption tends to have that effect.
What else could they do to silence her?
Do they have enough hush money? Would she even take it? All pointless conjecture.

Where's the FBI when you need them? Trouble is, with all this $$$$$$$$ splashing about no one will speak up.

It would take just one whistleblower then it'd be like Weinstein all over again.
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Even GBP said it was wide..
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Whistleblowing in boxing unfortunately has few rewards and many dangers.

The vested interests involved in corruption have many powers, legal and illegal. They see no shame in hiding behind the law.

It was particularly stomach turning to see UKAD recently threatened with financial destruction as they went about their work. Much of the threat was implied, but unsavoury nonetheless.
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Thomastearns wrote: 03 Feb 2018, 15:40 Whistleblowing in boxing unfortunately has few rewards and many dangers.

The vested interests involved in corruption have many powers, legal and illegal. They see no shame in hiding behind the law.

It was particularly stomach turning to see UKAD recently threatened with financial destruction as they went about their work. Much of the threat was implied, but unsavoury nonetheless.
In fairness, UKAD brought that on themselves, through the shambolic way they handled the case, although I agree with the sentiment and I'm not saying they were the only party at fault. If there's a likelihood that a court would actually rule against them, regardless of what we think of the Furys, that does suggest there's been some wrongdoing on their part, and how else do you penalise other than financially?

On Byrd... Yeah, one bad card after another. Not just the obvious ones either. I remember Pavlik spanking some guy a few years back, and she went and scored it level. She must know too much. I don't see how else they can keep her in a job.

Don Trella disappointed me though. Byrd, you half expect to turn in a bad card. Trella generally did a good job... he just went and scored Golovkin's best round of the whole fight 10-9 to Canelo. If he gets that one round correct, Byrd's card doesn't affect the outcome.
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I have no problem about Adalaide Byrd returning to work as a judge, as long as she undergoes a probationary period of about twelve months where she only officiates domestic-level contests.

Perhaps, once she’s proven herself as being competent in her role, then she should be considered for bigger bouts.

I do know that promoters are able to lodge a complaint to the NSAC and request that she doesn’t work on their fight cards, so I doubt that she’ll be able to judge any marquee bouts from now on.

I don’t believe that anyone should automatically assume that Adalaide Byrd is “corrupt” without possessing any evidence whatsoever to justify such an accusation. It’s far more likely that she’s either incompetent or suffered several horrendous days at the office.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 07:25 I do know that promoters are able to lodge a complaint to the NSAC and request that she doesn’t work on their fight cards, so I doubt that she’ll be able to judge any marquee bouts from now on.
The worse thing Nevada can do it Canelo/GGG takes place there is have Byrd as a judge. If they do, I can see some complaints to have this changed.
I'd assume other promoters from now on will do the same for high-profile fights.
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Deleted_Scenes wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 06:49 Don Trella disappointed me though. Byrd, you half expect to turn in a bad card. Trella generally did a good job... he just went and scored Golovkin's best round of the whole fight 10-9 to Canelo. If he gets that one round correct, Byrd's card doesn't affect the outcome.
This! Thought the exact same.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 03 Feb 2018, 10:31 There is incompetence and then there is corruption
The trick is to combine the two. Way to go NSAC !
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Enlightened-One wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 07:25 I have no problem about Adalaide Byrd returning to work as a judge, as long as she undergoes a probationary period of about twelve months where she only officiates domestic-level contests.

Perhaps, once she’s proven herself as being competent in her role, then she should be considered for bigger bouts.

I do know that promoters are able to lodge a complaint to the NSAC and request that she doesn’t work on their fight cards, so I doubt that she’ll be able to judge any marquee bouts from now on.

I don’t believe that anyone should automatically assume that Adalaide Byrd is “corrupt” without possessing any evidence whatsoever to justify such an accusation. It’s far more likely that she’s either incompetent or suffered several horrendous days at the office.
The evidence is clearly in the scorecard. Nobody who has even the most basic knowledge of boxing could score the Golovkin Alvarez fight the way she did. She is either corrupt or inept take your choice.

To my mind she should never again be let anywhere near a boxing event in any official capacity. That is nothing to do with her gender either. If she were both honest and competent the fact she's a woman is of no consequence to me whatsoever.
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candyslim wrote: 08 Feb 2018, 04:40
Enlightened-One wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 07:25 I have no problem about Adalaide Byrd returning to work as a judge, as long as she undergoes a probationary period of about twelve months where she only officiates domestic-level contests.

Perhaps, once she’s proven herself as being competent in her role, then she should be considered for bigger bouts.

I do know that promoters are able to lodge a complaint to the NSAC and request that she doesn’t work on their fight cards, so I doubt that she’ll be able to judge any marquee bouts from now on.

I don’t believe that anyone should automatically assume that Adalaide Byrd is “corrupt” without possessing any evidence whatsoever to justify such an accusation. It’s far more likely that she’s either incompetent or suffered several horrendous days at the office.
The evidence is clearly in the scorecard. Nobody who has even the most basic knowledge of boxing could score the Golovkin Alvarez fight the way she did. She is either corrupt or inept take your choice.

To my mind she should never again be let anywhere near a boxing event in any official capacity. That is nothing to do with her gender either. If she were both honest and competent the fact she's a woman is of no consequence to me whatsoever.
Your allegation of corruption is unsubstantiated, since this implies criminal activity. There is no “evidence” of Adalaide Byrd being paid to deliver her controversial decision. Simply put: you cannot prove your allegation.

Therefore, we can only assume that she was inept and the NSAC are partially responsible for this, since this wasn’t the first time Byrd has delivered similarly obscene scorecards.
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I never said she was corrupt I said she was corrupt or inept. The evidence is in her score card and is to my mind irrefutable.
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