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Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 14:33
by Ezzard
Underrated boxing career. Articulate and intelligent behind the microphone. He comes across as a real gentleman. Kind of chap I'd like to engage in conversation and sip a brandy with after dinner.
Great ambassador for the sport.
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 14:49
by ThereByTheGrace
Absolutely. He deserves his place in the hof. Naz said that last night. Always worth listening to only a matter of time!
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 14:52
by Boxerbeetle
I’ll always enjoy listening to McKenzie co-commentate on the Calzaghe-Lacy fight. Pretty much every time Calzaghe landed a hard shot, Duke would exclaim “Lacy’s gone! He’s got nothing left!” He must have said that about 80 times over a 12 round fight
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 14:57
by Boxerbeetle
More seriously, I remember McKenzie talking about his relationship with Mickey Duff on Bunce’s show after Mickey died; said some very nice words and showed so much class staying in contact even during the late stages of Alzheimer’s.
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 14:59
by Horse
ThereByTheGrace wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 14:49
Absolutely. He deserves his place in the hof.
I don't think that he does.
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 15:01
by ThereByTheGrace
Horse wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 14:59
ThereByTheGrace wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 14:49
Absolutely. He deserves his place in the hof.
I don't think that he does.
I think he does! All about opinions ☺
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 15:02
by Horse
Based on what?
His record is pretty weak.
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 15:07
by ThereByTheGrace
He has won world titles and he is a credit to the sport. Maybe his record is weak but hes still won them and knows his stuff
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 15:20
by Horse
ThereByTheGrace wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 15:07
He has won world titles and he is a credit to the sport. Maybe his record is weak but hes still won them and knows his stuff
The standards for the HoF are pretty high though.
Has he done enough outside the ring to qualify for a Non-Participant or Observer spot?
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 15:27
by Manchester Massive
Anyone know why Don Curry hasn't made it to the HOF?
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 15:44
by whiskey
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 14:52
I’ll always enjoy listening to McKenzie co-commentate on the Calzaghe-Lacy fight. Pretty much every time Calzaghe landed a hard shot, Duke would exclaim “Lacy’s gone! He’s got nothing left!” He must have said that about 80 times over a 12 round fight
Do you remember what he said after Joe fought Hopkins?
‘I cannot see any way Joe won that fight’. Haye was stood next to him and completely agreed. Both were baffled.
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 16:00
by Sklar
Peter Buckley always said that Duke was the best he fought. I know that’s a journeyman speaking but to rate him higher than e.g. Naz is some compliment.
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 16:01
by Counter-puncher
Sklar wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 16:00
Peter Buckley always said that Duke was the best he fought. I know that’s a journeyman speaking but to rate him higher than e.g. Naz is some compliment.
'His jab was like getting hit in the face with a broom handle'
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 16:06
by BlakkMamba
Titles at Fly, Bantam and Super Bantam and a world title challenge at feather - other people on the list of three weight world champions include Ray Leonard, henry armstrong, James Toney and Miguel Angel Cotto.
However the list also includes Ricky Burns and Hozumi Hasegawa.
Unfortunately, good as Duke was, I think he is closer to the second set of names than the first, it would be a no from me I think.
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 17:54
by Taansend
ThereByTheGrace wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 15:01
Horse wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 14:59
ThereByTheGrace wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 14:49
Absolutely. He deserves his place in the hof.
I don't think that he does.
I think he does! All about opinions ☺
He definitely does.
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 17:58
by Horse
Taansend wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 17:54He definitely does.
He doesn't though.
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 17:58
by Boxerbeetle
Horse wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 17:58
Taansend wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 17:54He definitely does.
He doesn't though.
Is he less deserving than Gatti?
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 18:04
by Horse
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 17:58Is he less deserving than Gatti?
I'd say so.
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 18 Feb 2018, 19:13
by jamamb
the main hall of fame in new york? would have to be a massive no from me. do ppl think tracy harris patterson should be in? he kinds seems like the american duke. they both had title fights vs jesse benavidez (both beat) and thierry jacobs (duke lost ud and patterson won tko2).
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 06:33
by Datsue
jamamb wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 19:13
the main hall of fame in new york? would have to be a massive no from me. do ppl think tracy harris patterson should be in? he kinds seems like the american duke. they both had title fights vs jesse benavidez (both beat) and thierry jacobs (duke lost ud and patterson won tko2).
I had some serious man-love for Tracy Harris Patterson, back in the day.
On-topic, I really loved Duke as a boxer but I cannot take to his commentary, despite the fact he comes across as a lovely bloke, as I'm sure he actually is in real life. When commentating he's just normally wrong about what's going on, IMO.
Still, as it's normally that or someone I instantly have to mute lest I kick a hole in the wall...
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 06:52
by Coco
I have always ratee Duke as a commentator, as a fighter he won 3 world titles at 3 different weights, while he was no sugar Ray Leonard he was still in the same class as McGuigan
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 06:52
by Coco
Coco wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 06:52
I have always ratee Duke as a commentator, as a fighter he won 3 world titles at 3 different weights, while he was no sugar Ray Leonard he was still in the same class as McGuigan
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 07:45
by mickeyb
Coco wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 06:52
Coco wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 06:52
I have always ratee Duke as a commentator, as a fighter he won 3 world titles at 3 different weights, while he was no sugar Ray Leonard he was still in the same class as McGuigan
That's what he said...
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 08:06
by jamamb
tell me dukes 5 best wins, f@ck the titles, because those on there own dont mean much (broner is not just a 3, but a 4 weight champ)
Re: Duke McKenzie is a legend
Posted: 19 Feb 2018, 08:13
by Horse
Coco wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 06:52
I have always ratee Duke as a commentator, as a fighter he won 3 world titles at 3 different weights, while he was no sugar Ray Leonard he was still in the same class as McGuigan
I'd say McGuigan had a significantly better record.