ALI VS LISTON --- 1964.
Posted: 07 Mar 2018, 21:27
Can anyone verify whether the two bouts these two were fought in eight ounce gloves or ten ounce? Anyone know for sure....pls post...........
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Yes, but you are willing to take the time to be obnoxious and idiotic, so...there you have it.Kalan wrote: ↑08 Mar 2018, 22:10 Bully for you BuzzBox... In not being willing to take your valuable time to track down the weight in no uncertain terms.
Most top trainers - because they've laced on and taped up hundreds of gloves of various sizes on hundreds of boxers.... would take one look at those gloves and say "They're 8 oz" ... but they wouldn't be positive less they weighed them.
But I would get on the case straight away if I were you... It's of earth shaking significance.
10 oz.vatech1983 wrote: ↑07 Mar 2018, 21:27 Can anyone verify whether the two bouts these two were fought in eight ounce gloves or ten ounce? Anyone know for sure....pls post...........![]()
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Until now we were having fun and you have to be mean spirited... Shows what low level piece of crap you are.oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Mar 2018, 12:39Yes, but you are willing to take the time to be obnoxious and idiotic, so...there you have it.Kalan wrote: ↑08 Mar 2018, 22:10 Bully for you BuzzBox... In not being willing to take your valuable time to track down the weight in no uncertain terms.
Most top trainers - because they've laced on and taped up hundreds of gloves of various sizes on hundreds of boxers.... would take one look at those gloves and say "They're 8 oz" ... but they wouldn't be positive less they weighed them.
But I would get on the case straight away if I were you... It's of earth shaking significance.
Do you actually READ your posts? You come across as pompous; nasty; and you always, and I mean always, have something nasty to say to all. You are like a politician...you say anything that makes you seem smarter even though it is asinine, childish, and without merit and expect everyone to believe it no matter how pathetic. So don't throw stones.Kalan wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 00:38Until now we were having fun and you have to be mean spirited... Shows what low level piece of crap you are.oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Mar 2018, 12:39Yes, but you are willing to take the time to be obnoxious and idiotic, so...there you have it.Kalan wrote: ↑08 Mar 2018, 22:10 Bully for you BuzzBox... In not being willing to take your valuable time to track down the weight in no uncertain terms.
Most top trainers - because they've laced on and taped up hundreds of gloves of various sizes on hundreds of boxers.... would take one look at those gloves and say "They're 8 oz" ... but they wouldn't be positive less they weighed them.
But I would get on the case straight away if I were you... It's of earth shaking significance.
Hateful Jerk...did I hurt your feelings? I agree that it's ludicrous to compare fighters (heavy's) from different eras, but, you really invite counterattacks rather than responses. Let's start over and be tame it a bit. Maybe you will be better received, as I have had no issues in the forum. Seems you get a lot. I had another post today that actually complimented you so calm down and kill creepers.Kalan wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:03 You're fulla bullcrap and come across as a hateful jerk.... I never say anything nasty unless you get nasty and personal with me first... I'm entitled to my point of view and present it with cold, hard facts to back it up.
Since I don't think the 21st Century's top boxers have been a bunch losers -- and don't think 50's, '60's, and 70's boxers were necessarily the greatest ever -- and I don't think American boxers are necessarily the best boxers on the planet in every instance, a few dim witted ignoramuses have taken the occasion to attack me personally in the without presenting any counter argument whatever. I give it back in kind on occasion but often ignore the idiots. The posters who starts these attacks are the ones who should be banned and there'd be a lot more decorum here.
You didn't hurt my feelings... I'm used to knee jerk attack from non-thinkers... It's not ludicrous to compare fighters because it’s done all the time. In fact, that's what makes up 90% of any discussion on any Boxing Forum. Anytime anybody makes a Top-10 ATG list he's comparing his picks to every other boxer who ever fought... People are always posting "time tunnel" match-ups such as Braddock vs Marciano and whatnot... People respond because it's fun. However for a few it doesn't seem to be fun. They take it personally if you say Joshua would have beaten Ali - as if Ali is sacrosanct and never lost to short, fat, hittable, chinny, or novice opponents.oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:05Hateful Jerk...did I hurt your feelings? I agree that it's ludicrous to compare fighters (heavy's) from different eras, but, you really invite counterattacks rather than responses. Let's start over and be tame it a bit. Maybe you will be better received, as I have had no issues in the forum. Seems you get a lot. I had another post today that actually complimented you so calm down and kill creepers.Kalan wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:03 You're fulla bullcrap and come across as a hateful jerk.... I never say anything nasty unless you get nasty and personal with me first... I'm entitled to my point of view and present it with cold, hard facts to back it up.
Since I don't think the 21st Century's top boxers have been a bunch losers -- and don't think 50's, '60's, and 70's boxers were necessarily the greatest ever -- and I don't think American boxers are necessarily the best boxers on the planet in every instance, a few dim witted ignoramuses have taken the occasion to attack me personally in the without presenting any counter argument whatever. I give it back in kind on occasion but often ignore the idiots. The posters who starts these attacks are the ones who should be banned and there'd be a lot more decorum here.
So I put out an olive branch and you go back to insults. You are worthless. Go away. LMFAO!Kalan wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:30You didn't hurt my feelings... I'm used to knee jerk attack from non-thinkers... It's not ludicrous to compare fighters because it’s done all the time. In fact, that's what makes up 90% of any discussion on any Boxing Forum. Anytime anybody makes a Top-10 ATG list he's comparing his picks to every other boxer who ever fought... People are always posting "time tunnel" match-ups such as Braddock vs Marciano and whatnot... People respond because it's fun. However for a few it doesn't seem to be fun. They take it personally if you say Joshua would have beaten Ali - as if Ali is sacrosanct and never lost to short, fat, hittable, chinny, or novice opponents.oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:05Hateful Jerk...did I hurt your feelings? I agree that it's ludicrous to compare fighters (heavy's) from different eras, but, you really invite counterattacks rather than responses. Let's start over and be tame it a bit. Maybe you will be better received, as I have had no issues in the forum. Seems you get a lot. I had another post today that actually complimented you so calm down and kill creepers.Kalan wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:03 You're fulla bullcrap and come across as a hateful jerk.... I never say anything nasty unless you get nasty and personal with me first... I'm entitled to my point of view and present it with cold, hard facts to back it up.
Since I don't think the 21st Century's top boxers have been a bunch losers -- and don't think 50's, '60's, and 70's boxers were necessarily the greatest ever -- and I don't think American boxers are necessarily the best boxers on the planet in every instance, a few dim witted ignoramuses have taken the occasion to attack me personally in the without presenting any counter argument whatever. I give it back in kind on occasion but often ignore the idiots. The posters who starts these attacks are the ones who should be banned and there'd be a lot more decorum here.![]()
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shouldnt those gloves be in the Boxing Hall of Fame ?Caractacus wrote: ↑09 Mar 2018, 14:00 did you just buy a pair and want to now if they're really authentic or something ?
because check this out .(because it sure looks as if Sonny Liston's Ham-sized Mitts were in both of them to me)
https://sports.ha.com/itm/boxing-collec ... 30-80064.s
They were auctioned off in 2014 or something like that so yes...you are correct as far as that pair goes.SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 16:15 I would wager that collectors own those pair of gloves, not a museum.
.Now where are the Manila gloves? And how much did they weigh?oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 16:18They were auctioned off in 2014 or something like that so yes...you are correct as far as that pair goes.SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 16:15 I would wager that collectors own those pair of gloves, not a museum.
LMAO!!!!SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 16:30.Now where are the Manila gloves? And how much did they weigh?oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 16:18They were auctioned off in 2014 or something like that so yes...you are correct as far as that pair goes.SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 16:15 I would wager that collectors own those pair of gloves, not a museum.
No insults... That was my olive branch.oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 15:17So I put out an olive branch and you go back to insults. You are worthless. Go away. LMFAO!Kalan wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:30You didn't hurt my feelings... I'm used to knee jerk attack from non-thinkers... It's not ludicrous to compare fighters because it’s done all the time. In fact, that's what makes up 90% of any discussion on any Boxing Forum. Anytime anybody makes a Top-10 ATG list he's comparing his picks to every other boxer who ever fought... People are always posting "time tunnel" match-ups such as Braddock vs Marciano and whatnot... People respond because it's fun. However for a few it doesn't seem to be fun. They take it personally if you say Joshua would have beaten Ali - as if Ali is sacrosanct and never lost to short, fat, hittable, chinny, or novice opponents.oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:05
Hateful Jerk...did I hurt your feelings? I agree that it's ludicrous to compare fighters (heavy's) from different eras, but, you really invite counterattacks rather than responses. Let's start over and be tame it a bit. Maybe you will be better received, as I have had no issues in the forum. Seems you get a lot. I had another post today that actually complimented you so calm down and kill creepers.![]()
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