Big Bear
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 14:55
Is this something British fighters use
And what’s the big attraction with it in terms of preparation?
And what’s the big attraction with it in terms of preparation?
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Re: Big Bear
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 16:21
i think altitude, and fact that a number of good fighters train there so theres prob good sparring
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 16:25
It’s altitude training that made it a destination.
Very popular with Americans.
George Groves has done camps there, dunno which other British fighters have.
Very popular with Americans.
George Groves has done camps there, dunno which other British fighters have.
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 16:59
That’s where Lennox used to train, right?
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 17:17
Yeah Lewis trained there. Obviously most famous because Ali trained there. Did Barrera not train there for the Hamed fight?
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 17:25
I believe so. I think that’s where the ‘Jeremy Williams Judo throw’ happened?
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 21:00
De La Hoya owned a big training facility there which he used to prepare for his fights. I always associated Big Bear with him. I didn’t realise Ali used it as a training base too.
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 04:57
Ali is synonymous with Deer Lake, Big Bear only started in the 90s so i doubt Ali trained there.
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 06:56
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 06:57
I was getting deer lake and sonny liston mixed up in my head!
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 11:34
GGG trains there as well I believe.... must have good, natural meat 
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 11:55
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 14:09
I think Shane Mosley trained there
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 01:04
Altitude, it’s almost twice the height of Ben Nevis.
Focus, it’s completely cut off from, well, anywhere. Once you’re there that’s all there is until you’re done .
Focus, it’s completely cut off from, well, anywhere. Once you’re there that’s all there is until you’re done .
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 03:29
The altitude is very helpful for fighting 
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 09:11
You really should be training at high altitude and recovering at low altitude to maximise the benefits but it doesn't seem to be going GGG or Gassiev too much harm.
Apparently Arreola had one training camp there and felt like he was being held hostage so the solitude won't suit everyone.
Apparently Arreola had one training camp there and felt like he was being held hostage so the solitude won't suit everyone.
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 09:37
I read a British Fighter went out there but soon came back as they found it so toughShirow wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 09:11 You really should be training at high altitude and recovering at low altitude to maximise the benefits but it doesn't seem to be going GGG or Gassiev too much harm.
Apparently Arreola had one training camp there and felt like he was being held hostage so the solitude won't suit everyone.
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 11:03
Tenerife is good for altitude training. Think Nigel Benn trained up at mount tiede.
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 16:53
I think Paul Ingle went there with Lennox during their Maloney days. Paul got homesick. That's not unusual for him. He'd get homesick for Scarborough when he was training in Hull.Tommyscc wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 09:37I read a British Fighter went out there but soon came back as they found it so toughShirow wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 09:11 You really should be training at high altitude and recovering at low altitude to maximise the benefits but it doesn't seem to be going GGG or Gassiev too much harm.
Apparently Arreola had one training camp there and felt like he was being held hostage so the solitude won't suit everyone.
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 19 Mar 2018, 08:02
Barrera trained there for the Naz fight. I think it helped him a bit.
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 19 Mar 2018, 08:20
Audley Harrison trained there, I think for the haye fight. Worked well.
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 19 Mar 2018, 15:55
I remember some huge Puerto Rican heavyweight in that camp trying convince us all how brilliant Harrison was going to be.Bigdogsnose wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 08:20 Audley Harrison trained there, I think for the haye fight. Worked well.
NeveR heard off him again either
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 20 Mar 2018, 03:01
Yeah, there was a short documentary on his time there. Think Audley had that knack of convincing folk how brilliant he was no matter how much evidence to the contrary.Tommyscc wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 15:55I remember some huge Puerto Rican heavyweight in that camp trying convince us all how brilliant Harrison was going to be.Bigdogsnose wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 08:20 Audley Harrison trained there, I think for the haye fight. Worked well.
NeveR heard off him again either
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 20 Mar 2018, 03:49
Yeah I remember the documentary Israel Garcia was the Puerto Rican sparring partnerBigdogsnose wrote: ↑20 Mar 2018, 03:01Yeah, there was a short documentary on his time there. Think Audley had that knack of convincing folk how brilliant he was no matter how much evidence to the contrary.Tommyscc wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 15:55I remember some huge Puerto Rican heavyweight in that camp trying convince us all how brilliant Harrison was going to be.Bigdogsnose wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 08:20 Audley Harrison trained there, I think for the haye fight. Worked well.
NeveR heard off him again either
Re: Big Bear
Posted: 20 Mar 2018, 07:11
Audley was a skilled boxer.Bigdogsnose wrote: ↑20 Mar 2018, 03:01Yeah, there was a short documentary on his time there. Think Audley had that knack of convincing folk how brilliant he was no matter how much evidence to the contrary.Tommyscc wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 15:55I remember some huge Puerto Rican heavyweight in that camp trying convince us all how brilliant Harrison was going to be.Bigdogsnose wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 08:20 Audley Harrison trained there, I think for the haye fight. Worked well.
NeveR heard off him again either
With big gloves, headguard and mediocre partners I imagine he looked the business in sparring more than once.
It was only under the pressure of big occasions against decent opponents that he fell to pieces.