BoxRec

It is my prediction. What do you think ?

1. Joshua
2. T. Fury
3. Dubois
4. Usyk
5. Hrgović
6. Gassiev
7. Wilder
8. Parker
9. H. Fury
10. Miller

I think trying to predict Boxing rankings in 2 years time is an exercise in futility.

Considering boxing moves in slow motion, they will probably be near identical to what it is now.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 10:34 I think trying to predict Boxing rankings in 2 years time is an exercise in futility.

Every boxing fan likes to be right predicting the future of some boxers. Of course, it should not be considered too serious.
I have been right about Usyk, Crawford and Spence recently (we will know more about M. Garcia, soon), about Brook and Khan.
I failed because I had expected much more from Solis and Helenius, partly Gamboa, too...........
Right now, I feel Dubois and Hrgović are coming, and I am not so sure for Joyce (let us say, partly).............

You're way off on Dubois. Give him like 5 years, not 2. He's done well for someone his age, but he is likely 7 years away from his prime. When Wilder was at the same stage of development (fighting guys like Harold Sconiers and Damon Reed), he was still 3-4 years away from reaching the top 10; and Wilder was already older and more accomplished in the amateurs. There are a lot of prospects that are closer to contention-ready, like Nathan Gorman, Tom Schwarz, Peter Milas, Mladen Miljas, Jermaine Franklin, and Oleksandr Teslenko. They are all older than Dubois, higher in the rankings, and are all likely to peak sooner than Dubois does. Dubois reaches the top 10 AFTER they do.

Agit Kabayel has a good chance of being in the top 10 by then; he is only 25 years old and already #19. He doesn't have to do much in the next 2 years to make the top 10 -- just beat Joey Abell and Eric Molina. He's on the rise while 8 of the people above him (in boxrec's current rankings) are going to be in a steep decline.

Daniel dubois and wilder will be the kings
joe joyce and Joshua will be around the blocks

Tyson Fury
Anthony Joshua
Joe Joyce
Parker
Miller
Kownacki
Deontay Wilder
Junlong Zhang
Dubois
Povetkin

2 years ain't that far off, there won't change that much that fast usually.

asdfjkl wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 05:42 Tyson Fury
Anthony Joshua
Joe Joyce
Parker
Miller
Kownacki
Deontay Wilder
Junlong Zhang
Dubois
Povetkin

2 years ain't that far off, there won't change that much that fast usually.

Kownacki ? I doubt it.....
Zhang ? Honestly, I don't know anything about him.............

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 13:55

asdfjkl wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 05:42 Tyson Fury
Anthony Joshua
Joe Joyce
Parker
Miller
Kownacki
Deontay Wilder
Junlong Zhang
Dubois
Povetkin

2 years ain't that far off, there won't change that much that fast usually.

Kownacki ? I doubt it.....
Zhang ? Honestly, I don't know anything about him.............

Well, he will be at his prime at that age, and he doesn't fight that often, I don't see him losing in his next 4 fights so yea, I think Kownacki will be in.
Junlong Zhang continually faces bums and cruiserweights, so he won't lose any match either so very similar story I guess.

asdfjkl wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 14:47

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 13:55

asdfjkl wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 05:42 Tyson Fury
Anthony Joshua
Joe Joyce
Parker
Miller
Kownacki
Deontay Wilder
Junlong Zhang
Dubois
Povetkin

2 years ain't that far off, there won't change that much that fast usually.

Kownacki ? I doubt it.....
Zhang ? Honestly, I don't know anything about him.............

Well, he will be at his prime at that age, and he doesn't fight that often, I don't see him losing in his next 4 fights so yea, I think Kownacki will be in.
Junlong Zhang continually faces bums and cruiserweights, so he won't lose any match either so very similar story I guess.

OK, I hope we will be alive in two years and know whether you were right.

asdfjkl wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 05:42 Tyson Fury
Anthony Joshua
Joe Joyce
Parker
Miller
Kownacki
Deontay Wilder
Junlong Zhang
Dubois
Povetkin

2 years ain't that far off, there won't change that much that fast usually.

First you say that two years is short time and then you throw 5 fighters in the top 10 that are nowhere near it currently... Good one

Kownacki will probably never break into top 10. I doubt that Zhang will either.

Dubois and Joyce will probably get there but I don't think that two years is enough time. At least not inside top 3.

My guess is that Fury will fight couple of times and then loose to AJ and then disappear again. He might be considered to be inside top then at the given date.

My guess...

1 Joshua
2 Wilder
3 Pulev
4 Parker
5 T. fury
6 Miller
7 H. Fury
8 Ruiz
9 Jennings
10 Glazkov

Heretic wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 16:08 My guess...

1 Joshua
2 Wilder
3 Pulev
4 Parker
5 T. fury
6 Miller
7 H. Fury
8 Ruiz
9 Jennings
10 Glazkov

Is Glazkov alive / active ?

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 16:23

Heretic wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 16:08 My guess...

1 Joshua
2 Wilder
3 Pulev
4 Parker
5 T. fury
6 Miller
7 H. Fury
8 Ruiz
9 Jennings
10 Glazkov

Is Glazkov alive / active ?

I don't know.

That was bit of wild card thrown in there

Skill vice he could very well do the trick if he gets back soon. Might be that he never will.

Does anybody know anything about Glazkov ?

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 10:34 I think trying to predict Boxing rankings in 2 years time is an exercise in futility.

Funny, I was just thinking why am I going to go through with this. Thanks...you saved me some time. Cheers!

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 16:23

Heretic wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 16:08 My guess...

1 Joshua
2 Wilder
3 Pulev
4 Parker
5 T. fury
6 Miller
7 H. Fury
8 Ruiz
9 Jennings
10 Glazkov

Is Glazkov alive / active ?

No he is not active and from all I can find doesn't appear to be coming back

oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 19:49

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 10:34 I think trying to predict Boxing rankings in 2 years time is an exercise in futility.

Funny, I was just thinking why am I going to go through with this. Thanks...you saved me some time. Cheers!

I do what I can

hard to say, ppl mentioning a guy like dubois, but on what basis can you predict how hell be stepped up? i can easily see in two years him not having been moved beyond british level.

i think hes very valued by warren and at his young age i doubt there will be a rush or much throwing him into the deep end. so even if he really is that good he could still be not really in the top 10 ballpark.

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 13:55

asdfjkl wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 05:42 Tyson Fury
Anthony Joshua
Joe Joyce
Parker
Miller
Kownacki
Deontay Wilder
Junlong Zhang
Dubois
Povetkin

2 years ain't that far off, there won't change that much that fast usually.

Kownacki ? I doubt it.....
Zhang ? Honestly, I don't know anything about him.............

Kownacki is literally already in boxrec's top 10. I wouldn't doubt it too hard.

Although, my realistic expectation is that in 2 years time, Kownacki will get another win and rise higher, get a title shot, lose, and be back outside the top 10 by the time March 2020 rolls around.

Lackeos wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 21:49

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 13:55

asdfjkl wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 05:42 Tyson Fury
Anthony Joshua
Joe Joyce
Parker
Miller
Kownacki
Deontay Wilder
Junlong Zhang
Dubois
Povetkin

2 years ain't that far off, there won't change that much that fast usually.

Kownacki ? I doubt it.....
Zhang ? Honestly, I don't know anything about him.............

Kownacki is literally already in boxrec's top 10. I wouldn't doubt it too hard.

Although, my realistic expectation is that in 2 years time, Kownacki will get another win and rise higher, get a title shot, lose, and be back outside the top 10 by the time March 2020 rolls around.

Well rankings done with computer will always have some flaws. I guess that Kownacki got most of hes points from Szpilka who got most of his by beating the way over the hill Adamek who was still pretty highly ranked at the time.

In reality guys like Szpilka and Kownacki should not be anywhere near the top 10.

Heretic wrote: ↑20 Mar 2018, 02:58

Lackeos wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 21:49

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 13:55
Kownacki ? I doubt it.....
Zhang ? Honestly, I don't know anything about him.............

Kownacki is literally already in boxrec's top 10. I wouldn't doubt it too hard.

Although, my realistic expectation is that in 2 years time, Kownacki will get another win and rise higher, get a title shot, lose, and be back outside the top 10 by the time March 2020 rolls around.

Well rankings done with computer will always have some flaws. I guess that Kownacki got most of hes points from Szpilka who got most of his by beating the way over the hill Adamek who was still pretty highly ranked at the time.

In reality guys like Szpilka and Kownacki should not be anywhere near the top 10.

Much bigger flaws are actually cruiserweights that gain some weight and are heavyweights all of a sudden.
At one point Tony Bellew was the rank 3 heavyweight of the world! XD Lol

asdfjkl wrote: ↑20 Mar 2018, 03:10

Heretic wrote: ↑20 Mar 2018, 02:58

Lackeos wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 21:49
Kownacki is literally already in boxrec's top 10. I wouldn't doubt it too hard.

Although, my realistic expectation is that in 2 years time, Kownacki will get another win and rise higher, get a title shot, lose, and be back outside the top 10 by the time March 2020 rolls around.

Well rankings done with computer will always have some flaws. I guess that Kownacki got most of hes points from Szpilka who got most of his by beating the way over the hill Adamek who was still pretty highly ranked at the time.

In reality guys like Szpilka and Kownacki should not be anywhere near the top 10.

Much bigger flaws are actually cruiserweights that gain some weight and are heavyweights all of a sudden.
At one point Tony Bellew was the rank 3 heavyweight of the world! XD Lol

Yeah that's true. Thats also where Adamek got lot of the points he had.

ValMar wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 08:40 It is my prediction. What do you think ?

1. Joshua
2. T. Fury
3. Dubois
4. Usyk
5. Hrgović
6. Gassiev
7. Wilder
8. Parker
9. H. Fury
10. Miller

Two years is 3-4 fights in the current pace. That's not enough time for guys like Dubois and Hrgovic to raise so high.

Gassiev vs Usyk winner might very well be in the top 10 in two years. He is just one or two HW wins away from having pretty high ranking. I guess that the looser might fight one or two CW matches first and try hes luck in HW year or two later.