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Posted: **19 Mar 2018, 06:39**

Found this on another site, I can only assume its correct

29/10/60 vs Hunsaker $2000
27/12/60 vs Siler $200
17/01/61 vs Esperti $545
07/02/61 vs Robinson $645
21/02/61 vs Fleeman $913
19/04/61 vs Clark $2548
26/06/61 vs Sabedong $1500
22/07/61 vs Johnson $6636
07/10/61 vs Miteff $5644
29/11/61 vs Besmanoff $2048
10/02/62 vs Banks $5014
28/02/62 vs Warner $1675
23/04/62 vs Logan $9206
19/05/62 vs Daniels $6000
20/07/62 vs Lavorante $15,149
15/11/62 vs Moore $45,300
24/01/63 vs Powell $14,331
13/03/63 vs Jones $57,668
18/06/63 vs Cooper $56,098
25/02/64 vs Liston $464,595
25/05/65 vs Liston $361,819
22/11/65 vs Patterson $300,078
29/03/66 vs Chuvalo $66,332
21/05/66 vs Cooper $448,186
06/08/66 vs London $290,411
10/09/66 vs Mildenberger $211,576
14/11/66 vs Williams $405,000
06/02/67 vs Terrell $585,000
22/03/67 vs Folley $275,000
Exile: April 1967 - September 1970
26/10/70 vs Quarry $580,000
07/12/70 vs Bonavena $925,000
08/03/71 vs Frazier $2,500,000
26/07/71 vs Ellis $450,000
17/11/71 vs Mathis $300,000
26/12/71 vs Blin $250,000
01/04/72 vs Foster $200,000
01/05/72 vs Chuvalo $200,000
27/06/72 vs Quarry $500,000
19/07/72 vs Lewis $200,000
20/09/72 vs Patterson $250,000
21/11/72 vs Foster $260,000
14/02/73 vs Bugner $285,000
31/03/73 vs Norton $210,000
10/09/73 vs Norton $535,000
20/10/73 vs Lubbers $200,000
28/01/74 vs Frazier $1,715,000
30/10/74 vs Foreman $5,450,000
24/03/75 vs Wepner $1,500,000
16/05/75 vs Lyle $1,000,000
30/06/75 vs Bugner $2,100,000
30/09/75 vs Frazier $6,000,000

Posted: **20 Mar 2018, 05:50**

He made the most for Holmes.... 10,000,000... I didn't want to see it at that point... Too many people did.

Posted: **20 Mar 2018, 06:44**

Kalan wrote: ↑20 Mar 2018, 05:50 He made the most for Holmes.... 10,000,000... I didn't want to see it at that point... Too many people did.

Too many people living in the past and making money off the back of his fights. Many thought Ali could roll back the years but he was shot, he should have retired after the Shavers fight. A sad sight to see.

Posted: **20 Mar 2018, 09:58**

Inflate all those purses to today..

He made good money

Posted: **20 Mar 2018, 10:56**

Surprising that he made "only" $1,000,000 for the Lyle fight.

Posted: **20 Mar 2018, 11:18**

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑20 Mar 2018, 10:56 Surprising that he made "only" $1,000,000 for the Lyle fight.

That's $3,628,085.50 today

Posted: **20 Mar 2018, 14:04**

Hard to fathom it isn't it?

Still, he made more than double that for the Bugner fight and 1.5 million for the Wepner fight.

Posted: **20 Mar 2018, 14:12**

What about the Spinks and Shavers fights? Any info on those?

Posted: **20 Mar 2018, 14:23**

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑20 Mar 2018, 11:18
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑20 Mar 2018, 10:56 Surprising that he made "only" $1,000,000 for the Lyle fight.
That's $3,628,085.50 today

Boxing is less about skill and more about personalities that masses of people are drawn to: Sullivan... Johnson... Dempsey... Baer... Louis... Robinson... Ali... Foreman... Tyson... Joshua ... If Joshua were American his following would be unreal.

Wilder is something like Tunney and Holmes.... He's good but nobody cares... He busts his ass trying to have personality like Ken Norton did... "Kenny, calm down and just be Ken Norton you dumb shitt. You're not a star man - quit acting."

Joshua will make 10's of millions for Parker and possibly 100 million for Wilder if the fight gets the right kind of promotion and buildup in the US for the PPV... Wilder has a lot of height, reach, speed, power and ability... But nobody likes him... When they fight nationalism will kick in. Many will root for Wilder because he's an American... They never heard him talk.

It's like Dempsey and Tunney... Screw that cold dick Tunney... Where's Dempsey???

If you have Lewis, Holyfield, and Tyson at a roast, Tyson is the guy everybody is drawn to... Everyone will just barely tolerate speeches by Lewis and Holyfield and twitter at their lame jokes.. Tyson has everybody roaring and rolling in the aisles.

Posted: **21 Mar 2018, 00:08**

Controversial wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 06:39 Found this on another site, I can only assume its correct

29/10/60 vs Hunsaker $2000
27/12/60 vs Siler $200
17/01/61 vs Esperti $545
07/02/61 vs Robinson $645
21/02/61 vs Fleeman $913
19/04/61 vs Clark $2548
26/06/61 vs Sabedong $1500
22/07/61 vs Johnson $6636
07/10/61 vs Miteff $5644
29/11/61 vs Besmanoff $2048
10/02/62 vs Banks $5014
28/02/62 vs Warner $1675
23/04/62 vs Logan $9206
19/05/62 vs Daniels $6000
20/07/62 vs Lavorante $15,149
15/11/62 vs Moore $45,300
24/01/63 vs Powell $14,331
13/03/63 vs Jones $57,668
18/06/63 vs Cooper $56,098
25/02/64 vs Liston $464,595
25/05/65 vs Liston $361,819
22/11/65 vs Patterson $300,078
29/03/66 vs Chuvalo $66,332
21/05/66 vs Cooper $448,186
06/08/66 vs London $290,411
10/09/66 vs Mildenberger $211,576
14/11/66 vs Williams $405,000
06/02/67 vs Terrell $585,000
22/03/67 vs Folley $275,000
Exile: April 1967 - September 1970
26/10/70 vs Quarry $580,000
07/12/70 vs Bonavena $925,000
08/03/71 vs Frazier $2,500,000
26/07/71 vs Ellis $450,000
17/11/71 vs Mathis $300,000
26/12/71 vs Blin $250,000
01/04/72 vs Foster $200,000
01/05/72 vs Chuvalo $200,000
27/06/72 vs Quarry $500,000
19/07/72 vs Lewis $200,000
20/09/72 vs Patterson $250,000
21/11/72 vs Foster $260,000
14/02/73 vs Bugner $285,000
31/03/73 vs Norton $210,000
10/09/73 vs Norton $535,000
20/10/73 vs Lubbers $200,000
28/01/74 vs Frazier $1,715,000
30/10/74 vs Foreman $5,450,000
24/03/75 vs Wepner $1,500,000
16/05/75 vs Lyle $1,000,000
30/06/75 vs Bugner $2,100,000
30/09/75 vs Frazier $6,000,000

Good info. Interesting that he made more as a challenger fighting Liston than he did as Champion fighting Liston.

Posted: **21 Mar 2018, 10:55**

I think that was because the gate was small for the rematch. It was held in a small arena and was not promoted very well.

Posted: **21 Mar 2018, 17:28**

I thought it would have been the ones made by Gucci.

Posted: **21 Mar 2018, 17:32**

what were his opponent's purse's ?

Posted: **21 Mar 2018, 18:38**

Interesting that Ali only got 200,000 for his Chuvalo rematch and 200,000 for Blue Lewis...

Those turned out to be 2 of his tougher fights against 2 of his heaviest opponents... Ali took some hard head shots from both those guys and both were considered slow and ungainly... Chuvalo was getting old, but I thought he fought one of his better technical fights in the Ali rematch... Offensively that is. He never had a defense.

Chuvalo and Lewis were equivalent to Eric Molina... basically risk free for AJ... He didn't even get hit well and cleared about 6 million with his base purse and share of PPV... They make you pay for a Joshua-Molina fight over there, good grief... Boxing is big in the UK... If Joshua clubs Wilder into the canvas and starts coming here, it will get big here.

Posted: **21 Mar 2018, 18:54**

Kalan wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018, 18:38 Interesting that Ali only got 200,000 for his Chuvalo rematch and 200,000 for Blue Lewis...

Those turned out to be 2 of his tougher fights against 2 of his heaviest opponents... Ali took some hard head shots from both those guys and both were considered slow and ungainly... Chuvalo was getting old, but I thought he fought one of his better technical fights in the Ali rematch... Offensively that is. He never had a defense.

Chuvalo and Lewis were equivalent to Eric Molina... basically risk free for AJ... He didn't even get hit well and cleared about 6 million with his base purse and share of PPV... They make you pay for a Joshua-Molina fight over there, good grief... Boxing is big in the UK... If Joshua clubs Wilder into the canvas and starts coming here, it will get big here.

If you calculate to today's dollars, that's merely a little over $1.5 M

Posted: **22 Mar 2018, 00:41**

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018, 18:54
Kalan wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018, 18:38 Interesting that Ali only got 200,000 for his Chuvalo rematch and 200,000 for Blue Lewis...

Those turned out to be 2 of his tougher fights against 2 of his heaviest opponents... Ali took some hard head shots from both those guys and both were considered slow and ungainly... Chuvalo was getting old, but I thought he fought one of his better technical fights in the Ali rematch... Offensively that is. He never had a defense.

Chuvalo and Lewis were equivalent to Eric Molina... basically risk free for AJ... He didn't even get hit well and cleared about 6 million with his base purse and share of PPV... They make you pay for a Joshua-Molina fight over there, good grief... Boxing is big in the UK... If Joshua clubs Wilder into the canvas and starts coming here, it will get big here.
If you calculate to today's dollars, that's merely a little over $1.5 M

Hmmm... You're saying 200,000 in '72 was equivalent to 1 and a half million today??? Lets see... Bananas were 20 cents a lb... Now they're 50 cents... gas was about 37 cents as I recall... now it's 2.20... A real good house was about 75,000... Now it's 800,000... A steak dinner at a real good restaurant was 18 to 25 dollars... Now it's 60 dollars...

Cheap ballpoint pens are about the same price... People always give me expensive pens, then they see me using the super cheap ones... I lose them all the time so I'm glad their cheap... Clothes are about 4 X the cost... It's weird how some things have shot up in price and other things go up slowly. Productivity gains and world trade agreements probably.

Posted: **22 Mar 2018, 07:13**

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018, 18:54
Kalan wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018, 18:38 Interesting that Ali only got 200,000 for his Chuvalo rematch and 200,000 for Blue Lewis...

Those turned out to be 2 of his tougher fights against 2 of his heaviest opponents... Ali took some hard head shots from both those guys and both were considered slow and ungainly... Chuvalo was getting old, but I thought he fought one of his better technical fights in the Ali rematch... Offensively that is. He never had a defense.

Chuvalo and Lewis were equivalent to Eric Molina... basically risk free for AJ... He didn't even get hit well and cleared about 6 million with his base purse and share of PPV... They make you pay for a Joshua-Molina fight over there, good grief... Boxing is big in the UK... If Joshua clubs Wilder into the canvas and starts coming here, it will get big here.
If you calculate to today's dollars, that's merely a little over $1.5 M

$200,000 is equivalent to $1,191,344 in 2018 on the site I used.

Posted: **28 Mar 2018, 16:14**

$200,000 then or $1.2 million today.

What's the difference. It's nothing.

Considering what this era's superstars have been paid (see Mayweather and Pacquiao) can you imagine what an enormous talent and personality like Ali would rake in today?

He would easily eclipse $1 billion in career earnings.

Posted: **28 Mar 2018, 16:16**

SenorPipino wrote: ↑28 Mar 2018, 16:14 $200,000 then or $1.2 million today.

What's the difference. It's nothing.

Considering what this era's superstars have been paid (see Mayweather and Pacquiao) can you imagine what an enormous talent and personality like Ali would rake in today?

He would easily eclipse $1 billion in career earnings.

OMG! Yes...and we need a guy like that right now.

Posted: **28 Mar 2018, 20:20**

SenorPipino wrote: ↑28 Mar 2018, 16:14 $200,000 then or $1.2 million today.

What's the difference. It's nothing.

Considering what this era's superstars have been paid (see Mayweather and Pacquiao) can you imagine what an enormous talent and personality like Ali would rake in today?

He would easily eclipse $1 billion in career earnings.

You need to have longevity at the top to make as much as Mayweather and Pacquiao

Considering how many punches Ali took upside the head by incompetents who weighed under 200 pounds... He might not even be heard from in an era of giants like the Lennox Lewis's... the Klitschko Bro's... and Anthony Joshua...

The reason Floyd and Manny did so well is they fought until they were FORTY YEARS OLD without losing a step....

In sharp CONTRAST Ali was already beaten to trash when he lost to novice Leon Stinks, 6-0-1, at the age of 36....

Posted: **28 Mar 2018, 22:37**

Ali's professional career extended from 1960 to 1981. About 21 years.

His amateur days began in 1954.

So all told, Ali's boxing career last about 27 years.

I would say that qualifies for longevity by most peoples' standards.

Ali would be a billionaire in today's market, even if there's a dearth of quality heavyweights.

Posted: **28 Mar 2018, 23:42**

Heavyweights like Jean Pierre Coopman and Alfredo Evangelista would never get a shot at Joshua today... They'd be a blot on the canvas in 30 seconds and NO commission would allow it... Wepner gettin a shot Joshua???

be serious man... Karl Mildenbooger???

a 30 second job... Too many quality Heavyweights today for ridiculous stinkbomb Heavyweights to get world Title shots.

ALL of May & Pac's fights were big in their last 5 years... Generating 100's of Millions of dollars.... They didn't fight any 5th rate opponents on free TV like Ali did... Ali even got ripped by those guys -- as much as they could rip him with those itty bitty arms and soft punches... They took the violence out of Boxing... When Ali stepped up to Leon Spinks he got beat.

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 04:33**

How much did the Nation of Islam take out of each?

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 19:43**

Kalan wrote: ↑20 Mar 2018, 05:50 He made the most for Holmes.... 10,000,000... I didn't want to see it at that point... Too many people did.

It's funny but it was Leonard (Leonard-Duran) not a HW who opened the door to the eight figure payday. Most of the other payday big jumps came from HWs. Sullivan was the first to take it up into the ten thousands; Dempsey to six figures, and Ali/Frazier to multiple millions. But I think it was Leonard who first broke the 10 million mark (guarantee plus PPV revenue share). Then Holyfield took it to 20 million, and finally a mere LW, Floyd Mayweather took it to $100,000,000.

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 19:54**

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018, 18:54
Kalan wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018, 18:38 Interesting that Ali only got 200,000 for his Chuvalo rematch and 200,000 for Blue Lewis...

Those turned out to be 2 of his tougher fights against 2 of his heaviest opponents... Ali took some hard head shots from both those guys and both were considered slow and ungainly... Chuvalo was getting old, but I thought he fought one of his better technical fights in the Ali rematch... Offensively that is. He never had a defense.

Chuvalo and Lewis were equivalent to Eric Molina... basically risk free for AJ... He didn't even get hit well and cleared about 6 million with his base purse and share of PPV... They make you pay for a Joshua-Molina fight over there, good grief... Boxing is big in the UK... If Joshua clubs Wilder into the canvas and starts coming here, it will get big here.
If you calculate to today's dollars, that's merely a little over $1.5 M

Not a bad guesstimation (sp)

$200,000 in 1972 → $1,191,344.50 in 2018

That's assuming this web page is worth a damn.

http://www.in2013dollars.com/1972-dolla ... unt=200000

Oops just read Controversial's post, sorry.

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