Who wins, T. Fury vs. Povetkin (December 2018) ?

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 31 Mar 2018, 04:27

Supposing that Fury (fit/healthy) faced at least two B/B+ opponents in the meantime.

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 31 Mar 2018, 04:29

i dont know what fury will bring back, but on 2015 form hed widely decision povetkin

DrDuke · Post by **DrDuke** » 31 Mar 2018, 04:32

If Fury in his Klitschko fight shape, I'll pick him to take the decision.

lazboy · Post by **lazboy** » 31 Mar 2018, 04:58

Let’s see what Povetkin looks like tomorrow (where I am). His tits looked a bit sagged at the weigh in. Father Time? Fury is looking much better recently, he’s lost a good amount of weight good on him. His tits are looking firmer which I like.

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 31 Mar 2018, 05:07

i think the tits usually look like that

price is some f@cking giant though isnt he, absolutely massively towering over 6'2/6'3 guys and making them look like kids

lazboy · Post by **lazboy** » 31 Mar 2018, 05:15

Haha yes It’s a huge difference. Will be fun to see how it pans out.

greg · Post by **greg** » 31 Mar 2018, 05:17

..the sheer size and youth of Fury is likely to be the deciding factor against ageing Povetkin..

Luis Fernando12 · Post by **Luis Fernando12** » 31 Mar 2018, 05:44

ValMar wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 04:27 Supposing that Fury (fit/healthy) faced at least two B/B+ opponents in the meantime.

And utterly and a totally disgusting mismatch! No boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches in history would ever be favored to beat Tyson Fury. Fury would accidentally squish Povetkin like a bug!

It's ridiculous that we even discuss the outcomes of these astronomical mismatches. It's even more ridiculous that these mismatches even take place in boxing today in the first place. What next? Who wins between a rabbit and a dinosaur inside a Colosseum.

If David Price is anywhere near his best, I'm not even going to make Povetkin the favorite to beat him. In fact, price would probably win by KO inside 6 rounds.

If Povetkin beats Price, it'd be down to Price not being fully prepared, rather than anything from Povetkin. This fight is dependent upon David Price and if the best and most prepared version of Price turns up. no version of Povetkin probably stands any chance at winning.

It's disgusting that giants like Tyson Fury are allowed to compete against tiny insects in such astronomical and gruesome mismatches. The boxing commission really have to do something about this!

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 31 Mar 2018, 05:57

Thuis forum might be divided into these sections :

-Joshua's haters
-Wilder's haters
-Ortiz's haters
-Povetkin's haters
-T. Fury's /Fury's family haters
-The other haters
-Non-haters

Tomorrow I expect increasing number of Parker's haters.

Luis Fernando12 · Post by **Luis Fernando12** » 31 Mar 2018, 06:17

What did you expect after creating this thread? That you'll find votes of Povetkin beating Fury by decision or by KO? That's close to impossible!

I'm a Povetkin fan but no boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 in history, stands anything more than 10% chance at beating Tyson Fury. This is as big of a mismatch as Tyson Fury vs Tony Bellew.

Luis Fernando12 · Post by **Luis Fernando12** » 31 Mar 2018, 06:22

Fury can return in his current shape, without any training camp or sparring and still beat pretty much 100% of any boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches. The only boxers who even remotely pose a threat to him are boxers taller than 6 foot 3 inches.

asdfjkl · Post by **asdfjkl** » 31 Mar 2018, 06:30

Tyson Fury, Povetkin is getting old, nevertheless, Povetkin still deserves a payday

Luis Fernando12 · Post by **Luis Fernando12** » 31 Mar 2018, 07:16

Tyson Fury should only be forced to fight opponents his own size and not a bunch of undersized midgets who pose as fake heavyweights today,

bigjack · Post by **bigjack** » 31 Mar 2018, 07:18

lazboy wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 04:58 Let’s see what Povetkin looks like tomorrow (where I am). His tits looked a bit sagged at the weigh in. Father Time? Fury is looking much better recently, he’s lost a good amount of weight good on him. His tits are looking firmer which I like.

Hey,if you like men with firm tits then it's your choice

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 31 Mar 2018, 11:38

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 06:17 What did you expect after creating this thread? That you'll find votes of Povetkin beating Fury by decision or by KO? That's close to impossible!

I'm a Povetkin fan but no boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 in history, stands anything more than 10% chance at beating Tyson Fury. This is as big of a mismatch as Tyson Fury vs Tony Bellew.

Simply, I like to see different opinions. Tyson Fury is very underrated, here on this forum. Many posters consider him fat, lazy guy who had been lucky defeating the over-hill Wlad.....If I say that fit Fury will be dangerous for Joshua and Wilder, lot of posters will say that I am an ignorant, etc...etc....
Povetkin has been belonging at top 10 HW at least eight years (maybe ten, I am not sure), some posters, here, overestimate him, on the other side some posters do just the opposite. Every time, I try to be neutral and unbiased.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 31 Mar 2018, 11:44

Far too difficult to predict with any certainty.

Povetkin is 90 years old & Fury has come down from 90 stones & hasn't fought since 90 BC, so who knows what either has got left?

Thomastearns · Post by **Thomastearns** » 31 Mar 2018, 12:11

Syntax Error wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 11:44 Far too difficult to predict with any certainty.

Povetkin is 90 years old & Fury has come down from 90 stones & hasn't fought since 90 BC, so who knows what either has got left?

We'll know some more about the current state of Povetkin after tonight. As for Fury, his comeback fight has been a long time in the making. I doubt he'd ever step in the ring with a beast like Povetkin at any age. Fury was never one to make easy work of anyone. Picking the right, oh just so right opponent is going to be a challenge in itself.

With stricter testing in future we might start seeing radically different performances from what we're used to.

In that regard David Price might just be the unluckiest fighter ever.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 31 Mar 2018, 12:12

Fury is talking about needing a tune-up for Shannon Briggs for f*cks sake and you guys wanna throw him in there with Povetkin?

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 31 Mar 2018, 12:28

ValMar wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 05:57 Thuis forum might be divided into these sections :

-Joshua's haters
-Wilder's haters
-Ortiz's haters
-Povetkin's haters
-T. Fury's /Fury's family haters
-The other haters
-Non-haters

Tomorrow I expect increasing number of Parker's haters.

I fall into the I hate all promoter category.
I love the fighters I hate their management.
I need a 12 step program.
My name is Tiny and I'm a promoteraholic

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 31 Mar 2018, 13:11

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 12:28
ValMar wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 05:57 Thuis forum might be divided into these sections :

-Joshua's haters
-Wilder's haters
-Ortiz's haters
-Povetkin's haters
-T. Fury's /Fury's family haters
-The other haters
-Non-haters

Tomorrow I expect increasing number of Parker's haters.
I fall into the I hate all promoter category.
I love the fighters I hate their management.
I need a 12 step program.
My name is Tiny and I'm a promoteraholic

I don't hate, but I despise (almost all) promoters. Am I "the light version" of Tiny ?

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 31 Mar 2018, 13:15

gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 12:12 Fury is talking about needing a tune-up for Shannon Briggs for f*cks sake and you guys wanna throw him in there with Povetkin?

It's a wonderful life, really. Some posters think that I am a fool because Povetkin is too small and old to compete with Fury.
On the other side, some posters consider me a fool, because Fury is too fat, lazy and ring rusty to face Povetkin.
Interesting........

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 31 Mar 2018, 13:25

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 05:44
ValMar wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 04:27 Supposing that Fury (fit/healthy) faced at least two B/B+ opponents in the meantime.
And utterly and a totally disgusting mismatch! No boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches in history would ever be favored to beat Tyson Fury. Fury would accidentally squish Povetkin like a bug!

It's ridiculous that we even discuss the outcomes of these astronomical mismatches. It's even more ridiculous that these mismatches even take place in boxing today in the first place. What next? Who wins between a rabbit and a dinosaur inside a Colosseum.

If David Price is anywhere near his best, I'm not even going to make Povetkin the favorite to beat him. In fact, price would probably win by KO inside 6 rounds.

If Povetkin beats Price, it'd be down to Price not being fully prepared, rather than anything from Povetkin. This fight is dependent upon David Price and if the best and most prepared version of Price turns up. no version of Povetkin probably stands any chance at winning.

It's disgusting that giants like Tyson Fury are allowed to compete against tiny insects in such astronomical and gruesome mismatches. The boxing commission really have to do something about this!

Are you Enlightened_One? This nonsense you keep spouting about 'size mismatches', as if size is the be-all and end-all in boxing, sounds a lot like what he would say.

I don't believe you when you say you are familiar with the career of Price, because if you were, you'd understand that he has been crushed inside the distance by three fighters inferior to Povetkin, and his style makes size irrelevant, he is just very easy to back up whether you're a 6'1 220 lb heavy or a 6'6 250 lb one.

As for the question, Povetkin likely decisions any version of Fury, although it wouldn't be easy. If Fury comes back and looks particularly bad (as I'm expecting) he probably gets stopped.

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 31 Mar 2018, 13:30

ValMar wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 13:11
tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 12:28
ValMar wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 05:57 Thuis forum might be divided into these sections :

-Joshua's haters
-Wilder's haters
-Ortiz's haters
-Povetkin's haters
-T. Fury's /Fury's family haters
-The other haters
-Non-haters

Tomorrow I expect increasing number of Parker's haters.
I fall into the I hate all promoter category.
I love the fighters I hate their management.
I need a 12 step program.
My name is Tiny and I'm a promoteraholic
I don't hate, but I despise (almost all) promoters. Am I "the light version" of Tiny ?

I just hate all of the political bull crap of the sport. Fights that should be made but can't or won't.
Cover ups on drugs. Damage control .
You know the typical crap promoters do.

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 31 Mar 2018, 13:48

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 13:30
ValMar wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 13:11
tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 12:28

I fall into the I hate all promoter category.
I love the fighters I hate their management.
I need a 12 step program.
My name is Tiny and I'm a promoteraholic
I don't hate, but I despise (almost all) promoters. Am I "the light version" of Tiny ?
I just hate all of the political bull crap of the sport. Fights that should be made but can't or won't.
Cover ups on drugs. Damage control .
You know the typical crap promoters do.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 31 Mar 2018, 13:53

ValMar wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 13:15
gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 12:12 Fury is talking about needing a tune-up for Shannon Briggs for f*cks sake and you guys wanna throw him in there with Povetkin?
It's a wonderful life, really. Some posters think that I am a fool because Povetkin is too small and old to compete with Fury.
On the other side, some posters consider me a fool, because Fury is too fat, lazy and ring rusty to face Povetkin.
Interesting........

I don't think anybody's a fool it's just that the way Fury has been talking he'd have no interest in facing someone like a Povetkin anytime soon, but maybe I'm wrong. I'd personally love to see Fury come back against a guy on the level of Povetkin. It'd make for a VERY intriguing comeback bout because the possibilities for what could happen would be seemingly endless.