Under BBBOC rules can a pro trainer / coach do the same role in the semi pro scene? I know it’s frowned upon/ disallowed for a pro trainer to donsamenrole in amateur scene, but is it same in semi pro scene ??
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 02:10
by leejonesjnr
It’s not allowed for any license holder to be involved in any unlicensed boxing of any kind but it happens a lot
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 03:18
by smiling assassin
Can we not refer to it as semi pro please.
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 03:26
by Alba
No such thing as Semi Pro
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 04:04
by Gnome
Alba wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 03:26
No such thing as Semi Pro
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 06:02
by Coco
Semi pregnant
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 10:52
by spudder56
leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 02:10
It’s not allowed for any license holder to be involved in any unlicensed boxing of any kind but it happens a lot
Spot on
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 11:47
by REEVE
As far as i know u defo cant do pro and unlicnsed (there is no such thing as semi pro)
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 13:10
by leejonesjnr
There are at least 3 license holders who run their own unlicensed organisations and titles
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 13:30
by Wales
smiling assassin wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 03:18
Can we not refer to it as semi pro please.
It’s not unlicensed either, as many are licenced just not by the BBBOC
Who cares what it’s referred to anyway
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 13:31
by Wales
leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 13:10
There are at least 3 license holders who run their own unlicensed organisations and titles
This is what I can’t understand
I’m seeing some fookin terrible “dont refer to them as semi pro” fighters turning pro because their trainer has somehow got a BBBOC trainers licence ....
smiling assassin wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 03:18
Can we not refer to it as semi pro please.
It’s not unlicensed either, as many are licenced just not by the BBBOC
Who cares what it’s referred to anyway
I do cos when I talk to people and they say ' so you box amateur when do you know if your good enough to go semi pro ' I have to bite my tongue and change the conversation
smiling assassin wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 03:18
Can we not refer to it as semi pro please.
It’s not unlicensed either, as many are licenced just not by the BBBOC
Who cares what it’s referred to anyway
I do cos when I talk to people and they say ' so you box amateur when do you know if your good enough to go semi pro ' I have to bite my tongue and change the conversation
You fibber.
That has literally never happened, the whole reason that it annoys people is because the whole terminology is designed to take advantage of how little people know about boxing.
It’s not unlicensed either, as many are licenced just not by the BBBOC
Who cares what it’s referred to anyway
I do cos when I talk to people and they say ' so you box amateur when do you know if your good enough to go semi pro ' I have to bite my tongue and change the conversation
You fibber.
That has literally never happened, the whole reason that it annoys people is because the whole terminology is designed to take advantage of how little people know about boxing.
It happened mate and not to long ago. Unlicensed has quite a few shows where I am and me and me barber was talking about boxing and this other man had been to a show and came out with that to me.
smiling assassin wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 03:18
Can we not refer to it as semi pro please.
It’s not unlicensed either, as many are licenced just not by the BBBOC
Who cares what it’s referred to anyway
I do cos when I talk to people and they say ' so you box amateur when do you know if your good enough to go semi pro ' I have to bite my tongue and change the conversation
Technically the terminology is true as when you don’t get paid yiure an amateur . When you get paid but it’s not your profession you’re semi pro.
As far as “good enough” comment goes. If youve boxed 10 fights as a senior amateur and won more than half you’re good enough to beat 75% of semi pros .
I’m going to stick my neck on the line here and say over the next 5 years far more senior amateur boxers will go semi-pro than stay amateur or go pro.
It’s not unlicensed either, as many are licenced just not by the BBBOC
Who cares what it’s referred to anyway
I do cos when I talk to people and they say ' so you box amateur when do you know if your good enough to go semi pro ' I have to bite my tongue and change the conversation
Technically the terminology is true as when you don’t get paid yiure an amateur . When you get paid but it’s not your profession you’re semi pro.
As far as “good enough” comment goes. If youve boxed 10 fights as a senior amateur and won more than half you’re good enough to beat 75% of semi pros .
I’m going to stick my neck on the line here and say over the next 5 years far more senior amateur boxers will go semi-pro than stay amateur or go pro.
I think I actually understood that.
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 02:20
by Oiky
They're not supposed to but a lot do
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 04:11
by TheGman
Wales wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 21:53
Under BBBOC rules can a pro trainer / coach do the same role in the semi pro scene? I know it’s frowned upon/ disallowed for a pro trainer to donsamenrole in amateur scene, but is it same in semi pro scene ??
Never heard of a semi pro boxer,its pro,amateur,unlicences or just white collar. No such thing as semi pro imho but to answer your question from what iv heard,you cant corner an unlicenced event if you are badged by bbb of c
It’s not unlicensed either, as many are licenced just not by the BBBOC
Who cares what it’s referred to anyway
I do cos when I talk to people and they say ' so you box amateur when do you know if your good enough to go semi pro ' I have to bite my tongue and change the conversation
Technically the terminology is true as when you don’t get paid yiure an amateur . When you get paid but it’s not your profession you’re semi pro.
As far as “good enough” comment goes. If youve boxed 10 fights as a senior amateur and won more than half you’re good enough to beat 75% of semi pros .
I’m going to stick my neck on the line here and say over the next 5 years far more senior amateur boxers will go semi-pro than stay amateur or go pro.
Wales wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 21:53
Under BBBOC rules can a pro trainer / coach do the same role in the semi pro scene? I know it’s frowned upon/ disallowed for a pro trainer to donsamenrole in amateur scene, but is it same in semi pro scene ??
Never heard of a semi pro boxer,its pro,amateur,unlicences or just white collar. No such thing as semi pro imho but to answer your question from what iv heard,you cant corner an unlicenced event if you are badged by bbb of c
Well you can but they will suspend you if caught
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 20:10
by Wales
Thanks all. Interesting as the coach I know that’s licenced by BBBOC believes he can do both and claims BBBOC don’t have issue with it
Interesting comments as I , like you guys believed anyone licenced by BBBOC can’t dabble in the semi pro, unlicensed , whatever scene
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 08:14
by olij999
Wales wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 20:10
Thanks all. Interesting as the coach I know that’s licenced by BBBOC believes he can do both and claims BBBOC don’t have issue with it
Interesting comments as I , like you guys believed anyone licenced by BBBOC can’t dabble in the semi pro, unlicensed , whatever scene
May only a matter of time until his Area Council find out - given the amount of internet coverage of all kinds of shows these days, it's usually very easy to find footage or photos of people working in corners at non-BBBofC shows (based on research on one of these kind of cases previously).
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 13:55
by spudder56
leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 13:10
There are at least 3 license holders who run their own unlicensed organisations and titles
leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 13:10
There are at least 3 license holders who run their own unlicensed organisations and titles
There’s a lot more than 3
I’m perfectly happy to accept that there is, it just happens that I know of three license holders running unlicensed organisations, no idea how many more there may be.
Re: Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?
Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 16:17
by Coco
I guess some boards turn a bit of a blind eye.
Most trainers need to earn a living outside of the pro game too.
