WLAD thinks WILDER is very good !
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 23:00
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WLAD thinks WILDER is very good !
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Re: WLAD thinks WILDER is very good !
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 23:11
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Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 23:38
Nothing most logical people didn't already know. That's why this fight needs to happen and soon. There is no clear favorite, it's been a very long time since I've been this excited about a potential HW bout. Probably since Lewis/Tyson (even though I don't feel Wilder or Joshua are quite on their level) and hopefully unlike that fight it happens when both guys are still in their physical prime.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 00:17
Valuable perspective...thanks for that!! 
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Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 00:46
Its why Hearn is afraid of this fight how do you defend against Wilder your game plan could be that just a plan 
This is the BIGGEST fight in Boxing its criminal to offer one fighter $12.5 million in a fight that will bring atleast $60 million when this fight is the fight all of Boxing wants to see that means its a Mega Fight and Mega fight's only eventuate when 2 fighter's NOT 1 are worthy of the $$$$$$$$$ it takes 2 to tango Eddie Hearn you money hungry .sswipe this fight needs to be made ASAP but I bet they fight Tyson Fury first its the easier fight in my opinion for AJ to win AND IT WILL MAKE HIM AS RICH AS FIGHTING WILDER WITH LESS RISK. 
This is the BIGGEST fight in Boxing its criminal to offer one fighter $12.5 million in a fight that will bring atleast $60 million when this fight is the fight all of Boxing wants to see that means its a Mega Fight and Mega fight's only eventuate when 2 fighter's NOT 1 are worthy of the $$$$$$$$$ it takes 2 to tango Eddie Hearn you money hungry .sswipe this fight needs to be made ASAP but I bet they fight Tyson Fury first its the easier fight in my opinion for AJ to win AND IT WILL MAKE HIM AS RICH AS FIGHTING WILDER WITH LESS RISK. Re: WLAD thinks WILDER is very good !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 00:52
so youve gone from 100m to 60m, i guess you came to your senses a bitClivePatrickLyons wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 00:46 Its why Hearn is afraid of this fight how do you defend against Wilder your game plan could be that just a plan
and 60m may well still be millions millions more then they split
Re: WLAD thinks WILDER is very good !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 05:09
$60m doesn't mean $60m to the fighters. Once TV and promoters take their cut, and everyone else gets paid, it probably means about $30-35m to the fighters.ClivePatrickLyons wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 00:46 Its why Hearn is afraid of this fight how do you defend against Wilder your game plan could be that just a plan
That works out as roughly 36-42% to Wilder, which is pretty good for a first offer.
Of course it's not going to be accepted. First offers never are. That's why you go a bit low.
The fight will happen though. The mandatory might come first, but it will happen.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 07:38
I believe that AJ wants this fight bad because he just wants to stop hearing people ask him about it. AJ's a fighter's fighter to me and I think he wants to take on the best and that flies in the face of smart business. There in lies the delicate dance between Fighter/Promoter. Hearn obviously sees something that he doesn't like in Wilder. He'd much rather put Whyte in there to take him out...as he'll be ok with Whyte's stock going down if he can't get it done. But there's something about Wilder that scared Hearn too much to make this happen.
I don't blame him. I have Wilder winning this fight. Wilder's heart is freakish.
I don't blame him. I have Wilder winning this fight. Wilder's heart is freakish.
Re: WLAD thinks WILDER is very good !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 10:59
Some one doesn't understand how business works...ClivePatrickLyons wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 00:46 Its why Hearn is afraid of this fight how do you defend against Wilder your game plan could be that just a plan
Re: WLAD thinks WILDER is very good !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 15:38
I heard he used to beat up Wilder in sparring. Stroking his own ego here, most likely. By the way, Haye has that video of him putting Wilder on queerstreet. Prime-for-prime, I think Haye would kill Wilder.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 15:42
That would be a win-win for me. I can't stand either of those guys
That being said, I'd favor Wilder against any version of Haye...at least the best version of Wilder...which I'd say is the current one.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 15:59
I don't think Wilder is very good. No question he hits extremely hard but that's it. Szpilka had him beat until he got caught. Molina had him beat but then seemed to deliberately back off. I guess he was warned about that. It took a fake ring doctor and referee to save him from Ortiz. And he chickened out of the Povetkin fight. What else? Even Charley Zelinoff said he beat him up and had to run into the locker room to avoid punishing Wilder anymore! Well, i don't know about the last one..
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Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 22:27
They are just actors, probably payed actors of Wilder, his so called fans are breaking all records when it comes to stupidity.punchoutsb wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 10:59Some one doesn't understand how business works...ClivePatrickLyons wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 00:46 Its why Hearn is afraid of this fight how do you defend against Wilder your game plan could be that just a plan
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Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 22:29
+1
Wilder waited for many many years to become this good, while he ducked all the others in their primes.
Re: WLAD thinks WILDER is very good !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 22:56
Nice post Caldo!caldo2025 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 07:38 I believe that AJ wants this fight bad because he just wants to stop hearing people ask him about it. AJ's a fighter's fighter to me and I think he wants to take on the best and that flies in the face of smart business. There in lies the delicate dance between Fighter/Promoter. Hearn obviously sees something that he doesn't like in Wilder. He'd much rather put Whyte in there to take him out...as he'll be ok with Whyte's stock going down if he can't get it done. But there's something about Wilder that scared Hearn too much to make this happen.
I don't blame him. I have Wilder winning this fight. Wilder's heart is freakish.
Re: WLAD thinks WILDER is very good !
Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 01:54
Wilder is dangerous and powerful, I wouldlnt say he's "very good"
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Posted: 19 Apr 2018, 21:08
How about you share with all of us the video of Haye supposedly "putting Wilder on Queer Street" so we can all judge for ourselves whether or not "Haye used to beat up Wilder in sparring".
Sounds like Paul Spadafora "beating Floyd" in their sparring sessions.
Waiting for a LINK to that video!!
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Posted: 19 Apr 2018, 21:28
Yeah, Mexi...I'd like to see that too!Best Coast wrote: ↑19 Apr 2018, 21:08How about you share with all of us the video of Haye supposedly "putting Wilder on Queer Street" so we can all judge for ourselves whether or not "Haye used to beat up Wilder in sparring".
Sounds like Paul Spadafora "beating Floyd" in their sparring sessions.
Waiting for a LINK to that video!!
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Posted: 20 Apr 2018, 05:40
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Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 04:36
Yeah he lacks ring IQIRLangmaid25 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2018, 05:40I agree because there have been times he has crowded himself when trying to finish an opponent rather taking a half step back or to the side.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2018, 22:28
Y'all haven't seen that? I thought everybody's seen that. Haye rocked him a few times, with headgear. Not super badly.oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Apr 2018, 21:28Yeah, Mexi...I'd like to see that too!Best Coast wrote: ↑19 Apr 2018, 21:08How about you share with all of us the video of Haye supposedly "putting Wilder on Queer Street" so we can all judge for ourselves whether or not "Haye used to beat up Wilder in sparring".
Sounds like Paul Spadafora "beating Floyd" in their sparring sessions.
Waiting for a LINK to that video!!
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Of course, Zimnoch also knocked Wilder out in the amateurs. But that's not something I'd be inclined to hold against him unless we're talking about his chin.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2018, 22:39
evgeny romanov knocked him out, zimnoch beat him 23-20
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Posted: 23 Apr 2018, 23:41
I can pick 7 seconds of sparring between pretty much any 2 fighters and make it look like he dominated.Lackeos wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 22:28Y'all haven't seen that? I thought everybody's seen that. Haye rocked him a few times, with headgear. Not super badly.oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Apr 2018, 21:28Yeah, Mexi...I'd like to see that too!Best Coast wrote: ↑19 Apr 2018, 21:08
How about you share with all of us the video of Haye supposedly "putting Wilder on Queer Street" so we can all judge for ourselves whether or not "Haye used to beat up Wilder in sparring".
Sounds like Paul Spadafora "beating Floyd" in their sparring sessions.
Waiting for a LINK to that video!!
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Of course, Zimnoch also knocked Wilder out in the amateurs. But that's not something I'd be inclined to hold against him unless we're talking about his chin.
This video proves nothing
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Posted: 23 Apr 2018, 23:48
spaddy did get the better of floyd in that sparring session and its on video. of course floyds a way better fighter with a way better career,but the issue was never a lack of evidence for that particular sparring session
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Posted: 23 Apr 2018, 23:51
tiny_acres wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 23:41I can pick 7 seconds of sparring between pretty much any 2 fighters and make it look like he dominated.Lackeos wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 22:28Y'all haven't seen that? I thought everybody's seen that. Haye rocked him a few times, with headgear. Not super badly.
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Of course, Zimnoch also knocked Wilder out in the amateurs. But that's not something I'd be inclined to hold against him unless we're talking about his chin.
This video proves nothing
that video proves haye rocked him in sparring, even if it was very favourably edited. i dont place much significance in it but it shows it happened. of course wilder may have ktfo him but there not gonna show that
the tall guy in the preview shot in the left corner said wilder beat up haye, fwiw