The mw division is getting stronger and stronger. Can't wait for the Jacobs - Jermall Charlo fight!

[apollo creed]

A few years ago the mw division was weak with top fighters avoiding each other but atm it seems like some good fights are going to happen.

[SenorPipino]

After last night I'd be surprised if Hearn lets his Miracle Man anywhere near Charlo.

I'm not completely sold on Charlo. His resume at 160 is thin. And it's not like he destroyed a battalion of greats at super welter either.

But the potential is there for Charlo to quickly take out Jacobs, who seems to be living off his blowout of the now mostly vanished Quillin, and his 12 rounds with Golovkin.

Hearn will find a safer alternative for Jacobs. One that doesn't involve tangling with any talented, dangerous young guns.

[Best Coast]

After last night I'd be surprised if Hearn lets his Miracle Man anywhere near Charlo.

I'm not completely sold on Charlo. His resume at 160 is thin. And it's not like he destroyed a battalion of greats at super welter either.

But the potential is there for Charlo to quickly take out Jacobs, who seems to be living off his blowout of the now mostly vanished Quillin, and his 12 rounds with Golovkin.

Hearn will find a safer alternative for Jacobs. One that doesn't involve tangling with any talented, dangerous young guns.

Agreed that Hearn will not allow Jacobs to face Charlo, whose resume as WBC Interim MW Champ is far from sensational but much stronger than IBF mandatory Sergey Derevyanchenko.

Derevyan's shallow pro credentials consists of just 12 bouts and ONE quality opponent...Tureano Johnson:
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/691996

As GGG's WBC mandatory, Jermall is clearly more deserving of a shot at Golovkin than Sergey is:
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/471634

I honestly would expect GGG more likely to go against the more untested Ukrainian than Charlo. At age 36, Golovkin is more cautious than in his younger days.

[jamamb]

your going to work that derevchanko post into as many threads as you can arent you

but ya jacobs-charlo would be excellent, better then jacobs vs sulecki or charlo vs suleckis leftovers (hugo)

but there both mandatories, wouldnt surprise me if they dont have any big fights till a shot happens. maybe neither want to take much of a chance till then, hence guys like hugo

[Best Coast]

your going to work that derevchanko post into as many threads as you can arent you

You better believe it!!

Call me an unpaid "lobbyist" for Charlo-GGG but I really believe Jermall has an excellent chance to beat Gennady. I just hope he gets his chance to face GGG, but I will not be at all surprised in Golovkin rides off into the sunset without facing ANY of the numerous young guns rising onto the scene. (Charlo, Saunders, Murata (not young but legit), Derevyan, etc)

For years we heard that "everyone" was avoiding GGG and now we get to see how he handles it now that he's in a position to take on these young bucks. The names that were actually considered to fill in for Canelo were frankly laughable...Munguia, O'Sullivan. Even Martirosyan is a step up from those 2 clowns.

[jamamb]

canelo is an elite young buck and id guess ggg will fight him this year after the rematches first date got scrapped due to canelo. i think canelo will win and there wont be an issue of ggg defending vs younger guys after that

i want to see young bucks fight each other too and not spend much longer on weak opposition. fighting weakies while you wait for a shot can also be construed as not wanting to take chances

[apollo creed]

After last night I'd be surprised if Hearn lets his Miracle Man anywhere near Charlo.

I'm not completely sold on Charlo. His resume at 160 is thin. And it's not like he destroyed a battalion of greats at super welter either.

But the potential is there for Charlo to quickly take out Jacobs, who seems to be living off his blowout of the now mostly vanished Quillin, and his 12 rounds with Golovkin.

Hearn will find a safer alternative for Jacobs. One that doesn't involve tangling with any talented, dangerous young guns.

Belive it or not but Jermall is Danny's biggest fight atm. In Brooklyn it would do good numbers. Golovkin is old and his no. 1 priority is to rematch Canelo in September and get that big retirement jackpot.

[Enlightened-One]

The Canelo-Golovkin rematch is holding up the rest of the middleweight division, unless GGG starts getting strips of his titles whilst he’s waiting to face Alvarez again.

All the 160lbs young guns are waiting for their opportunities for a big payday, by facing the likes of Canelo or GGG, or their shot at a vacant world title, whichever comes first.

I don’t expect the likes of Derevyanchenko, Charlo, Saunders, Andrade and Jacobs to engage in interim high-risk low-return bouts against each other whilst we're waiting for the GGG-Canelo situation to play out.

[apollo creed]

The Canelo-Golovkin rematch is holding up the rest of the middleweight division, unless GGG starts getting strips of his titles whilst he’s waiting to face Alvarez again.

All the 160lbs young guns are waiting for their opportunities for a big payday, by facing the likes of Canelo or GGG, or their shot at a vacant world title, whichever comes first.

I don’t expect the likes of Derevyanchenko, Charlo, Saunders, Andrade and Jacobs to engage in interim high-risk low-return bouts against each other whilst we're waiting for the GGG-Canelo situation to play out.

Belts are less important nowadays. Fight the best in your division, win and then your paydays will go up.

[Enlightened-One]

The Canelo-Golovkin rematch is holding up the rest of the middleweight division, unless GGG starts getting strips of his titles whilst he’s waiting to face Alvarez again.

All the 160lbs young guns are waiting for their opportunities for a big payday, by facing the likes of Canelo or GGG, or their shot at a vacant world title, whichever comes first.

I don’t expect the likes of Derevyanchenko, Charlo, Saunders, Andrade and Jacobs to engage in interim high-risk low-return bouts against each other whilst we're waiting for the GGG-Canelo situation to play out.

Belts are less important nowadays. Fight the best in your division, win and then your paydays will go up.

You’ve described the ideal situation, which unfortunately isn’t reflected in reality.

The priority of Derevyanchenko, Charlo, Saunders, Andrade and Jacobs is to engage in big money fights against Canelo or GGG, with world title fights considered as being of secondary importance.

The prestige of proving themselves against their world-class peers, by participating in high-risk low-return bouts, solely for the sake of achieving sporting goals, will not be contemplated.

[apollo creed]

The Canelo-Golovkin rematch is holding up the rest of the middleweight division, unless GGG starts getting strips of his titles whilst he’s waiting to face Alvarez again.

All the 160lbs young guns are waiting for their opportunities for a big payday, by facing the likes of Canelo or GGG, or their shot at a vacant world title, whichever comes first.

I don’t expect the likes of Derevyanchenko, Charlo, Saunders, Andrade and Jacobs to engage in interim high-risk low-return bouts against each other whilst we're waiting for the GGG-Canelo situation to play out.

Belts are less important nowadays. Fight the best in your division, win and then your paydays will go up.

You’ve described the ideal situation, which unfortunately isn’t reflected in reality.

The priority of Derevyanchenko, Charlo, Saunders, Andrade and Jacobs is to engage in big money fights against Canelo or GGG, with world title fights considered as being of secondary importance.

The prestige of proving themselves against their world-class peers, by participating in high-risk low-return bouts, solely for the sake of achieving sporting goals, will not be contemplated.

Well they would have to wait and waste their prime. If Canelo - GGG rematch is competitive enough with a close decision I don't see why they wouldn't make the third fight regardless if the belts are on the table or not.

[Enlightened-One]

Belts are less important nowadays. Fight the best in your division, win and then your paydays will go up.

You’ve described the ideal situation, which unfortunately isn’t reflected in reality.

The priority of Derevyanchenko, Charlo, Saunders, Andrade and Jacobs is to engage in big money fights against Canelo or GGG, with world title fights considered as being of secondary importance.

The prestige of proving themselves against their world-class peers, by participating in high-risk low-return bouts, solely for the sake of achieving sporting goals, will not be contemplated.

Well they would have to wait and waste their prime. If Canelo - GGG rematch is competitive enough with a close decision I don't see why they wouldn't make the third fight regardless if the belts are on the table or not.

If Canelo & GGG decide to make a trilogy, which they may decide to do if there’s enough money to be made from it, then I’d expect a few of the following things to take place within the next twelve months or so:

• GGG gets stripped of numerous titles
• Derevyanchenko vs. Jacobs for the vacant IBF belt (same trainer so may not happen & the American may be too large to abide by that organisations weigh-in rules)
• Murata vs. Jacobs (perhaps) for the regular WBA belt
• Billy Joe Saunders vs. James DeGale (IBF) or George Groves (WBA) in catch weight bouts at super-middleweight. The Brit won’t attempt to perform a mandatory defence of his WBO title against an opponent like Andrade until he’s forced to
• Jermall Charlo to be announced as the new WBC champion and eventually engage in a title unification against fellow Haymon stablemate Danny Jacobs