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Nathan Gorman

Posted: 08 May 2018, 18:21
by Taansend
How far do you think he can go? I've seen highlights of his fights & been very impressed. Not yet 22 too.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 08 May 2018, 18:46
by leejonesjnr
Not going to be a world champion but British is achievable as he is still a baby and can wait until the likes of JJ Have moved on

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 08 May 2018, 18:48
by jamamb
he looks solid but i cant say hes really stood out as a super prospect or anything like that. quick snappy hands and good body punching. a bit stiff legged and maybe plodding at times though. not that big for a hw and obviously flabby.

ill have to check out the sokolowski fight though, thats a really good result to stop him but i havent watched it

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 08 May 2018, 19:24
by BitPlayer
leejonesjnr wrote: 08 May 2018, 18:46 Not going to be a world champion but British is achievable as he is still a baby and can wait until the likes of JJ Have moved on
Probably not world, but I think he could go beyond British.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 08 May 2018, 19:49
by oogiebe
BitPlayer wrote: 08 May 2018, 19:24
leejonesjnr wrote: 08 May 2018, 18:46 Not going to be a world champion but British is achievable as he is still a baby and can wait until the likes of JJ Have moved on
Probably not world, but I think he could go beyond British.
I don't...too soft.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 08 May 2018, 20:17
by ElJefe
oogiebe wrote: 08 May 2018, 19:49
BitPlayer wrote: 08 May 2018, 19:24
leejonesjnr wrote: 08 May 2018, 18:46 Not going to be a world champion but British is achievable as he is still a baby and can wait until the likes of JJ Have moved on
Probably not world, but I think he could go beyond British.
I don't...too soft.
If the likes of Teper, Helenius and Kabayel can win the European title then I see no reason why Gorman couldn't in a year or 2. I don't mean that in a derogatory way towards those 3, I actually think Kabayel is quite good (the other 2 not so much).

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 08 May 2018, 20:56
by oogiebe
ElJefe wrote: 08 May 2018, 20:17
oogiebe wrote: 08 May 2018, 19:49
BitPlayer wrote: 08 May 2018, 19:24

Probably not world, but I think he could go beyond British.
I don't...too soft.
If the likes of Teper, Helenius and Kabayel can win the European title then I see no reason why Gorman couldn't in a year or 2. I don't mean that in a derogatory way towards those 3, I actually think Kabayel is quite good (the other 2 not so much).
Good point; Fair point. You could very well be right. We all need to see more of him, though.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 08 May 2018, 21:48
by TheLeprechaun
Doesnt look like he has the discipline to go far. Carrying around way too much fat. Seems like the kind who will always be a fat fighter

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 08 May 2018, 23:00
by Taansend
ElJefe wrote: 08 May 2018, 20:17
oogiebe wrote: 08 May 2018, 19:49
BitPlayer wrote: 08 May 2018, 19:24

Probably not world, but I think he could go beyond British.
I don't...too soft.
If the likes of Teper, Helenius and Kabayel can win the European title then I see no reason why Gorman couldn't in a year or 2. I don't mean that in a derogatory way towards those 3, I actually think Kabayel is quite good (the other 2 not so much).
When Helenius beat Sam Peter I thought "Whoa, we have a serious contender here". Then it all went Pete Tong against Chisora. He had Del Boy hurt in the 1st round but broke his hand & got a gift decision.

Anyway, back to Gorman, the people saying he's too soft - do you think he'd go further with a better physique?

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 01:44
by dirk2686
Taansend wrote: 08 May 2018, 23:00
ElJefe wrote: 08 May 2018, 20:17
oogiebe wrote: 08 May 2018, 19:49

I don't...too soft.
If the likes of Teper, Helenius and Kabayel can win the European title then I see no reason why Gorman couldn't in a year or 2. I don't mean that in a derogatory way towards those 3, I actually think Kabayel is quite good (the other 2 not so much).
When Helenius beat Sam Peter I thought "Whoa, we have a serious contender here". Then it all went Pete Tong against Chisora. He had Del Boy hurt in the 1st round but broke his hand & got a gift decision.

Anyway, back to Gorman, the people saying he's too soft - do you think he'd go further with a better physique?
Not saying he needs to look like a bodybuilder, but he's a young lad and a professional athlete - he shouldn't be fat. If you saw him on the beach on holiday you'd think he was a fat lad who likes his beer and burgers.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 02:04
by leejonesjnr
I don’t know why people talk about the British title as if it’s a poor level to reach.
Saying that a boxer will probably win it is not an insult and posters in a boxing forum should realise what an achievement it is.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 07:22
by BitPlayer
oogiebe wrote: 08 May 2018, 19:49
BitPlayer wrote: 08 May 2018, 19:24
leejonesjnr wrote: 08 May 2018, 18:46 Not going to be a world champion but British is achievable as he is still a baby and can wait until the likes of JJ Have moved on
Probably not world, but I think he could go beyond British.
I don't...too soft.
Half the top 10 is obese.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 07:23
by BitPlayer
Taansend wrote: 08 May 2018, 23:00
ElJefe wrote: 08 May 2018, 20:17
oogiebe wrote: 08 May 2018, 19:49

I don't...too soft.
If the likes of Teper, Helenius and Kabayel can win the European title then I see no reason why Gorman couldn't in a year or 2. I don't mean that in a derogatory way towards those 3, I actually think Kabayel is quite good (the other 2 not so much).
When Helenius beat Sam Peter I thought "Whoa, we have a serious contender here". Then it all went Pete Tong against Chisora. He had Del Boy hurt in the 1st round but broke his hand & got a gift decision.

Anyway, back to Gorman, the people saying he's too soft - do you think he'd go further with a better physique?
Rewartching it, I think he actually lost the first round, he actually barely landed.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 09:49
by oogiebe
Taansend wrote: 08 May 2018, 23:00
ElJefe wrote: 08 May 2018, 20:17
oogiebe wrote: 08 May 2018, 19:49

I don't...too soft.
If the likes of Teper, Helenius and Kabayel can win the European title then I see no reason why Gorman couldn't in a year or 2. I don't mean that in a derogatory way towards those 3, I actually think Kabayel is quite good (the other 2 not so much).
When Helenius beat Sam Peter I thought "Whoa, we have a serious contender here". Then it all went Pete Tong against Chisora. He had Del Boy hurt in the 1st round but broke his hand & got a gift decision.

Anyway, back to Gorman, the people saying he's too soft - do you think he'd go further with a better physique?
LOL! No, his physique is genetics. Someone else mentioned some pretty good fighters before who were 'soft' looking: Arreola, etc. So no. He just looked plodding and no better than a lot of guys coming up. Nothing special. However; things can always change.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 10:15
by ElJefe
FW just announced that he's fighting Sean Turner on the Fury card.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 10:40
by Taansend
BitPlayer wrote: 09 May 2018, 07:23
Taansend wrote: 08 May 2018, 23:00
ElJefe wrote: 08 May 2018, 20:17

If the likes of Teper, Helenius and Kabayel can win the European title then I see no reason why Gorman couldn't in a year or 2. I don't mean that in a derogatory way towards those 3, I actually think Kabayel is quite good (the other 2 not so much).
When Helenius beat Sam Peter I thought "Whoa, we have a serious contender here". Then it all went Pete Tong against Chisora. He had Del Boy hurt in the 1st round but broke his hand & got a gift decision.

Anyway, back to Gorman, the people saying he's too soft - do you think he'd go further with a better physique?
Rewartching it, I think he actually lost the first round, he actually barely landed.
Haven't watched it since it happened Mate.

I just remember thinking Del was in trouble during the first round

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 10:41
by oogiebe
Taansend wrote: 09 May 2018, 10:40
BitPlayer wrote: 09 May 2018, 07:23
Taansend wrote: 08 May 2018, 23:00

When Helenius beat Sam Peter I thought "Whoa, we have a serious contender here". Then it all went Pete Tong against Chisora. He had Del Boy hurt in the 1st round but broke his hand & got a gift decision.

Anyway, back to Gorman, the people saying he's too soft - do you think he'd go further with a better physique?
Rewartching it, I think he actually lost the first round, he actually barely landed.
Haven't watched it since it happened Mate.

I just remember thinking Del was in trouble during the first round
Kabayel is a 'comer' imho.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 10:44
by jamamb
as i recall del dominated that round until the last 15 seconds or so . where he got tagged and retreated. i did beleve he seemed slightly buzzed but he was so in control apart from that that i stll gave him the round

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 11:52
by tobyh5
There are always fighters who are the exception which proves the rule but it is not that he is fat which means his future is limited but the reason why he is fat being an indicator to a lot of other things

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 11:52
by oogiebe
tobyh5 wrote: 09 May 2018, 11:52 There are always fighters who are the exception which proves the rule but it is not that he is fat which means his future is limited but the reason why he is fat being an indicator to a lot of other things
:TU:

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 12:24
by Taansend
tobyh5 wrote: 09 May 2018, 11:52 There are always fighters who are the exception which proves the rule but it is not that he is fat which means his future is limited but the reason why he is fat being an indicator to a lot of other things
I get what you're saying but I don't see him as that fat. He could be in better shape in regards to muscle & body fat ratio but if Hatton is training him then you know he's being put through the mill when in camp.

It's not like he's Andy Ruiz... Plus he's only 21. Still developing into a man.

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Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 12:55
by BitPlayer
Taansend wrote: 09 May 2018, 10:40
BitPlayer wrote: 09 May 2018, 07:23
Taansend wrote: 08 May 2018, 23:00

When Helenius beat Sam Peter I thought "Whoa, we have a serious contender here". Then it all went Pete Tong against Chisora. He had Del Boy hurt in the 1st round but broke his hand & got a gift decision.

Anyway, back to Gorman, the people saying he's too soft - do you think he'd go further with a better physique?
Rewartching it, I think he actually lost the first round, he actually barely landed.
Haven't watched it since it happened Mate.

I just remember thinking Del was in trouble during the first round
It's on YouTube. Watch the first round and see what you think.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 12:58
by jamamb
in terms of the fatness i dont think him being 21 is somehow a good thing, its more common to add flab then to muscle up and trim down with age.

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 13:04
by jamamb
watching del-helenius again id gotten the times mixed up. del defo seemed a bit buzzed by a right high on the head, but that happened about halfway through the round rather then at the end. del for the most part was in control that round though and it was only a very short period where he looked iffy..

Re: Nathan Gorman

Posted: 09 May 2018, 13:09
by Taansend
BitPlayer wrote: 09 May 2018, 12:55
Taansend wrote: 09 May 2018, 10:40
BitPlayer wrote: 09 May 2018, 07:23

Rewartching it, I think he actually lost the first round, he actually barely landed.
Haven't watched it since it happened Mate.

I just remember thinking Del was in trouble during the first round
It's on YouTube. Watch the first round and see what you think.
Cheers Mate :TU:

Del Boys best performance?

Not quite how I remembered it then. Nice even round. Two determined fighters trying to impose their style.