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Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 06:39
by TheLeprechaun
I thought Loma would beat Garcia before the Linares fight but considering that Garcia does everything better than Linares, I think Garcia would cause Loma some serious problems. I pick Garcia to win. Garcia has timing, he can time Loma sidesteps and head movement and land pinpoint right hands. Lomachenko will be in with a concussive puncher here. Coming in at 138 pounds vs Linares is very small indeed. It's a tough fight, both guys are too good to get shut out. Although we would have said that a prime James Toney is too good to lose every round of a fight and that is exactly what happened vs Roy Jones.
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 07:01
by DrDuke
I favoured Loma against Garcia before the Linares fight, but, I guess, I favoured him less, than the most of people did. I thought, it would have appeared to be competetive bout. Now, after the Linares fight, I still slightly favour Loma, I'm just more sure, that it will be a tough fight for both of them.
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 07:03
by BitPlayer
I think Loma would outbox him, but Garcia would hit too hard, and eventually get the KO, unless Loma really learns to fight safer.
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 07:07
by Boxerbeetle
No, I’ve always favoured Garcia in that matchup, last night certainly didn’t change my mind. Tough fight for both men obviously, but Garcia is just too big for Loma imo.
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 07:09
by Yes We Can
BitPlayer wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 07:03
I think Loma would outbox him, but Garcia would hit too hard, and eventually get the KO, unless Loma really learns to fight safer.
I think that's the key, Lima has the ability, speed and everything else to make Garcia and anyone else miss all night if he wanted to.
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 07:59
by Ruthless-RKO
I think Garcia will be too big for Loma.
I don't think Loma drops Garcia either ...
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 10:23
by Horse
Lomachenko should stay at lightweight for awhile.
Garcia can wait.
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 10:25
by Stuarty
Horse wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 10:23
Lomachenko should stay at lightweight for awhile.
Garcia can wait.
Isn't Garcia going back to 135 though?
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 10:32
by Horse
Stuarty wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 10:25Isn't Garcia going back to 135 though?
Is he?
Well, he should fight him then.
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 10:35
by Stuarty
Horse wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 10:32
Stuarty wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 10:25Isn't Garcia going back to 135 though?
Is he?
Well, he should fight him then.
I'm sure I read somewhere he was going back down to 135 and was vacating his 140 strap. Might get to see the fight next after all

Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 10:59
by Taansend
All depends on weight.
We saw a 138 pound Lomachenko stop a 153 pound Linares last night.
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 14:04
by Datsue
Stuarty wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 10:35
Horse wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 10:32
Stuarty wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 10:25Isn't Garcia going back to 135 though?
Is he?
Well, he should fight him then.
I'm sure I read somewhere he was going back down to 135 and was vacating his 140 strap. Might get to see the fight next after all
Garcia fights the lanky Robert Easter (dude who beat Commey & Shafikov) for the latter's IBF belt on 28th July.
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 14:06
by jamamb
loma is too small
for lw hes not tall, has a very short reach, and 138 on fight night will see him probably at least around 10 pounds less then any of the top guys
stopping 15 pound heavier linares shows his excellent ability, but imo the moments linares had shows that lw isnt likely lomas best weight. the shot that dropped im not so sure he was even hurt as much as it was a much bigger guy almost 'pushing' him down with the shot
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 14:17
by Deserter
I'd really like to see Loma drop back down - there's too much pressure in this era for fighters to prove their credentials by rising through the divisions rather than simply becoming king of their natural weight class and maintaining that dominance.
Despite last night's win he clearly isn't a natural Lightweight and I wouldn't be shocked if he could still make Featherweight even. I'd happily see him take care of the likes of Davis and Berchelt, rather than lose to a technically inferior fighter because he's fighting way out of his weight class.
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 14:18
by jamamb
i agree, davis and berchelt are unfinished business at 130. loma wasnt really even that big at 126. giving up a stone at lightweight is huge, and i dont think linares is even the biggest lw
id guess hell at least unify vs beltran at 135, but he might go down later. the linares fight couldve been a wake up call in terms of weight and also maybe not clowning so much
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 14:30
by Stuarty
Datsue wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 14:04
Stuarty wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 10:35
Horse wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 10:32
Is he?
Well, he should fight him then.
I'm sure I read somewhere he was going back down to 135 and was vacating his 140 strap. Might get to see the fight next after all
Garcia fights the lanky Robert Easter (dude who beat Commey & Shafikov) for the latter's IBF belt on 28th July.
Thanks mate

I'd forgotten all about that!
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 15:03
by lefthook82
thought garcia would beat him beforehand, certain of it now
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 15:11
by jamamb
lefthook82 wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 15:03
thought garcia would beat him beforehand, certain of it now
who do you think would win loma vs berchelt and loma vs davis?
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 15:20
by jamamb
does anyone from 126-135 beside garcia beat loma
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 15:39
by Boxerbeetle
jamamb wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 15:20
does anyone aside from 126-135 beside garcia beat loma
No
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 15:51
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 15:20
does anyone from 126-135 beside garcia beat loma
Maybe but not so sure Garcia beats him.
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 15:57
by TheLeprechaun
I think Garcia is arguably the best at 140 too if he stays there. The point is I can see loma hanging with 140 pounders, although size becomes even more of a problem. I don't see someone like broner having much chance with loma, even with his size. Its when you get to the top 147 pounders like Spence that you can say loma is a pretty heavy underdog.
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 16:00
by TheLeprechaun
Skybet going 1/4 loma vs 11/4 Garcia
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Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 16:02
by oogiebe
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 16:00
Skybet going 1/4 loma vs 11/4 Garcia
Betting is a completely different animal. What are the odds for Garcia KO? Loma KO? Garcia Dec? Loma Dec?
Re: Did you change your mind on Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia
Posted: 13 May 2018, 16:02
by jamamb
would absolutely slam garca at those odds. although hardly a sure thing the fight happens imo