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Linares-What now?

Posted: 15 May 2018, 23:55
by jpspice
Despite losing to loma, Linares is still in my eyes viable in the light and super lightweight divisions. I think he would beat all of the current champions aside from Garcia and Crawford, both of whom he would be a competitive opponent against; I wouldn't count him out against either of them. He's the first guy to expose really any weakness in loma,(the Salido fight doesn't really count in my mind) So, unless he is gonna retire,where does he go from here?

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 00:03
by gilgamesh
jpspice wrote: 15 May 2018, 23:55 Despite losing to loma, Linares is still in my eyes viable in the light and super lightweight divisions. I think he would beat all of the current champions aside from Garcia and Crawford, both of whom he would be a competitive opponent against; I wouldn't count him out against either of them. He's the first guy to expose really any weakness in loma,(the Salido fight doesn't really count in my mind) So, unless he is gonna retire,where does he go from here?
Why doesn't the Salido fight count? The Salido fight exposed Loma's MAIN weakness. Mauling, pressure fighters that simply attack, and don't care if they look good or not.

That being said I'd say Linares just kinda hovers as a solid contender for another few years. MAYBE picks up another belt, but it'll be tougher for him from here on out.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 00:11
by Taansend
He's a big name in the UK so could command a decent purse there, whether he fights a British fighter or not.

Doesn't he also live in Japan? Maybe a fight against unbeaten Japanese 140 fighter Hiroki Okada.

In the days when there's half a dozen 'world' title belts in each division a man of his class won't have to be on the sidelines long.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 00:15
by Mexi-Box
He actually did very well against Lomachenko. Surprised at the wide scorecards I saw on the RbR. He had Lomachenko buzzed at least 3 times in the fight.

A loss is simply a loss. Everyone that fights at a high level loses, but Linares did very well for himself.

I think a good fight for him would be Zlaticanin. I remember a lot were favoring Zlaticanin when they were the top 2 fighters a long time ago. It'd be great to see that fight.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 00:17
by gilgamesh
Mexi-Box wrote: 16 May 2018, 00:15 He actually did very well against Lomachenko. Surprised at the wide scorecards I saw on the RbR. He had Lomachenko buzzed at least 3 times in the fight.

A loss is simply a loss. Everyone that fights at a high level loses, but Linares did very well for himself.

I think a good fight for him would be Zlaticanin. I remember a lot were favoring Zlaticanin when they were the top 2 fighters a long time ago. It'd be great to see that fight.
Hell yeah I'd be down to see that :TU:

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 04:51
by Ruthless-RKO
He's top 3 at lightweight no doubt alongside Garcia and Loma.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 05:10
by Cent0089
He should fight Ray Beltran :box: :box: :box:

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 05:32
by DrDuke
Mexi-Box wrote: 16 May 2018, 00:15 I think a good fight for him would be Zlaticanin. I remember a lot were favoring Zlaticanin when they were the top 2 fighters a long time ago. It'd be great to see that fight.
A good match-up.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 05:54
by Ruthless-RKO
Dejan Zlaticanin is a good fight for him..

We'll have to see where he ends up on the WBO, WBC and IBF rankings by next month. See what route he can take.

Ray Beltran is being set up for Loma

Richard Commey would be a good fight.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 12:49
by Mexi-Box
Cent0089 wrote: 16 May 2018, 05:10 He should fight Ray Beltran :box: :box: :box:
By the way, that'd be a horrific style matchup. Linares has so much trouble with tough, Mexicans pressure fighters. To top it off, Beltran is enormous and hits hard.

Funny enough, Carl Frampton also looks horrific against Mexicans. :lol:

Honestly, I would keep Linares well away from Beltran.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 12:52
by klitoris
Should join the WBSS 140 tournament that is being currently planned.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 16:32
by SenorPipino
Put him in with the loser of Garcia-Easter and go from there.

He beats Beltran, who seems like an ordinary guy who was maneuvered into a title shot because he has a backstory.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 16:40
by SenorPipino
jpspice wrote: 15 May 2018, 23:55 Despite losing to loma, Linares is still in my eyes viable in the light and super lightweight divisions. I think he would beat all of the current champions aside from Garcia and Crawford, both of whom he would be a competitive opponent against; I wouldn't count him out against either of them. He's the first guy to expose really any weakness in loma,(the Salido fight doesn't really count in my mind) So, unless he is gonna retire,where does he go from here?

Wht do you still include Crawford?

He left the lightweight division quite a while back.

He even fights for one of the welterweight championships next month.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 21:11
by Mexi-Box
SenorPipino wrote: 16 May 2018, 16:32 Put him in with the loser of Garcia-Easter and go from there.

He beats Beltran, who seems like an ordinary guy who was maneuvered into a title shot because he has a backstory.
You say some of the dumbest things on these boards. Your posts give me cancer.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 21:56
by KiwiRider
He is the #3 and earned that position, anyone below is in for a tough night if they get in the ring with him.
As for the future, I would like to see a rematch with Campbell sometime, I also want someone to clean Easter Jr's clock and I don't care who, Linares will do nicely.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 22:12
by SenorPipino
Mexi-Box wrote: 16 May 2018, 21:11
SenorPipino wrote: 16 May 2018, 16:32 Put him in with the loser of Garcia-Easter and go from there.

He beats Beltran, who seems like an ordinary guy who was maneuvered into a title shot because he has a backstory.
You say some of the dumbest things on these boards. Your posts give me cancer.
Are you dead yet?

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 22:16
by SenorPipino
KiwiRider wrote: 16 May 2018, 21:56 He is the #3 and earned that position, anyone below is in for a tough night if they get in the ring with him.
As for the future, I would like to see a rematch with Campbell sometime, I also want someone to clean Easter Jr's clock and I don't care who, Linares will do nicely.

Easter will apparently get his clock cleaned by Garcia in late July at L.A.'s Staples Center.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 16 May 2018, 23:36
by jpspice
SenorPipino wrote: 16 May 2018, 16:40
jpspice wrote: 15 May 2018, 23:55 Despite losing to loma, Linares is still in my eyes viable in the light and super lightweight divisions. I think he would beat all of the current champions aside from Garcia and Crawford, both of whom he would be a competitive opponent against; I wouldn't count him out against either of them. He's the first guy to expose really any weakness in loma,(the Salido fight doesn't really count in my mind) So, unless he is gonna retire,where does he go from here?

Wht do you still include Crawford?

He left the lightweight division quite a while back.

He even fights for one of the welterweight championships next month.
He's holding a SL belt, is he moving up to welter for good?

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 17 May 2018, 12:17
by ValMar
klitoris wrote: 16 May 2018, 12:52 Should join the WBSS 140 tournament that is being currently planned.
This might be a good idea..................

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 17 May 2018, 12:19
by oogiebe
ValMar wrote: 17 May 2018, 12:17
klitoris wrote: 16 May 2018, 12:52 Should join the WBSS 140 tournament that is being currently planned.
This might be a good idea..................
Agreed! 100%

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 17 May 2018, 15:41
by Mexi-Box
:OhYes: On what planet would a 140 lb. tournament be a good idea for a former once-beaten champion? C'mon guys, that'd be a stupid idea.

Linares does great numbers and viewers in Britain. Worst comes to worst, a rematch with one of those domestic-level Brits would be the best thing for his career.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 17 May 2018, 15:44
by oogiebe
Mexi-Box wrote: 17 May 2018, 15:41 :OhYes: On what planet would a 140 lb. tournament be a good idea for a former once-beaten champion? C'mon guys, that'd be a stupid idea.

Linares does great numbers and viewers in Britain. Worst comes to worst, a rematch with one of those domestic-level Brits would be the best thing for his career.
It's not stupid if it sells.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 17 May 2018, 15:48
by Mexi-Box
oogiebe wrote: 17 May 2018, 15:44
Mexi-Box wrote: 17 May 2018, 15:41 :OhYes: On what planet would a 140 lb. tournament be a good idea for a former once-beaten champion? C'mon guys, that'd be a stupid idea.

Linares does great numbers and viewers in Britain. Worst comes to worst, a rematch with one of those domestic-level Brits would be the best thing for his career.
It's not stupid if it sells.
Well, the CW tournament certainly doesn't seem to be selling much. The SMW tournament is selling on that domestic British level, though, which feeds into my post about him staying on that domestic gauntlet.

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 17 May 2018, 15:56
by oogiebe
Mexi-Box wrote: 17 May 2018, 15:48
oogiebe wrote: 17 May 2018, 15:44
Mexi-Box wrote: 17 May 2018, 15:41 :OhYes: On what planet would a 140 lb. tournament be a good idea for a former once-beaten champion? C'mon guys, that'd be a stupid idea.

Linares does great numbers and viewers in Britain. Worst comes to worst, a rematch with one of those domestic-level Brits would be the best thing for his career.
It's not stupid if it sells.
Well, the CW tournament certainly doesn't seem to be selling much. The SMW tournament is selling on that domestic British level, though, which feeds into my post about him staying on that domestic gauntlet.
You might just be righ! :OhYes:

Re: Linares-What now?

Posted: 17 May 2018, 16:00
by boxing_rocks
gilgamesh wrote: 16 May 2018, 00:03
jpspice wrote: 15 May 2018, 23:55 Despite losing to loma, Linares is still in my eyes viable in the light and super lightweight divisions. I think he would beat all of the current champions aside from Garcia and Crawford, both of whom he would be a competitive opponent against; I wouldn't count him out against either of them. He's the first guy to expose really any weakness in loma,(the Salido fight doesn't really count in my mind) So, unless he is gonna retire,where does he go from here?
Why doesn't the Salido fight count? The Salido fight exposed Loma's MAIN weakness. Mauling, pressure fighters that simply attack, and don't care if they look good or not.

That being said I'd say Linares just kinda hovers as a solid contender for another few years. MAYBE picks up another belt, but it'll be tougher for him from here on out.
The only Loma's weakness Salido fight exposed was his lack of pro experience. The same tactics used by Salido now wouldn't work.