WBC Prez: If No Canelo then it has to be Jermall Charlo Next for Golovkin

[mexicool]

The Canelo-Golovkin Rematch is having financial issues and deal is still uncertain to be reached. So If this fight (Golovkin Vs Charlo) actually gets materialized then no doubt should be a terrific fight at least on paper and it’s even better than the Derevyachenko fight and Jacobs’ Rematch

[jamamb]

either way ggg loses , whether to canelo or charlo

abel sanchez was talking up going to japan for murata and you know why

[dickbelden]

either way ggg loses , whether to canelo or charlo

abel sanchez was talking up going to japan for murata and you know why

u had CANELO beating GGG in the 1st fight ?

[SenorPipino]

So Golovkin has to fight Charlo next by WBC decree if no Canelo?

And he also has to fight Derevyanchenko next by IBF decree?

How does that work.?

A triple threat match?

[mexicool]

Canelo Vs Jacobs

Golovkin Vs Charlo

Saunders Vs Andrade

Lemieux Vs O’Sullivan

Derevyachenko Vs Murata

Middleweight division is stacked already.. Jarrett Hurd And Munguía are going to 160 next year as well

[SenorPipino]

Canelo Vs Jacobs

Golovkin Vs Charlo

Saunders Vs Andrade

Lemieux Vs O’Sullivan

Derevyachenko Vs Murata

Middleweight division is stacked already.. Jarrett Hurd And Munguía are going to 160 next year as well

That would make a nice PPV card.

Only BJS vs Andrade has the potential to be a stinker.

[pablothunder]

Canelo Vs Jacobs

Golovkin Vs Charlo

Saunders Vs Andrade

Lemieux Vs O’Sullivan

Derevyachenko Vs Murata

Middleweight division is stacked already.. Jarrett Hurd And Munguía are going to 160 next year as well

That would make a nice PPV card.

Only BJS vs Andrade has the potential to be a stinker.

BJS vs Andrade?! Let's at least see Andrade in an eye catching fight before that has to be forced upon anyone.
How much would this PPV cost the viewer? Gets less appealing when I think of that part.
Saunders already deserves his shot at the top two names anyway. I want to see that.

[klitoris]

I find it hilarious how the WBC president is encouraging a rematch between a WBC non-ranked, recently twice failed drug test Canelo.

It's like Suleiman actually doesn't care that he is basically saying: GGG, fight Canelo because we all make more money. Like this guy doesn't even want to fake an image of a semi ethical person. These guys are straight up money lol

[boxing_rocks]

It is IBF's turn, so Derevo is in front of Charlo. Also, if Golovkin fights BJS, then unification takes precedence over WBC mandatory.

[SenorPipino]

It is IBF's turn, so Derevo is in front of Charlo. Also, if Golovkin fights BJS, then unification takes precedent over WBC mandatory.

It's good that someone out there fathoms the convoluted world of boxing mandatories and sanctioning body edicts.

[Thomastearns]

I find it hilarious how the WBC president is encouraging a rematch between a WBC non-ranked, recently twice failed drug test Canelo.

It's like Suleiman actually doesn't care that he is basically saying: GGG, fight Canelo because we all make more money. Like this guy doesn't even want to fake an image of a semi ethical person. These guys are straight up money lol

Yes, it doesn't take much for Sulaiman's mask to slip. What business has the president of the WBC got in getting himself involved in a shoddy emotional blackmail attempt on behalf of Canelo Alvarez?

What exactly is the WBC? How can they be headed by such a person, and how long have they 'elected' him for?

Does he have any concept of ethics and fairness, or is that a silly question?

[boxing_rocks]

I find it hilarious how the WBC president is encouraging a rematch between a WBC non-ranked, recently twice failed drug test Canelo.

It's like Suleiman actually doesn't care that he is basically saying: GGG, fight Canelo because we all make more money. Like this guy doesn't even want to fake an image of a semi ethical person. These guys are straight up money lol

Yes, it doesn't take much for Sulaiman's mask to slip. What business has the president of the WBC got in getting himself involved in a shoddy emotional blackmail attempt on behalf of Canelo Alvarez?

What exactly is the WBC? How can they be headed by such a person, and how long have they 'elected' him for?

Does he have any concept of ethics and fairness, or is that a silly question?

WBC is a monarchy. When the previous Sulaiman died, Mauricio inherited the crown.

[Boxing Prospect]

Am I the only person who has no interest in GGG vs Charlo? Seems like another win for Golovkin where he then gets shit from his haters for beating a perceived smaller man

[bmilligan]

Though a good fight, not really interested in seeing it. Give him BJS and let him ride off into the sunset as the undisputed champ!

I like the list of fights that was made.

Andrade vs Charlo, also good.

Jacobs vs Murata/Devy?

[caldo2025]

If they finally rounded up all of the convicts and scoundrels in the sport of Boxing, the WBC Prez would be biggest crook captured. Sulaiman has been crooked for years going back to the days of the boxing crook of all crooks, Don King. Check out some of these "questionable" moves made by The Prez:

When Leon Spinks won the WBA and WBC Heavyweight championships from Muhammad Ali in 1978, the WBC stripped Leon Spinks of his title. José Sulaimán said the WBC did so because Spinks was signed for a rematch with Ali instead of fighting a Don King fighter, Ken Norton. Norton defended the WBC title against another Don King fighter, Larry Holmes, who won the belt.[5]

In 1983, WBC Super Featherweight champion Bobby Chacon was signed to fight Cornelius Boza Edwards, the WBC's mandatory challenger for his title. But, the promoter Don King wanted his fighter, Héctor Camacho, to fight for the title. Although WBC rules said the mandatory challenger should receive a shot at the title, the WBC withdrew its sanction from the fight. It stripped Chacon of his title for refusing to fight Camacho.[6]

Under WBC rules, a fighter is supposed to defend his title against a mandatory challenger at least once a year. For fighters controlled by Don King, this rule is often ignored. For instance, as WBC champions, Alexis Argüello and Carlos Zarate, were allowed to ignore their obligations to their mandatory contenders.[5]

While WBC Super Featherweight champion, Julio César Chávez wanted to fight top contender Roger Mayweather for a promoter other than Don King. The WBC withheld its sanction of the fight until Don King became promoter.[5]

When Mike Tyson lost to James "Buster" Douglas during an IBF, WBC and WBA Heavyweight championship defense, King convinced the WBC (along with the WBA) to withhold recognition of Douglas as heavyweight champion. King claimed that Tyson had won the fight due to knocking down Douglas, and the referee's giving Douglas a "long count".[5]

The referee Octavio Meyran, in an affidavit, claims that King threatened to have the WBC withhold payment of Meyran's hotel bill if Meyran did not support King's protest.[7] Because of intense public pressure, both the WBA and WBC backed down and recognized Douglas as champion.

In 1992, the WBC threatened to strip Evander Holyfield of his title for defending it against Riddick Bowe instead of Razor Ruddock. Holyfield obtained a court order to stop the organization. In a taped deposition for the United States Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Holyfield said that the WBC wanted him to defend his championship against Ruddock because Ruddock was managed by King.[8]

During the 1990s, the WBC did not allow its champions to engage in unification bouts with WBO champions. However, in 1993, the super-middleweight showdown between WBC champion Nigel Benn and WBO champion Chris Eubank, promoted by Don King, was recognized as a title unification fight by the WBC. Each champion fought to a draw in his bout and each retained their respective titles.[9]

When Mike Tyson was released from prison in 1995, the WBC installed him as their #1 contender for their heavyweight championship. Tyson had not fought in four years, but was promoted by Don King.[10]

In 1993, Julio César Chávez, managed & promoted by Don King, got a majority draw against Pernell Whitaker in their WBC welterweight title fight in San Antonio, Texas. Virtually every ringside observer and boxing analyst had Whitaker winning at least 8 or 9 of the 12 round fight, and CompuBox statistics showed Whitaker outlanding Chavez by a wide margin. But two of the three judges had the fight scored even. The fight was promoted by King, and 2 of the judges were not appointed by the state's boxing commission (in this case, Texas) like any other time; instead, they were appointed by the WBC. It had been reported that Don King had a hand in helping to secure the WBC judges for the fight.[11] To this day, the resulting draw is considered one of the most controversial decisions ever.

In 2000, Chávez, still promoted by King, was the mandatory challenger for Kostya Tszyu's WBC super lightweight title. Chávez did not appear to satisfy requirements for a mandatory challenger: he had not fought at super lightweight for two years, had recently lost to journeyman boxer Willie Wise, and had not beaten a top contender since losing his first fight to Oscar De La Hoya in 1996.

In 2005, the WBC stripped Javier Castillejo of his super welterweight title for fighting Fernando Vargas instead of Ricardo Mayorga, a fighter promoted by Don King. The WBC qualified Mayorga for a shot at the super welterweight title although he had never fought at that weight limit and had lost two of his last three fights.

[Enlightened-One]

If they finally rounded up all of the convicts and scoundrels in the sport of Boxing, the WBC Prez would be biggest crook captured. Sulaiman has been crooked for years going back to the days of the boxing crook of all crooks, Don King. Check out some of these "questionable" moves made by The Prez:

When Leon Spinks won the WBA and WBC Heavyweight championships from Muhammad Ali in 1978, the WBC stripped Leon Spinks of his title. José Sulaimán said the WBC did so because Spinks was signed for a rematch with Ali instead of fighting a Don King fighter, Ken Norton. Norton defended the WBC title against another Don King fighter, Larry Holmes, who won the belt.[5]

In 1983, WBC Super Featherweight champion Bobby Chacon was signed to fight Cornelius Boza Edwards, the WBC's mandatory challenger for his title. But, the promoter Don King wanted his fighter, Héctor Camacho, to fight for the title. Although WBC rules said the mandatory challenger should receive a shot at the title, the WBC withdrew its sanction from the fight. It stripped Chacon of his title for refusing to fight Camacho.[6]

Under WBC rules, a fighter is supposed to defend his title against a mandatory challenger at least once a year. For fighters controlled by Don King, this rule is often ignored. For instance, as WBC champions, Alexis Argüello and Carlos Zarate, were allowed to ignore their obligations to their mandatory contenders.[5]

While WBC Super Featherweight champion, Julio César Chávez wanted to fight top contender Roger Mayweather for a promoter other than Don King. The WBC withheld its sanction of the fight until Don King became promoter.[5]

When Mike Tyson lost to James "Buster" Douglas during an IBF, WBC and WBA Heavyweight championship defense, King convinced the WBC (along with the WBA) to withhold recognition of Douglas as heavyweight champion. King claimed that Tyson had won the fight due to knocking down Douglas, and the referee's giving Douglas a "long count".[5]

The referee Octavio Meyran, in an affidavit, claims that King threatened to have the WBC withhold payment of Meyran's hotel bill if Meyran did not support King's protest.[7] Because of intense public pressure, both the WBA and WBC backed down and recognized Douglas as champion.

In 1992, the WBC threatened to strip Evander Holyfield of his title for defending it against Riddick Bowe instead of Razor Ruddock. Holyfield obtained a court order to stop the organization. In a taped deposition for the United States Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Holyfield said that the WBC wanted him to defend his championship against Ruddock because Ruddock was managed by King.[8]

During the 1990s, the WBC did not allow its champions to engage in unification bouts with WBO champions. However, in 1993, the super-middleweight showdown between WBC champion Nigel Benn and WBO champion Chris Eubank, promoted by Don King, was recognized as a title unification fight by the WBC. Each champion fought to a draw in his bout and each retained their respective titles.[9]

When Mike Tyson was released from prison in 1995, the WBC installed him as their #1 contender for their heavyweight championship. Tyson had not fought in four years, but was promoted by Don King.[10]

In 1993, Julio César Chávez, managed & promoted by Don King, got a majority draw against Pernell Whitaker in their WBC welterweight title fight in San Antonio, Texas. Virtually every ringside observer and boxing analyst had Whitaker winning at least 8 or 9 of the 12 round fight, and CompuBox statistics showed Whitaker outlanding Chavez by a wide margin. But two of the three judges had the fight scored even. The fight was promoted by King, and 2 of the judges were not appointed by the state's boxing commission (in this case, Texas) like any other time; instead, they were appointed by the WBC. It had been reported that Don King had a hand in helping to secure the WBC judges for the fight.[11] To this day, the resulting draw is considered one of the most controversial decisions ever.

In 2000, Chávez, still promoted by King, was the mandatory challenger for Kostya Tszyu's WBC super lightweight title. Chávez did not appear to satisfy requirements for a mandatory challenger: he had not fought at super lightweight for two years, had recently lost to journeyman boxer Willie Wise, and had not beaten a top contender since losing his first fight to Oscar De La Hoya in 1996.

In 2005, the WBC stripped Javier Castillejo of his super welterweight title for fighting Fernando Vargas instead of Ricardo Mayorga, a fighter promoted by Don King. The WBC qualified Mayorga for a shot at the super welterweight title although he had never fought at that weight limit and had lost two of his last three fights.

You have the sheer audacity to criticise my long posts, but then post a wall of text like this?

[Boxing Prospect]

Not going to quote that... But Caldo you are aware this president wasn't the one involved in any of them

[Best Coast]

Great news. Charlo-GGG would be a great fight and Charlo has a good chance of beating Golovkin.

[jamamb]

Great news. Charlo-GGG would be a great fight and Charlo has a good chance of beating Golovkin.

charlo will beat the breaks off ggg, no need for a cheeky smile, its just the truth, look at that power, speed, and committment to combo punching, he will unload on an easy to hit guy who will have no answer if pushed back and will take a beating

ggg is what, 37 or so? his times gonna come very soon

[boxing_rocks]

Golovkin will wipe the floor with Charlo.

[caldo2025]

Great news. Charlo-GGG would be a great fight and Charlo has a good chance of beating Golovkin.

charlo will beat the breaks off ggg, no need for a cheeky smile, its just the truth, look at that power, speed, and committment to combo punching, he will unload on an easy to hit guy who will have no answer if pushed back and will take a beating

ggg is what, 37 or so? his times gonna come very soon

Unfortunately, i agree that Charlo is going to be GGG's trip to retirement. I hope that GGG's smarter than this but I can see him, being he ultimate champion we've had for years now, taking it on. There's something about Charlo's power that is scary. He's knocking people out with glancing blows that you have to look at 5 times on instant replay to see where and how it landed. No no no, I'm not interested in seeing GGG go out like that.

[apollo creed]

I don't rate Jermall so high at 160 lbs because he didn't beat nobody. Jermall's best accomplishment on his resume was a UD win against an already beaten Austin Trout at 154 lbs . I don't know why people are so high about him ?! Put Jermall against Jacobs or Derevyanchenko and we would see if he's the real deal.

Atm beside the rematch with Canelo which is by far the most lucrative fight for GGG are fights against BJS and Murata.

[boxing_rocks]

I don't rate Jermall so high at 160 lbs because he didn't beat nobody. Jermall's best accomplishment on his resume was a UD win against an already beaten Austin Trout at 154 lbs . I don't know why people are so high about him ?! Put Jermall against Jacobs or Derevyanchenko and we would see if he's the real deal.

Exactly, at 160 he beat crippled Heiland and chinny Centreno. He couldn't stop Trout, so what scary power are we talking about?

[Blodhemn]

I don't rate Jermall so high at 160 lbs because he didn't beat nobody. Jermall's best accomplishment on his resume was a UD win against an already beaten Austin Trout at 154 lbs . I don't know why people are so high about him ?! Put Jermall against Jacobs or Derevyanchenko and we would see if he's the real deal.

Exactly, at 160 he beat crippled Heiland and chinny Centreno. He couldn't stop Trout, so what scary power are we talking about?

x3. Couldn't stop a weak Trout yet is going to retire GGG? Most overrated outlook of all time.

[apollo creed]

Just because they look, talk and sound like 'we're thugs from the hood' it doesn't mean that they are elite fighters / beasts but they can prove it all of us wrong by beating top-legit opponents.

Jermall vs Jacobs / Derev.

Jermell vs Hurd