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The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 07:57
by ValMar
Who ? Why ?
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 08:07
by DrDuke
Garcia, he's 4 division champion, had good opposition. Crawford is next, belts in 2 divisions and undisputed in one of them, also had tough opposition. Then Spence, then Wilder, cause Spence has a better ratio of solid scalps to the amount of them.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 10:38
by Ruthless-RKO
DrDuke wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 08:07
Garcia, he's 4 division champion, had good opposition. Crawford is next, belts in 2 divisions and undisputed in one of them, also had tough opposition. Then Spence, then Wilder, cause Spence has a better ratio of solid scalps to the amount of them.
Crawford now has belts in 3 divisions
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 13:05
by DrDuke
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 10:38
DrDuke wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 08:07
Garcia, he's 4 division champion, had good opposition. Crawford is next, belts in 2 divisions and undisputed in one of them, also had tough opposition. Then Spence, then Wilder, cause Spence has a better ratio of solid scalps to the amount of them.
Crawford now has belts in 3 divisions
Oh, yeah. So, his overall achievements seem to be bigger, than Garcia's. Mikey has conquered on a 1 cathegory more, but hasn't unified yet anything.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 13:14
by tiny_acres
Crawford is not only the best in America. He is the best in the world.
P4P #1
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 13:48
by ewenhay
tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 13:14
Crawford is not only the best in America. He is the best in the world.
P4P #1
Yep. Crawford is the best in the business.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 14:16
by Impractical Poster
That's a tough one. I think Spence would overpower Crawford if they ever fought.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 14:36
by ValMar
Opening this topic, I did not vote. So, there are several very difficult questions (can Wilder beat Joshua, can Spence beat Crawford, can Mikey beat Loma), and I have no answers. Anyway, if Wilder is able to become undisputed HW champion, he will be my choice, this is the best achievement in the modern day boxing.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 15:28
by Mexi-Box
tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 13:14
Crawford is not only the best in America. He is the best in the world.
P4P #1
Not even close when you have guys like Usyk, Lomachenko, Mikey, Sor Rungvisai, and Inoue all putting on great performances against good competition. Not even sure if Crawford's resume is better than Mikey's. Mikey has the best single win in Broner.
Would have to do a deep comparison between Inoue and Crawford's resume.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 15:58
by Abradolf Lincler
Crawford. He's the best pound for pound alongside Lomachenko.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 16:02
by Cent0089
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 16:29
by tiny_acres
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 15:28
tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 13:14
Crawford is not only the best in America. He is the best in the world.
P4P #1
Not even close when you have guys like Usyk, Lomachenko, Mikey, Sor Rungvisai, and Inoue all putting on great performances against good competition. Not even sure if Crawford's resume is better than Mikey's. Mikey has the best single win in Broner.
Would have to do a deep comparison between Inoue and Crawford's resume.
I respect your opinion....... Too bad it's wrong

Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 18:13
by SenorPipino
I'll stick with Spence on potential.
Doesn't have the resume of some of the others, not yet anyway. But using the old "eye test" method, he seems out of this world.
Yes, Spence vs Crawford is a match up for the ages.
Crawford looked strong last night in his welterweight debut. But as strong as Spence?
I was a bit disappointed in Crawford's power. I expected him to take out an open, aggressive, limited fighter like Horn in rapid order.
Instead it was more of a wearing down process. Chipping away until Horn finally folded.
I don't think Crawford's power at 147 matches Spence. Not at this time at least. He might need more time to physically develop at welter.
I wouldn't hesitate to pick Spence to beat Crawford.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 22:46
by Lackeos
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 15:28
Not even sure if Crawford's resume is better than Mikey's. Mikey has the best single win in Broner.
No, Broner is nowhere close to the best win on their collective resumes.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 11 Jun 2018, 11:58
by Taansend
ewenhay wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 13:48
tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 13:14
Crawford is not only the best in America. He is the best in the world.
P4P #1
Yep. Crawford is the best in the business.
Crawford and Lomachenko at the top. Head and shoulders above the rest.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 12 Jun 2018, 06:34
by caldo2025
Crawford is an ATG type of boxer and I really hope that Uncle Bob let's him take the kinds of fights that he wants. I think that TC would knock Spence out, I really do. Just an opinion but this guy fights angrily and I don't see another boxer with better tools.
I don't consider the other American Boxers as ATG type of fighters.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 12 Jun 2018, 15:12
by Mexi-Box
tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 16:29
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 15:28
tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 13:14
Crawford is not only the best in America. He is the best in the world.
P4P #1
Not even close when you have guys like Usyk, Lomachenko, Mikey, Sor Rungvisai, and Inoue all putting on great performances against good competition. Not even sure if Crawford's resume is better than Mikey's. Mikey has the best single win in Broner.
Would have to do a deep comparison between Inoue and Crawford's resume.
I respect your opinion....... Too bad it's wrong
I like when someone just says that without backing up their opinion. Makes me laugh because it's very often they don't have a leg to stand on.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 12 Jun 2018, 15:13
by Mexi-Box
Lackeos wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 22:46
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 15:28
Not even sure if Crawford's resume is better than Mikey's. Mikey has the best single win in Broner.
No, Broner is nowhere close to the best win on their collective resumes.
Already decapitated you on this point. You were utterly wrong.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 12 Jun 2018, 18:18
by Lackeos
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 15:13
Lackeos wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 22:46
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 15:28
Not even sure if Crawford's resume is better than Mikey's. Mikey has the best single win in Broner.
No, Broner is nowhere close to the best win on their collective resumes.
Already decapitated you on this point. You were utterly wrong.
Either that or you are utterly delusional about believing you are right when you're not.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 12 Jun 2018, 18:34
by Mexi-Box
Lackeos wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 18:18
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 15:13
Lackeos wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 22:46
No, Broner is nowhere close to the best win on their collective resumes.
Already decapitated you on this point. You were utterly wrong.
Either that or you are utterly delusional about believing you are right when you're not.
We already argued it. I won. Get over yourself now.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 12 Jun 2018, 18:36
by Lackeos
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 18:34
Lackeos wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 18:18
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 15:13
Already decapitated you on this point. You were utterly wrong.
Either that or you are utterly delusional about believing you are right when you're not.
We already argued it. I won. Get over yourself now.
You didn't win. You told yourself that you won. There's a difference.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 12 Jun 2018, 22:41
by Mexi-Box
Lackeos wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 18:36
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 18:34
Lackeos wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 18:18
Either that or you are utterly delusional about believing you are right when you're not.
We already argued it. I won. Get over yourself now.
You didn't win. You told yourself that you won. There's a difference.
Okay, tell me how Broner is "nowhere close" to the best win on their collective resumes. I'm waiting. We can have this argument all over again, and you can go ahead and look like an idiot saying Indongo.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 13 Jun 2018, 08:48
by Abradolf Lincler

Broner.
Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 13 Jun 2018, 09:05
by Counter-puncher
I would struggle to think of a
win that Broner has to justify his ranking as a good name, especially at 140lbs or above. hell his best at 135 would be Demarco i think?

Re: The best US boxer, p4p, right now, June 2018 ?
Posted: 13 Jun 2018, 11:26
by ValMar
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 09:05
I would struggle to think of a
win that Broner has to justify his ranking as a good name, especially at 140lbs or above. hell his best at 135 would be Demarco i think?
I think you are right.