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Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 05:16
by bigped
Good fight confirmed for Whyte vs Parker undercard , am going for chisora to put on a big performance and get the win :bag:

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 05:37
by keithmoonhangover
This is going to be a great night of boxing. Definitely going to this. :yay:

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 06:18
by Tuan_Jim
Very nice pairing! I like both so will be sad to see one of them lose. Takam was cruelly deprived of the notoriety of being the first man to go 12 with AJ, which was a hell of an accomplishment on short notice, and I think his quality skills will probably decide this fight.

Was thinking the other day about how under appreciated Chisora has been. He has this reputation as basically a high calibre journeyman, which I think is completely unfair. He had good rumbles with giant sized champs Tyson Fury (fight I) and Vitali Klitschko (who describes the fight as the hardest of his career) and he also went abroad and gave that giant Viking a good working over, breaking what had been a savage streak of kayoes (over Brewster, Peter and Lyakovich), only to be robbed of the decision. He also when apparently used up beat Dillian Whyte silly, who they are trying to angle into a world title shot.

Chisora has been a world class operator, and has performed better than many 'top 10 contenders' did against the same opponents, which is quite the accomplishment given his crudity and weight fluctuation.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 06:21
by rhino222
good scrap this. if del boy can take takam he puts himself in with a chance of a title tilt. one last hurrah.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 07:23
by African Monkey
For some reason a draw wouldn't suprise me here.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 07:39
by KiwiRider
Sweet.
Del made the mistake of not leaving it all in the ring last time out, hopefully this time he will not hold back.
Both guys are tough and savvy scrappers. Oh goody :box:

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 08:20
by tobyh5
Tuan_Jim wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 06:18 Very nice pairing! I like both so will be sad to see one of them lose. Takam was cruelly deprived of the notoriety of being the first man to go 12 with AJ, which was a hell of an accomplishment on short notice, and I think his quality skills will probably decide this fight.

Was thinking the other day about how under appreciated Chisora has been. He has this reputation as basically a high calibre journeyman, which I think is completely unfair. He had good rumbles with giant sized champs Tyson Fury (fight I) and Vitali Klitschko (who describes the fight as the hardest of his career) and he also went abroad and gave that giant Viking a good working over, breaking what had been a savage streak of kayoes (over Brewster, Peter and Lyakovich), only to be robbed of the decision. He also when apparently used up beat Dillian Whyte silly, who they are trying to angle into a world title shot.

Chisora has been a world class operator, and has performed better than many 'top 10 contenders' did against the same opponents, which is quite the accomplishment given his crudity and weight fluctuation.
I think that and everything about Del is very much the definition of a high calibre journeyman and you described exactly why. Often gives the good boys a good tussle, has a few debatable losses to those guys, falls short in the main, can look less than inspiring against mid level guys but steamroll lower level guys.


Rather than arguing why it is an unfair tag, I think you set out why it is justified.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 08:44
by Taansend
Tuan_Jim wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 06:18 Very nice pairing! I like both so will be sad to see one of them lose. Takam was cruelly deprived of the notoriety of being the first man to go 12 with AJ, which was a hell of an accomplishment on short notice, and I think his quality skills will probably decide this fight.

Was thinking the other day about how under appreciated Chisora has been. He has this reputation as basically a high calibre journeyman, which I think is completely unfair. He had good rumbles with giant sized champs Tyson Fury (fight I) and Vitali Klitschko (who describes the fight as the hardest of his career) and he also went abroad and gave that giant Viking a good working over, breaking what had been a savage streak of kayoes (over Brewster, Peter and Lyakovich), only to be robbed of the decision. He also when apparently used up beat Dillian Whyte silly, who they are trying to angle into a world title shot.

Chisora has been a world class operator, and has performed better than many 'top 10 contenders' did against the same opponents, which is quite the accomplishment given his crudity and weight fluctuation.
Wasn't proper short notice though. He was the Sub from a few months out.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 09:29
by Tuan_Jim
tobyh5 wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 08:20
Tuan_Jim wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 06:18 Very nice pairing! I like both so will be sad to see one of them lose. Takam was cruelly deprived of the notoriety of being the first man to go 12 with AJ, which was a hell of an accomplishment on short notice, and I think his quality skills will probably decide this fight.

Was thinking the other day about how under appreciated Chisora has been. He has this reputation as basically a high calibre journeyman, which I think is completely unfair. He had good rumbles with giant sized champs Tyson Fury (fight I) and Vitali Klitschko (who describes the fight as the hardest of his career) and he also went abroad and gave that giant Viking a good working over, breaking what had been a savage streak of kayoes (over Brewster, Peter and Lyakovich), only to be robbed of the decision. He also when apparently used up beat Dillian Whyte silly, who they are trying to angle into a world title shot.

Chisora has been a world class operator, and has performed better than many 'top 10 contenders' did against the same opponents, which is quite the accomplishment given his crudity and weight fluctuation.
I think that and everything about Del is very much the definition of a high calibre journeyman and you described exactly why. Often gives the good boys a good tussle, has a few debatable losses to those guys, falls short in the main, can look less than inspiring against mid level guys but steamroll lower level guys.


Rather than arguing why it is an unfair tag, I think you set out why it is justified.
But the myriad world champs and contenders Vitali and Fury bashed up aren't journeymen, but Derek Chisora still is. That makes sense.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 09:30
by Tuan_Jim
Taansend wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 08:44
Tuan_Jim wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 06:18 Very nice pairing! I like both so will be sad to see one of them lose. Takam was cruelly deprived of the notoriety of being the first man to go 12 with AJ, which was a hell of an accomplishment on short notice, and I think his quality skills will probably decide this fight.

Was thinking the other day about how under appreciated Chisora has been. He has this reputation as basically a high calibre journeyman, which I think is completely unfair. He had good rumbles with giant sized champs Tyson Fury (fight I) and Vitali Klitschko (who describes the fight as the hardest of his career) and he also went abroad and gave that giant Viking a good working over, breaking what had been a savage streak of kayoes (over Brewster, Peter and Lyakovich), only to be robbed of the decision. He also when apparently used up beat Dillian Whyte silly, who they are trying to angle into a world title shot.

Chisora has been a world class operator, and has performed better than many 'top 10 contenders' did against the same opponents, which is quite the accomplishment given his crudity and weight fluctuation.
Wasn't proper short notice though. He was the Sub from a few months out.
Pedant.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 09:32
by Taansend
Tuan_Jim wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 09:30
Taansend wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 08:44
Tuan_Jim wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 06:18 Very nice pairing! I like both so will be sad to see one of them lose. Takam was cruelly deprived of the notoriety of being the first man to go 12 with AJ, which was a hell of an accomplishment on short notice, and I think his quality skills will probably decide this fight.

Was thinking the other day about how under appreciated Chisora has been. He has this reputation as basically a high calibre journeyman, which I think is completely unfair. He had good rumbles with giant sized champs Tyson Fury (fight I) and Vitali Klitschko (who describes the fight as the hardest of his career) and he also went abroad and gave that giant Viking a good working over, breaking what had been a savage streak of kayoes (over Brewster, Peter and Lyakovich), only to be robbed of the decision. He also when apparently used up beat Dillian Whyte silly, who they are trying to angle into a world title shot.

Chisora has been a world class operator, and has performed better than many 'top 10 contenders' did against the same opponents, which is quite the accomplishment given his crudity and weight fluctuation.
Wasn't proper short notice though. He was the Sub from a few months out.
Pedant.
You precious little princess :lol:

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 12:29
by Syntax Error
It's got to the point whereby, unless he's up against someone I know he doesn't have a hope of beating, I will not predict an outcome as far as he's concerned.

If you were to look up inconsistent in the dictionary, there'd be a picture of Dereck Chisora's love handles there! :doh:

He's so frustrating to follow, because just when you think he's got his act together (like he did against Whyte) he goes & puts in a performance that you wouldn't pay him dog sh!t for (Kabayel). :brick:

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 12:40
by Boxerbeetle
Could be great, could be a stinker. The card is definitely looking better now. Still not buying though.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 12:42
by ElJefe
Good fight if Del Boy is motivated.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 12:42
by deadpan
I concur about his flagrant inconsistencies, but I still admire him. He's proof that if you're prepared to fight live opponents and not just seek the walkovers there'll always be paydays for you.

So many fascinating hw fights could have been made (and lots of cash) if other boxers had his attitude.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 12:58
by chinarich
I like this fight, both rather rough and ready, both need a win out of this to guarantee further decent paydays.

I reckon Chisora edges it, he’ll be motivated for this one...

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 14:07
by brilo33
think del boy is finished think takam might do a job on him, where a younger del boy would of won

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 16:26
by dr_devious
Del gets outworked and outpointed or stopped late here

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 16:28
by Oiky
I like this fight :box:

Two tough men

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 16:46
by leejonesjnr
You can tell how Chisora will perform by how he acts pre fight.
If he is throwing things around and acting up then he will lose. If he is calm and polite he will win.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 17 Jun 2018, 01:18
by Syntax Error
leejonesjnr wrote: 16 Jun 2018, 16:46 You can tell how Chisora will perform by how he acts pre fight.
If he is throwing things around and acting up then he will lose. If he is calm and polite he will win.
How did he act before Kabayel?

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 17 Jun 2018, 01:45
by punchoutsb
Takam wins because he's better, then Chisora followers blame it on lack of motivation.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 17 Jun 2018, 06:15
by keithmoonhangover
leejonesjnr wrote: 16 Jun 2018, 16:46 You can tell how Chisora will perform by how he acts pre fight.
If he is throwing things around and acting up then he will lose. If he is calm and polite he will win.
What happens if he's calm and polite and fighting someone much better?

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 17 Jun 2018, 06:57
by Bard of Boxrec
I expect Takam to win this in a bruising 116-112 type affair.

Re: Chisora vs takam

Posted: 17 Jun 2018, 06:58
by leejonesjnr
Syntax Error wrote: 17 Jun 2018, 01:18
leejonesjnr wrote: 16 Jun 2018, 16:46 You can tell how Chisora will perform by how he acts pre fight.
If he is throwing things around and acting up then he will lose. If he is calm and polite he will win.
How did he act before Kabayel?
I didn't see any footage, did you?