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James9753 wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 05:54 After losing to Tony Yoka what's next for Dave Allen? I don't want him to take on a journeyman role already and has been in tough enough scraps with the likes of Ortiz, Whyte, Yoka and even Thomas.

How would he fare at British level against Sexton, H. Fury, Cornish, Lewison, Little, Akinlade etc? I think the likes of Joyce, Dubois and Gorman are all probably too much for him. Should he be fighting that level of opponent?

littlepug wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 06:28 Get some work ethic and get down to cruiser

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 06:45

littlepug wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 06:28 Get some work ethic and get down to cruiser

You’re absolutely spot on!

It’s clear that Dave Allen competes whilst being pretty out of shape. Even when he’s weighed around the 230lbs mark, he looked like he could easily shift a fair bit of weight if he trained to improve his cardio.

He’s a nice enough bloke, but he clearly has no discipline or motivation to maintain his fitness levels or his weight.

A couple of months ago he was as much as 272lbs against David Howe and he looked horrible in that fight.

3132DW wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 07:32 He’ll fight another 2-3 Small Hall Shows - get back to winning record then he’ll get a step up on Matchroom show Oct/Nov.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 06:06

James9753 wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 05:54 After losing to Tony Yoka what's next for Dave Allen? I don't want him to take on a journeyman role already and has been in tough enough scraps with the likes of Ortiz, Whyte, Yoka and even Thomas.

How would he fare at British level against Sexton, H. Fury, Cornish, Lewison, Little, Akinlade etc? I think the likes of Joyce, Dubois and Gorman are all probably too much for him. Should he be fighting that level of opponent?

If he hasn’t already been dumped by Matchroom, he will be soon.

From now on, he’s going to be used as cannon fodder for novice prospects like Daniel Dubois and Joe Joyce. He’s durable enough to survive a few rounds without posing any threat to their unblemished resumes.

On a side note, this thread should have really been posted to the British & Irish section.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 10:31

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 06:06

James9753 wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 05:54 After losing to Tony Yoka what's next for Dave Allen? I don't want him to take on a journeyman role already and has been in tough enough scraps with the likes of Ortiz, Whyte, Yoka and even Thomas.

How would he fare at British level against Sexton, H. Fury, Cornish, Lewison, Little, Akinlade etc? I think the likes of Joyce, Dubois and Gorman are all probably too much for him. Should he be fighting that level of opponent?

If he hasn’t already been dumped by Matchroom, he will be soon.

From now on, he’s going to be used as cannon fodder for novice prospects like Daniel Dubois and Joe Joyce. He’s durable enough to survive a few rounds without posing any threat to their unblemished resumes.

On a side note, this thread should have really been posted to the British & Irish section.

Why? Dave Allen is a boxer within the current scene, no reason why he needs to be discussed exclusively on the British forum.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 10:48

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 10:31

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 06:06
If he hasn’t already been dumped by Matchroom, he will be soon.

From now on, he’s going to be used as cannon fodder for novice prospects like Daniel Dubois and Joe Joyce. He’s durable enough to survive a few rounds without posing any threat to their unblemished resumes.

On a side note, this thread should have really been posted to the British & Irish section.

Why? Dave Allen is a boxer within the current scene, no reason why he needs to be discussed exclusively on the British forum.

He’s a domestic level British fighter. His name is nor relevant to the current global scene.

It’s not the end of the world for Dave Allen’s name to be mentioned in this section of the forum… I really couldn’t care less (since I’ve already contributed to this thread several times), but there is a specific section of this forum catering to domestic level British fighters.

Other people’s threads get moved to the History section whenever they discuss fantasy fights between retired or deceased fighters on the Current Scene… and this is a very similar situation.

If people insist on posting threads of a historical nature or relating to domestic level British fighters to the Current Scene, then they may as well delete those sections of the forum… just saying.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 11:01

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 10:48

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 10:31

Why? Dave Allen is a boxer within the current scene, no reason why he needs to be discussed exclusively on the British forum.

He’s a domestic level British fighter. His name is nor relevant to the current global scene.

It’s not the end of the world for Dave Allen’s name to be mentioned in this section of the forum… I really couldn’t care less (since I’ve already contributed to this thread several times), but there is a specific section of this forum catering to domestic level British fighters.

Other people’s threads get moved to the History section whenever they discuss fantasy fights between retired or deceased fighters on the Current Scene… and this is a very similar situation.

If people insist on posting threads of a historical nature or relating to domestic level British fighters to the Current Scene, then they may as well delete those sections of the forum… just saying.

Historical threads should indeed be moved to the history section. But there’s no reason why Dave Allen shouldn’t be discussed on CS - it’s not like he’s only ever fought at domestic level, he’s fought Ortiz & Whyte within the last 2 years. Who knows, maybe Wilder will face him next...

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 11:13

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 11:01

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 10:48
He’s a domestic level British fighter. His name is nor relevant to the current global scene.

It’s not the end of the world for Dave Allen’s name to be mentioned in this section of the forum… I really couldn’t care less (since I’ve already contributed to this thread several times), but there is a specific section of this forum catering to domestic level British fighters.

Other people’s threads get moved to the History section whenever they discuss fantasy fights between retired or deceased fighters on the Current Scene… and this is a very similar situation.

If people insist on posting threads of a historical nature or relating to domestic level British fighters to the Current Scene, then they may as well delete those sections of the forum… just saying.

Historical threads should indeed be moved to the history section. But there’s no reason why Dave Allen shouldn’t be discussed on CS - it’s not like he’s only ever fought at domestic level, he’s fought Ortiz & Whyte within the last 2 years. Who knows, maybe Wilder will face him next...

So he’s only beaten three men during his last nine fights and recently losing to a journeyman and a four fight novice… and you think his name is relevant to the global scene? Mmm… OK.

I'll step away from this discussion and wish you a good day.

chinarich wrote: ↑29 Jun 2018, 08:46 Target the Area then English title in the first instance...

James9753 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2018, 11:05

chinarich wrote: ↑29 Jun 2018, 08:46 Target the Area then English title in the first instance...

Would be interested to see how he'd perform even then at that level. With Dubois controlling the Southern Area and English titles. I think he could definitely give Dubois rounds due to Allen's granite chin, but dubious as to whether or not he'd beat him. Although it would arguably be a step up from Tom Little. Midlands Area held by Kash Ali, which I think he could win. Northern Area title hasn't been contested for since 1987. So if he did aim for an Area title, Midlands one against Ali would probably be his best bet.