AJ's future fights

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Well, Povetkin is the most logical option for the moment. If AJ wins it, Wilder will be inarguably best option. However, I don't like to see all the things that far. The picture of the scene can change a bit even in the beginning of the next year. Actually Povetkin isn't a one to be looked through.
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I could see Miller and the Whyte-Parker winner fighting AJ next year if the Wilder fight doesn't happen.
Possibly Tyson Fury could get himself back into contention or Maybe Wlad will change his mind and return for a rematch!
As for Wilder.......A rubber match with Stiverne could be a blockbuster :roll:
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Whyte got battered and ktfo in the first fight; even if he somehow beats Parker, he doesn’t deserve a rematch.
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 13:51 Whyte got battered and ktfo in the first fight; even if he somehow beats Parker, he doesn’t deserve a rematch.
I guess, the most possible way for Whyte to win Parker is to take a decision, maybe not without judges' help. And, yes, that won't be so convincing in the sense of earning the title shot. But if he KOes Parker somehow, this probably will put him in the contender spot.
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the wilder fight will happen sometime in 2019. the povetkin fight will happen next there is no doubt about that. after that it depends what happens with the other fights. if the wilder fight is not his first in 2019 then it will most likely be the winner of pulev vs miller. the fury fight probably wont happen till 2020. also the parker vs whyte winner will likely face aj sometime in 2019. These are fights that are probably going to happen providing he can carry on winning. Fights after these will depend on if these upcoming prospects can become contenders.
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 13:51 Whyte got battered and ktfo in the first fight; even if he somehow beats Parker, he doesn’t deserve a rematch.
If someone gets themselves back into contention by beating the other contenders then they absolutely should deserve another opportunity.
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ewenhay wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:10
Boxerbeetle wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 13:51 Whyte got battered and ktfo in the first fight; even if he somehow beats Parker, he doesn’t deserve a rematch.
If someone gets themselves back into contention by beating the other contenders then they absolutely should deserve another opportunity.
Maybe...if there’s no better contenders available. Just don’t ask me to buy it on PPV, because we already know the outcome.
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:16
ewenhay wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:10
Boxerbeetle wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 13:51 Whyte got battered and ktfo in the first fight; even if he somehow beats Parker, he doesn’t deserve a rematch.
If someone gets themselves back into contention by beating the other contenders then they absolutely should deserve another opportunity.
Maybe...if there’s no better contenders available. Just don’t ask me to buy it on PPV, because we already know the outcome.
That's the essence of sport. Numerous examples of others who have rebuilt and earned another opportunity.
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ewenhay wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:22
Boxerbeetle wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:16
ewenhay wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:10

If someone gets themselves back into contention by beating the other contenders then they absolutely should deserve another opportunity.
Maybe...if there’s no better contenders available. Just don’t ask me to buy it on PPV, because we already know the outcome.
That's the essence of sport. Numerous examples of others who have rebuilt and earned another opportunity.
It’s the essence of many sports. But in boxing, when one guy has already been conclusively beaten up and knocked out by another guy, there’s generally not too much interest in watching it happen again.
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astradamus wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 12:02 Since Wilder doesn't dare to fight or only asks for absolutely outragious amounts of cash and receives a lot of help from the WBC and such.

Who will be AJ's future opponents?
I expect Povetkin next, but after that...
Miller (Februari 2019?)
Whyte (june 2019?)
Tyson Fury (November 2019?)
Joe Joyce (March 2020?)
Kownacki (august 2020?)
Junlong Zhang (December 2020?)

Any other suggestions? And who will Wilder fight meanwhile?
Breazeale
Stiverne (who remarkebly is once again gaining rankings while everybody knows he would lose badly against at least 100 other boxers)
Charles Martin
Chisora
Something like that?
STFU with the Stiverne crap.He was the champ when Wilder won the first time and the mandatory the second time.
The only way Stiverne would fight Wilder again is if he becomes mandatory. And even the corrupt WBC wouldn't torture us with that again
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:25
ewenhay wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:22
Boxerbeetle wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:16

Maybe...if there’s no better contenders available. Just don’t ask me to buy it on PPV, because we already know the outcome.
That's the essence of sport. Numerous examples of others who have rebuilt and earned another opportunity.
It’s the essence of many sports. But in boxing, when one guy has already been conclusively beaten up and knocked out by another guy, there’s generally not too much interest in watching it happen again.
Situations change. If Whyte was say to beat Parker and Wilder there would be plenty of interest in a rematch.

Not that I think he would but the principle stands.
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ewenhay wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:42
Boxerbeetle wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:25
ewenhay wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:22

That's the essence of sport. Numerous examples of others who have rebuilt and earned another opportunity.
It’s the essence of many sports. But in boxing, when one guy has already been conclusively beaten up and knocked out by another guy, there’s generally not too much interest in watching it happen again.
Situations change. If Whyte was say to beat Parker and Wilder there would be plenty of interest in a rematch.

Not that I think he would but the principle stands.
Anyone remember Tony Thompson losing by ko in 11 to Wladamir and then fighting him again 4 years later?
Larry Holmes shut out Earnie Shavers in a WBC title eliminator then had to knock him out again 1 year later in a defense.
Ali knocked out Quarry in 3 and then again in 7
Hagler knocked out Hamsho in 11 then had to knock him out in 3 3 years later
I could go on forever with these.

I can't stand Whyte. I think he is the next Chisora. A tough oponent but not a top contender.
But if he is highly ranked and can get by Parker he deserves the title shot.
Personally I think Parker beats him
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tiny_acres wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:55
ewenhay wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:42
Boxerbeetle wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:25

It’s the essence of many sports. But in boxing, when one guy has already been conclusively beaten up and knocked out by another guy, there’s generally not too much interest in watching it happen again.
Situations change. If Whyte was say to beat Parker and Wilder there would be plenty of interest in a rematch.

Not that I think he would but the principle stands.
Anyone remember Tony Thompson losing by ko in 11 to Wladamir and then fighting him again 4 years later?
Larry Holmes shut out Earnie Shavers in a WBC title eliminator then had to knock him out again 1 year later in a defense.
Ali knocked out Quarry in 3 and then again in 7
Hagler knocked out Hamsho in 11 then had to knock him out in 3 3 years later
I could go on forever with these.

I can't stand Whyte. I think he is the next Chisora. A tough oponent but not a top contender.
But if he is highly ranked and can get by Parker he deserves the title shot.
Personally I think Parker beats him
I agree the likelihood is that the result would be the same but there are also plenty examples of fighters reversing the result of the original fight.
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ewenhay wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 16:04
tiny_acres wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:55
ewenhay wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:42

Situations change. If Whyte was say to beat Parker and Wilder there would be plenty of interest in a rematch.

Not that I think he would but the principle stands.
Anyone remember Tony Thompson losing by ko in 11 to Wladamir and then fighting him again 4 years later?
Larry Holmes shut out Earnie Shavers in a WBC title eliminator then had to knock him out again 1 year later in a defense.
Ali knocked out Quarry in 3 and then again in 7
Hagler knocked out Hamsho in 11 then had to knock him out in 3 3 years later
I could go on forever with these.

I can't stand Whyte. I think he is the next Chisora. A tough oponent but not a top contender.
But if he is highly ranked and can get by Parker he deserves the title shot.
Personally I think Parker beats him
I agree the likelihood is that the result would be the same but there are also plenty examples of fighters reversing the result of the original fight.
I agree numerous examples of the loser in the first fight winning the next fight.
But I would bet my left foot that Whyte would not beat Joshua in a rematch.
I find Whyte so over rated off of wobbling AJ with a punch a few years back. I feel he lost to Chisora.
And I do not see him beating Parker even though Parker is notorius for only fighting up to the level of his oposition
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tiny_acres wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 16:09
ewenhay wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 16:04
tiny_acres wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:55
Anyone remember Tony Thompson losing by ko in 11 to Wladamir and then fighting him again 4 years later?
Larry Holmes shut out Earnie Shavers in a WBC title eliminator then had to knock him out again 1 year later in a defense.
Ali knocked out Quarry in 3 and then again in 7
Hagler knocked out Hamsho in 11 then had to knock him out in 3 3 years later
I could go on forever with these.

I can't stand Whyte. I think he is the next Chisora. A tough oponent but not a top contender.
But if he is highly ranked and can get by Parker he deserves the title shot.
Personally I think Parker beats him
I agree the likelihood is that the result would be the same but there are also plenty examples of fighters reversing the result of the original fight.
I agree numerous examples of the loser in the first fight winning the next fight.
But I would bet my left foot that Whyte would not beat Joshua in a rematch.
I find Whyte so over rated off of wobbling AJ with a punch a few years back. I feel he lost to Chisora.
And I do not see him beating Parker even though Parker is notorius for only fighting up to the level of his oposition
I agree. I think Parker wins too.
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Can see AJ moving to the states after Povetkin.

Miller up first in NY
Wilder in vegas (x2? 3?)

No matter what the result or state of the belts after that AJ will always have Fury or Whyte fights @ Welmbley to fall back on.
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All this Wilder talk is just hyping up the fight,

It will happen early next year at Wembley April 13th.

Joshua fights Povetkin in the interim.

Wilder fights Breazeale.
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astradamus wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 11:33
tiny_acres wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 15:34
astradamus wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 12:02 Since Wilder doesn't dare to fight or only asks for absolutely outragious amounts of cash and receives a lot of help from the WBC and such.

Who will be AJ's future opponents?
I expect Povetkin next, but after that...
Miller (Februari 2019?)
Whyte (june 2019?)
Tyson Fury (November 2019?)
Joe Joyce (March 2020?)
Kownacki (august 2020?)
Junlong Zhang (December 2020?)

Any other suggestions? And who will Wilder fight meanwhile?
Breazeale
Stiverne (who remarkebly is once again gaining rankings while everybody knows he would lose badly against at least 100 other boxers)
Charles Martin
Chisora
Something like that?
STFU with the Stiverne crap.He was the champ when Wilder won the first time and the mandatory the second time.
The only way Stiverne would fight Wilder again is if he becomes mandatory. And even the corrupt WBC wouldn't torture us with that again
He was put on the mandatory spot indeed, you can't call him a real champ, he never won any match ever against any real champ.

It's ridiculous somehow that he's ranked at all by the WBC, he would probably lose against LaRon Mitchell for example.
The WBC is as corrupt as it can be.
Outside of the so called champ, AJ has a nice record against the WBC ranked guys.
1: Beaten
2: Beaten
3: Next
4: Rather fought a bum instead of AJ and still lost, never fought any ranked guy
5: refuses to fight AJ
6: Beaten
7: Beaten
8: New
9: New
10: Lost against a guy AJ already won against
11: Lost against a guy AJ already won against
12: New
13: Beaten
14: Part of the scam, never fought any current ranked guy
15: Lost against a guy AJ already won against

The so called champ on the other hand only fought the rank 4 and the rank 14, both guys that never fought any of the ranked boxers. At the same time their champ clearly ducked AJ and on top of that the WBC rank 1, the rank 3, most likely also ducked the rank 6, and ducked the rank 11.
Long story short, only an idiot wouldn't consider AJ to be the real champ and actually, their so called champ hasn't even proven to be better then anyone ranked by the WBC that AJ already fought and neither against any of the ranked guys who even lost against those. In fact it hasn't even been proven pyramid wise that the WBC champ is better then the current rank 15 of them.
ASSDFUCKED GO AWAY
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Damn! How TF could he possibly have known ? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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If Whyte beats Parker he will become the Back up Wembley Stadium fight if Wilder won't fight Aj.
Fury will be ready in about 12months
Usyk will be a HW also.
Forgetting Wilder.
Aj next fights
Povetkin Sept 2018
Whyte April 2019
Fury Late 2019
Usyk early 2020
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astradamus wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 12:02And who will Wilder fight meanwhile?
Whilst waiting patiently for his big payday against Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder will almost certainly continue to face fellow Haymon stablemate opponents, such as:

• Dominic Breazeale
• Charles Martin
• Adam Kownacki
• Oscar Rivas
• Izuagbe Ugonoh

There is also the likelihood that ‘The Bronze Bomber’ will engage in rematches against other PBC stablemates, such as:

• Luis Ortiz
• Artur Szpilka
• Gerald Washington

I have a feeling that the WBC will continue their partnership with Haymon and steer Wilder away from facing fighters that aren’t part of the PBC roster, as we have already witnessed with the Dillian Whyte situation.

For the record, seven out of the eight world title fights that Deontay Wilder has competed in has been against an opponent that was a fellow Al Haymon stablemate.

Deontay Wilder will only be allowed to defend his WBC title against an opponent not affiliated with Al Haymon under one of two scenarios, which are: to receive a mega-payday (as per the farcical negotiations with AJ); or to face a challenger that poses absolutely no threat to his unbeaten record (as we witnessed with the Johann Duhaupas bout).
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Joshua will be fighting mandatories most of the time from now on so i'd guess:
  • Povetkin next
  • then IBF, so Pulev?
  • then a voluntary (Whyte/Miller)/WBO mandatory(Whyte/Parker)?
  • then Wilder if that comes off
For Wilder i'd guess Breazeale, Martin/Kownacki, Ortiz rematch then AJ
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Post by Enlightened-One »

joshj909 wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 05:43 Joshua will be fighting mandatories most of the time from now on so i'd guess:
  • Povetkin next
  • then IBF, so Pulev?
  • then a voluntary (Whyte/Miller)/WBO mandatory(Whyte/Parker)?
  • then Wilder if that comes off
For Wilder i'd guess Breazeale, Martin/Kownacki, Ortiz rematch then AJ
You've got it pretty much spot on. :TU:

I really hope Dillian Whyte beats Joseph Parker though, because I couldn't bear watching a rematch between the Kiwi and AJ.
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Post by JGonsalves »

If Wilder wants to increase his negotiation leverage for the unification with Joshua he should either grab the only other legitimate title which is the lineal from Tyson Fury, or increase his UK exposure and do a voluntary across the pond vs the only available top 15 WBC UK fighter which is Hughie Fury.
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JGonsalves wrote: 04 Jul 2018, 14:40 If Wilder wants to increase his negotiation leverage for the unification with Joshua he should either grab the only other legitimate title which is the lineal from Tyson Fury, or increase his UK exposure and do a voluntary across the pond vs the only available top 15 WBC UK fighter which is Hughie Fury.
He was offered a career high payday to do just that with Whyte, which could also have been classed as a mandatory (not now though) and he rejected it.
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