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British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 08:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Anthony Joshua
2. (2.) Carl Frampton
3. (3.) George Groves
4. (4.) Billy Joe Saunders
5. (5.) James DeGale
6. (6.) Ryan Burnett
7. (7.) Josh Warrington
8. (8.) Tony Bellew
9. (9.) Anthony Crolla
10. (10.) Kell Brook

11. (11.) Khalid Yafai
12. (22.) Josh Taylor
13. (12.) Lee Selby
14. (13.) Luke Campbell
15. (14.) Tyson Fury
16. (15.) Chris Eubank Jr.
17. (16.) Callum Smith
18. (23.) Gavin McDonnell
19. (17.) Jamie McDonnell
20. (19.) Scott Quigg

21. (27.) Martin Murray
22. (20.) Amir Khan
23. (21.) Dillian Whyte
24. (18.) Terry Flanagan
25. (24.) John Ryder
26. (RE.) Jack Catterall
27. (NE.) Lewis Ritson
28. (25.) Hughie Fury
29. (26.) James Tennyson
30. (28.) Ricky Burns

Out - (29.) Sam Eggington
Out - (30.) Liam Smith

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 08:01
by Horse
Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 08:16
by jlh
Interesting Gavin is now rated higher than Jamie. Props to Gavin stepping out that shadow even if it was a small 8 stone one.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 08:17
by KiwiRider
Nice one :TU:
Impressive jump up for Taylor- and deserved.
If he isn't arguably the #1 SLW in the world, he is right up there now.

Horse- are the McDonnells' the right way around?

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 08:38
by Boxerbeetle
Needless to say, Fury shouldn’t be anywhere near this list as he hasn’t had a significant win for nearly 3 years.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 12:24
by ewenhay
It's a pretty good list these days. My only comment would be that the gap between Crolla and Burns is too wide. I think Crolla is ranked far too high and Burns a little bit low.

Other than that, I think it's a pretty good job overall

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 13:21
by Stuarty
Good list :TU: Crolla a bit high for me and also 6 in the list is being a bit kind to Burnett. We've still to see the best of him against a top guy at bantam. ZZ (can't be arsed even attempting to spell that one) was a solid win but he's not had a KO in years and I find him a bit of a boring watch but that's just my personal taste. I suppose. Good to see Taylor jump up so high as well :TU:

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 14:18
by forcefraser
Khan has beaten Maidana, Aleksander, Collazo, Kotelnik, Malinaggi and Phil le farkin Greco. Murray has beaten? A 12 year old Blackwell and Max Bursak?

Change their places immediately or I’ll have no choice but to end you.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 14:27
by Boxerbeetle
forcefraser wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 14:18 Khan has beaten Maidana, Aleksander, Collazo, Kotelnik, Malinaggi and Phil le farkin Greco. Murray has beaten? A 12 year old Blackwell and Max Bursak?

Change their places immediately or I’ll have no choice but to end you.
Ah good, we haven’t had a ‘Murray is too high’ argument for a while now. Horse has a bizarrely high opinion of Murray which is shared by no-one else.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 14:35
by Boxerbeetle
:lol:

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 15:26
by DrDuke
Fury can be higher, he's formally still a lineal champion after all.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 15:47
by dr_devious
Good list, I'd have Yafai and Selby in the top ten with Bellew and Crolla out of the top ten

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 15:55
by Mimmy
Boxerbeetle wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 08:38 Needless to say, Fury shouldn’t be anywhere near this list as he hasn’t had a significant win for nearly 3 years.
The WBC is currently considering placing Fury just outside the top 15 in their next rankings. So unfortunately Horse has it spot on this month.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 16:01
by Boxerbeetle
Mimmy wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 15:55
Boxerbeetle wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 08:38 Needless to say, Fury shouldn’t be anywhere near this list as he hasn’t had a significant win for nearly 3 years.
The WBC is currently considering placing Fury just outside the top 15 in their next rankings. So unfortunately Horse has it spot on this month.
Who cares what those corrupt alphabet organisations do

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 16:06
by Mimmy
Boxerbeetle wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 16:01
Mimmy wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 15:55
Boxerbeetle wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 08:38 Needless to say, Fury shouldn’t be anywhere near this list as he hasn’t had a significant win for nearly 3 years.
The WBC is currently considering placing Fury just outside the top 15 in their next rankings. So unfortunately Horse has it spot on this month.
Who cares what those corrupt alphabet organisations do
It's the world we live in.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 16:06
by Horse
jlh wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 08:16 Interesting Gavin is now rated higher than Jamie. Props to Gavin stepping out that shadow even if it was a small 8 stone one.
:TU:

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 16:08
by Horse
KiwiRider wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 08:17 Nice one :TU:
Impressive jump up for Taylor- and deserved.
If he isn't arguably the #1 SLW in the world, he is right up there now.

Horse- are the McDonnells' the right way around?
Yes.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 17:29
by Stuarty
forcefraser wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 14:18 Khan has beaten Maidana, Aleksander, Collazo, Kotelnik, Malinaggi and Phil le farkin Greco. Murray has beaten? A 12 year old Blackwell and Max Bursak?

Change their places immediately or I’ll have no choice but to end you.
:lol:

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 07:07
by Horse
Boxerbeetle wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 08:38 Needless to say, Fury shouldn’t be anywhere near this list as he hasn’t had a significant win for nearly 3 years.
He's still the lineal champion and I'd expect that he could still beat a world class opponent even in his current state.

If he keeps fighting chumps then he will continue to drop.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 07:32
by Horse
ewenhay wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 12:24 It's a pretty good list these days. My only comment would be that the gap between Crolla and Burns is too wide. I think Crolla is ranked far too high and Burns a little bit low.

Other than that, I think it's a pretty good job overall
If Burns had beat someone decent since the Crolla fight then the gap would be a lot smaller.

If Burns could beat someone like Coyle, Ritson etc. then I'd be looking at putting him straight back in the top 20, maybe top 15.

However, he's been pretty inactive and he just beat a guy currently ranked outside the world's top 500. I can't really move him up after a win like that.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 09:07
by MarkMcBurney
Eubank Jr FAR too high.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 09:19
by cocka09
I'd have Frampton and Burnett higher but a pretty solid list. :TU:

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 09:25
by TopGun
Few years ago this top 10 would have been strong world contenders, but with Brook, Khan, Quigg Frampton etc losing British boxing on the world stage has taken a beating recently....

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 11:53
by ewenhay
Horse wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 07:32
ewenhay wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 12:24 It's a pretty good list these days. My only comment would be that the gap between Crolla and Burns is too wide. I think Crolla is ranked far too high and Burns a little bit low.

Other than that, I think it's a pretty good job overall
If Burns had beat someone decent since the Crolla fight then the gap would be a lot smaller.

If Burns could beat someone like Coyle, Ritson etc. then I'd be looking at putting him straight back in the top 20, maybe top 15.

However, he's been pretty inactive and he just beat a guy currently ranked outside the world's top 500. I can't really move him up after a win like that.
That's fair enough RE Burns. Crolla is too high for me. He's not exactly busy either. I understand why you've got him higher because he got the decision against Burns and had two fights with Linares before that but the reality is there's a paper thin difference between Burns and Crolla at this stage.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2018

Posted: 03 Jul 2018, 05:39
by Horse
Stuarty wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 13:21 Good list :TU: Crolla a bit high for me and also 6 in the list is being a bit kind to Burnett. We've still to see the best of him against a top guy at bantam. ZZ (can't be arsed even attempting to spell that one) was a solid win but he's not had a KO in years and I find him a bit of a boring watch but that's just my personal taste. I suppose.
Burnett is perhaps on the high side. Haskins and Zhakiyanov are not the highest calibre of world level wins, but he beat them both very clearly and he did manage to unify the IBF and WBA titles in beating them.

The gap between 6th place and 14th place isn't very big and there could be a lot of changes there by the end of the year if most/all of these guys fight again.
Stuarty wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 13:21Good to see Taylor jump up so high as well :TU:
With Taylor entering the WBSS tournament he could be in contention for the top spot if he can win it.