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KiwiRider
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Bubble Wrapped Boxers

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What's your list of bubble wrapped boxers?
Who is being protected the most?

My list;
Detonay Wilder
Gilberto Ramirez
Jose Ramirez
Adonis Stevenson

Anyone else to add? Maybe a Charlo or two?
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Wilder and Stevenson were just in tough bouts and Stevenson looks set to fight Gvozdik next.

Brook is bubble wrapped when not fghting the likes of GGG or Spence. Apart from those 2 and Porter, who has he fought?

Apparently WBC have removed him from rankings for not being in the Clean program.
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That's like a million-dollar idea! ... I would definitely buy a pair ...
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KiwiRider wrote: 06 Jul 2018, 19:42 What's your list of bubble wrapped boxers?
Who is being protected the most?

My list;
Detonay Wilder
Gilberto Ramirez
Jose Ramirez
Adonis Stevenson

Anyone else to add? Maybe a Charlo or two?
Gilberto Ramirez is a solid candidate. Has been a belt-holder for a while and maybe 3/4 fighters on his record could be described as "OK" at best.

Wilder and Adonis have had patches of poor opposition but are both coming off tough, top fights - doesn't seem like the right time to criticise them to me. Lets see what they do next.

Jose Ramirez has really just started his time as a beltholder - Reed and Imam seem like an alright start, maybe not amazing but not cotton-wool, not yet anyway. If we're 18 months down the line and still no fights with Prograis, Taylor, Postol, M Garcia, whoever and we should re-examine but it is too soon to say for now.

Charlos, nah. You might as well include Beterbiev and Gvozdyk is you start going down that road (meaning, guys who would likely take better fights if they could get them).

Seems harsh, but maybe Jerwin Ancajas and Khalid Yafai might be candidates, given the rest of the talent in their division anyway.
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Khalid Yafai?
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KiwiRider wrote: 06 Jul 2018, 19:42 What's your list of bubble wrapped boxers?
Who is being protected the most?

My list;
Detonay Wilder
Gilberto Ramirez
Jose Ramirez
Adonis Stevenson

Anyone else to add? Maybe a Charlo or two?
He's retired now, but David Rodriguez definitely qualifies.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/47041
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Shawn O'Grady wins the all-time B/W award ...
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Of course, Wilder and Stevenson are leaders of the list. However, Stevenson is likely to be less protected recently and that's logical, he's old fart and can retire soon anyway. So, The Tuscaloosa Windmill is now an undisputed leader in this cathegory. He has fought Ortiz, but he's now back to his notorious tendency.
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Heretic wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 03:46 Khalid Yafai?
Fair shout...
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Sequitorian wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 06:07 Shawn O'Grady wins the all-time B/W award ...
Lots of meaningless fights, but Sean fought the likes of Danny Lopez, Jim Watt and he beat Hilmer Kenty. He has a padded record, sure, but he fought some top fighters.
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Anthony Yarde so far. Trying to hype him up to be this beast who's gonna steamroll everyone but seem reluctant to even match him at domestic level and instead bring in washed up Euro bums for him to look good against. Apparently he's hiding glass if rumours are true.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 08:30
Sequitorian wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 06:07 Shawn O'Grady wins the all-time B/W award ...
Lots of meaningless fights, but Sean fought the likes of Danny Lopez, Jim Watt and he beat Hilmer Kenty. He has a padded record, sure, but he fought some top fighters.
It's worse than that ... he had like 2 significant wins in 86 fights ... Kenty & Gonzalo Montellano (whoever he was) ...

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/12004

...
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Stuarty wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 08:36 Anthony Yarde so far. Trying to hype him up to be this beast who's gonna steamroll everyone but seem reluctant to even match him at domestic level and instead bring in washed up Euro bums for him to look good against. Apparently he's hiding glass if rumours are true.
im not at all convinced that burton or buglioni are any or much better then the likes of skejoca (drew for ebu title), sek, and averlant. burton has never won above english level so i dont even see how hed clearly be a step up.

so much is made about him not facing domestic opponents, but the domestic opponents are really not all that good for the most part. its lol that people talk about him being protected from someone who couldnt beat lee markham and another guy whose best win is miles shinkwin

johnson looks good but he pretty much just burst onto the scene and straight away got a world title shot

yarde could defo use a step up but i dont at all see how the domestic scene guys are really all that much of a step
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Sequitorian wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 08:41
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 08:30
Sequitorian wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 06:07 Shawn O'Grady wins the all-time B/W award ...
Lots of meaningless fights, but Sean fought the likes of Danny Lopez, Jim Watt and he beat Hilmer Kenty. He has a padded record, sure, but he fought some top fighters.
It's worse than that ... he had like 2 significant wins in 86 fights ... Kenty & Gonzalo Montellano (whoever he was) ...

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/12004

...
I get that, but he went to Scotland to fight Jim Watt and Danny Lopez is California. That is not bubblewrapping. Defiinitely a padded record.
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jamamb wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 09:32
Stuarty wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 08:36 Anthony Yarde so far. Trying to hype him up to be this beast who's gonna steamroll everyone but seem reluctant to even match him at domestic level and instead bring in washed up Euro bums for him to look good against. Apparently he's hiding glass if rumours are true.
im not at all convinced that burton or buglioni are any or much better then the likes of skejoca (drew for ebu title), sek, and averlant. burton has never won above english level so i dont even see how hed clearly be a step up.

so much is made about him not facing domestic opponents, but the domestic opponents are really not all that good for the most part. its lol that people talk about him being protected from someone who couldnt beat lee markham and another guy whose best win is miles shinkwin

johnson looks good but he pretty much just burst onto the scene and straight away got a world title shot

yarde could defo use a step up but i dont at all see how the domestic scene guys are really all that much of a step
The guys you mention certainly aren't anything special but they would come in to the fight with drive and ambition. Something most of these euro bums don't bring half the time. The British guys would possibly be bombed out as well of course but I'd like to see him try domestically before whipping these types. What's wrong with trying your hand at British level especially if there's apparently nothing to fear? I don't think there's any doubt Yarde has been protected so far IMO.
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Sequitorian wrote: 06 Jul 2018, 21:36 That's like a million-dollar idea! ... I would definitely buy a pair ...
Me too. I need some new drawers
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Both Charlos for sure.
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Lamar Clark.... All-Time Bubblewrap Champion
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HomicideHenry wrote: 08 Jul 2018, 22:13 Lamar Clark.... All-Time Bubblewrap Champion
:bow: yes great call on that one
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How about Diego De La Hoya?

I've seen him fight more than 7 times. And now at 21-0 his record looks pretty decent;
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/662406
But after watching the fights he has been in 7 out of the last 9, he is a bit rubbish. Being cousin to the golden cross dresser does give you some breaks, I think Diego is taking the piss a bit
:maybe:
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Stuarty wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 09:47
jamamb wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 09:32
Stuarty wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 08:36 Anthony Yarde so far. Trying to hype him up to be this beast who's gonna steamroll everyone but seem reluctant to even match him at domestic level and instead bring in washed up Euro bums for him to look good against. Apparently he's hiding glass if rumours are true.
im not at all convinced that burton or buglioni are any or much better then the likes of skejoca (drew for ebu title), sek, and averlant. burton has never won above english level so i dont even see how hed clearly be a step up.

so much is made about him not facing domestic opponents, but the domestic opponents are really not all that good for the most part. its lol that people talk about him being protected from someone who couldnt beat lee markham and another guy whose best win is miles shinkwin

johnson looks good but he pretty much just burst onto the scene and straight away got a world title shot

yarde could defo use a step up but i dont at all see how the domestic scene guys are really all that much of a step
The guys you mention certainly aren't anything special but they would come in to the fight with drive and ambition. Something most of these euro bums don't bring half the time. The British guys would possibly be bombed out as well of course but I'd like to see him try domestically before whipping these types. What's wrong with trying your hand at British level especially if there's apparently nothing to fear? I don't think there's any doubt Yarde has been protected so far IMO.
He does look to be bypassing the domestic scene, which is a shame, but it seems to me that it is more down to the promotional dispute between Warren and Hearn than anything else.

Although Warren does have form when it comes to protecting his fighters.
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KiwiRider wrote: 08 Jul 2018, 23:13 How about Diego De La Hoya?

I've seen him fight more than 7 times. And now at 21-0 his record looks pretty decent;
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/662406
But after watching the fights he has been in 7 out of the last 9, he is a bit rubbish. Being cousin to the golden cross dresser does give you some breaks, I think Diego is taking the piss a bit
:maybe:
This seems to be the case for several fighters with famous names.

Trey Morrison and Connor Benn have also built nice looking records without actually fighting anyone of note.
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Gary Russell Jr's opposition has generally been soft. Lomachenko aside.
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keirw wrote: 09 Jul 2018, 11:10
KiwiRider wrote: 08 Jul 2018, 23:13 How about Diego De La Hoya?

I've seen him fight more than 7 times. And now at 21-0 his record looks pretty decent;
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/662406
But after watching the fights he has been in 7 out of the last 9, he is a bit rubbish. Being cousin to the golden cross dresser does give you some breaks, I think Diego is taking the piss a bit
:maybe:
This seems to be the case for several fighters with famous names.

Trey Morrison and Connor Benn have also built nice looking records without actually fighting anyone of note.
I wouldn't call Diego protected. He was put in with some experienced dudes early in his career. I'm not crazy about his competition right now, though.
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