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Yeah, like Joshua is some sort of brain surgeon.

Boxing attracts all types.
Look back at some of the greatest fighters of the last

Wilder is actually better behaved than Tyson was outside of the ring
Look at Floyd's 4 counts of sexual battery.
Look at Ray Leonard's behaviour during his 2 year hiatus.
It's nothing new.
As for fighters supposedly ducking fights, you need to understand how little control some of them have in selecting opponents.

Boxing isn't a beauty contest. Nor is it an IQ test. Casuals

Is Mentaly any relation of the Klitschkos?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 16:19 Boxing attracts all types.
Look back at some of the greatest fighters of the last

Wilder is actually better behaved than Tyson was outside of the ring
Look at Floyd's 4 counts of sexual battery.
Look at Ray Leonard's behaviour during his 2 year hiatus.
It's nothing new.
As for fighters supposedly ducking fights, you need to understand how little control some of them have in selecting opponents.

Wilder is incomparably better behaved than Tyson was. Sure he acts like a loud jerk but that's the fashion in US boxing. Sure i complain about his crooked win over Ortiz, but again that's US boxing.

I particularly agree with the last sentence.

As for the OP, i only agree with your assessment of Wlad for the time he fought Povetkin.

Id like boxing to be a moron free zone too, but aside from notable anomalies, it doesn't tend to recruit its participants and behind the scenes controllers and peripheral characters from the Mensa society. I'd like boxing forums to be moron free zones too, but likewise.

On the positive side, there are some very smart, humble, and very helpful boxers.
Boxers that conduct themselves like true champions. Guys who use their fame and money for the greater good.
Either by giving back to the sport, or working within charities.
There are boxers who have used their money for higher education.
Unfortunately the dipsticks with the biggest mouths usually drown out the quiet achievers in the press, so we don't often get to hear of all the good works being done by the true gentlemen of the sport.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 16:13 Yeah, like Joshua is some sort of brain surgeon.

No, he's a boxer. He did do an apprentice brick laying job for a while but he's never entered into the medical field, especially not as a surgeon. That would take years of various studying and internships & I would have noticed.

The US media encourages the gross behavior of modern boxers with their "sports entertainment" wrestling-style "pressers", and the so-called boxing fans on the forums complain that a fighter is "boring" if he behaves like a gentleman and a sportsman, which is how almost all boxers used behave, and still do in other parts of the world.

Sorono wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 15:52 Over the past 15 years we had all sorts of moronic boxers. Mostly black american boxer.

I want boxing to be a moron free zone. I am very happy floyd, wlad and ward are gone. Now i hope debil never gets the opportunity to fight aj and never gets a big payday!

I like the way you threw Wlad in the mix to make your diatribe seem "non-racial" but I'm not convinced.

You remind me a lot of that Eastern Euro college kid (used to come here a lot about 5-10 years back) who hated AMERICAN blacks (while giving most other blacks a pass). Cant remember his name but I'm pretty sure he got banned for racist comments.

x2x wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 17:35 The US media encourages the gross behavior of modern boxers with their "sports entertainment" wrestling-style "pressers", and the so-called boxing fans on the forums complain that a fighter is "boring" if he behaves like a gentleman and a sportsman, which is how almost all boxers used behave, and still do in other parts of the world.

Of course non-American fighters such as Chisora, Saunders and Whyte all act like perfect gentlemen at pressers.

Who's encouraging them?

SenorPipino wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 18:09

x2x wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 17:35 The US media encourages the gross behavior of modern boxers with their "sports entertainment" wrestling-style "pressers", and the so-called boxing fans on the forums complain that a fighter is "boring" if he behaves like a gentleman and a sportsman, which is how almost all boxers used behave, and still do in other parts of the world.

Of course non-American fighters such as Chisora, Saunders and Whyte all act like perfect gentlemen at pressers.

Who's encouraging them?

Quite so. Correction: US and UK.

The easiest way to a moron free zone. Is to ban racist idiots like yourself.
Come on mods do something about this crap

tiny_acres wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 18:45 The easiest way to a moron free zone. Is to ban racist idiots like yourself.
Come on mods do something about this crap

There is nothing racist about by remark.

Wouldnt you aggree that a lot of black american boxers act in a aggressive negativ way? Wilder, mayweather, charlos, broner, shakur, miller.

I dont see this kind of behaviour by eastern euro boxers like loma, wlad, GGG, usyk, gvozdyk, bertebiev.

Its not racist, its criticism.

Sorono wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 19:40

tiny_acres wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 18:45 The easiest way to a moron free zone. Is to ban racist idiots like yourself.
Come on mods do something about this crap

There is nothing racist about by remark.

Wouldnt you aggree that a lot of black american boxers act in a aggressive negativ way? Wilder, mayweather, charlos, broner, shakur, miller.

I dont see this kind of behaviour by eastern euro boxers like loma, wlad, GGG, usyk, gvozdyk, bertebiev.

Its not racist, its criticism.

Need I remind you that Andrew Golota was one of the biggest thugs in boxing history, both in & out of the ring?

The fact that you go out of your way to PRAISE Eastern Euro boxers instead of Latinos, American non-blacks, etc makes one think you are dont care much for America, let alone American blacks.



I'm not defending THUGS who are black like Broner, Tyson, etc. I despise them and their thuggishness as much as the next guy, but NOT because they are black, but rather because they are THUGS/CRIMINALS.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 16:13 Yeah, like Joshua is some sort of brain surgeon.

Compared to Wilder he's a friggin' Rocket-Scientist ...

Boxing is a gentleman's sport ... period ...

... (another ellipsis, actually ... 'cause there's a lot more to it than that) ...

Best Coast wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 20:39

Sorono wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 19:40

tiny_acres wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 18:45 The easiest way to a moron free zone. Is to ban racist idiots like yourself.
Come on mods do something about this crap

There is nothing racist about by remark.

Wouldnt you aggree that a lot of black american boxers act in a aggressive negativ way? Wilder, mayweather, charlos, broner, shakur, miller.

I dont see this kind of behaviour by eastern euro boxers like loma, wlad, GGG, usyk, gvozdyk, bertebiev.

Its not racist, its criticism.

Need I remind you that Andrew Golota was one of the biggest thugs in boxing history, both in & out of the ring?

The fact that you go out of your way to PRAISE Eastern Euro boxers instead of Latinos, American non-blacks, etc makes one think you are dont care much for America, let alone American blacks.



I'm not defending THUGS who are black like Broner, Tyson, etc. I despise them and their thuggishness as much as the next guy, but NOT because they are black, but rather because they are THUGS/CRIMINALS.

The fact that you dont talk about chinese boxer, let alone phillipine boxer makes me want to think that you dont care much for asian boxer.

seems like a culture thing, in us and increasingly uk 'beef' and big talk is strategically used a lot to generate hype, more so then in east europe or asian boxing. plus language barriers mean guys from those areas arent really doing as much big talk that we can understand in english media

since blacks make up such a high portion of us boxers and there are so many good black boxers , theres naturally, gonna be plenty of black talkers we see. theres hardly any notable white us boxers so we dont really hear from them. vinny paz was one and he just got arrested

I don´t care if boxer is an idiot but i understand why people are mad about it. Here where i live, boxing is popular sport. Sportsmen always was a role models. Look at Adrien Broner. Obviously Floyd Mayweather was his hero. Unfortunately AB is 300% more idiot than Floyd was, but with 30% of his boxing skill.

Some of the champions of the past - and present - are among the most dysfunctional people walking around.

I doubt boxing is going to be turned into an IQ test or a beauty contest any time soon.

Best Coast wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 20:39

Sorono wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 19:40

tiny_acres wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 18:45 The easiest way to a moron free zone. Is to ban racist idiots like yourself.
Come on mods do something about this crap

There is nothing racist about by remark.

Wouldnt you aggree that a lot of black american boxers act in a aggressive negativ way? Wilder, mayweather, charlos, broner, shakur, miller.

I dont see this kind of behaviour by eastern euro boxers like loma, wlad, GGG, usyk, gvozdyk, bertebiev.

Its not racist, its criticism.

Need I remind you that Andrew Golota was one of the biggest thugs in boxing history, both in & out of the ring?

The fact that you go out of your way to PRAISE Eastern Euro boxers instead of Latinos, American non-blacks, etc makes one think you are dont care much for America, let alone American blacks.



I'm not defending THUGS who are black like Broner, Tyson, etc. I despise them and their thuggishness as much as the next guy, but NOT because they are black, but rather because they are THUGS/CRIMINALS.

You're making a valuable point, but Golota is not even close to being one of the biggest thugs in boxing history. That's a massive stretch.

Golota? I just wrote a big post about him on the boxing history board. He's flaky, and he is, or was, mixed up with the Polish mob, but he's no common criminal street thug, like Broner or something.

RandomUsername wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 17:48 How can boxing be a moron free zone when there lives a small or big moron inside of every man woman and child?

Steady on mate. That's a bit filler-sof-ickle for a boxing forum innit?

The trick is to keep that moron inside hidden from view. I've never mastered that though

candyslim wrote: ↑19 Jul 2018, 02:31

RandomUsername wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 17:48 How can boxing be a moron free zone when there lives a small or big moron inside of every man woman and child?

Steady on mate. That's a bit filler-sof-ickle for a boxing forum innit?

The trick is to keep that moron inside hidden from view. I've never mastered that though

Punch yourself in the head every now and then, like Tyson Fury does. That will show your inner moron who's boss, and passerbys will see that you are a manly man and give you the respect that you deserve .

Actually, when i was a kid my left hand would sometines get in a fight with my right hand. Lefty was pretty slick, but Righty had the KO punch. I was the referee and i ran an honest show, not like Las Vegas or New York. My hands rarely fight anymore, though. They're more mature now. I wish i could say that about my feet.

You know I'm beginning to see that family resemblance to your great-great uncle Grigory of St Petersburg and Siberia fame. Have you ever been tempted by the monastic way of life?