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I really think so..............

Called it long ago. Now I'm expecting to see the bandwagon since this fight. It was written long ago. Usyk was always the future of the HW division. His reign will be phenomenal.

He has real chances to do it, I'd say.

..Joshua is of course a different kettle of fish..Gassiev looked like a limited slugger today..

greg wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:24 ..Joshua is of course a different kettle of fish..Gassiev looked like a limited slugger today..

....because Usyk made him look like that.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:27

greg wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:24 ..Joshua is of course a different kettle of fish..Gassiev looked like a limited slugger today..

....because Usyk made him look like that.

This !

greg wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:24 ..Joshua is of course a different kettle of fish..Gassiev looked like a limited slugger today..

Usyk made him unable to settle an aim. Gassiev couldn't find any openings.

If Usyk has a chin that can take a world class heavyweight punch then yeh he could potentially beat Joshua. Still need the answer to that question though.

Did he say anything about moving up in the post fight interview?

Usyk has a shot so I wont rule him out, but I give him about 25-30% to beat Joshua who is too big, with just too much of a height and reach advantage. After a master class outing like today by Usyk it's not surprising that so many are jumping on the Usyk > Joshua bandwagon, but it's a HUGE jump from Gassiev to Joshua and I dont just mean in terms of size.

I also dont rule out the possibility that if Usyk dominates 2-3 top-notch heavyweights before facing Joshua that AJ and Hearn will find a good reason NOT to fight Usyk (early retirement, etc)

marvelous marv wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:33 If Usyk has a chin that can take a world class heavyweight punch then yeh he could potentially beat Joshua. Still need the answer to that question though.

Gassiev hits as hard as a world class HW, so does Briedis. You got the answer twice over, but you don't want to admit it.

marvelous marv wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:33 If Usyk has a chin that can take a world class heavyweight punch then yeh he could potentially beat Joshua. Still need the answer to that question though.

He will most likely be able to avoid it. Actually Parker did that, so Usyk really can do it.

Best Coast wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:34 Usyk has a shot so I wont rule him out, but I give him about 25-30% to beat Joshua who is too big, with just too much of a height and reach advantage. After a master class outing like today by Usyk it's not surprising that so many are jumping on the Usyk > Joshua bandwagon, but it's a HUGE jump from Gassiev to Joshua and I dont just mean in terms of size.

I also dont rule out the possibility that if Usyk dominates 2-3 top-notch heavyweights before facing Joshua that AJ and Hearn will find a good reason NOT to fight Usyk (early retirement, etc)

It's not a huge jump at all. Gassiev is a CW that can make HW, easily. Usyk was schooling big guys like Joshua, arguably better fighters too, in the amateurs and WSB. It's going to be easier for Usyk at HW than at CW.

greg wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:24 ..Joshua is of course a different kettle of fish..Gassiev looked like a limited slugger today..

Maris Breidis gave Usyk FAR more problems than Gassiev did: 113-115, 114-114, 113-115.

Usyk's sheer domination of Gassiev is fresh in everyone's mind because it just happened.

Best Coast wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:43

greg wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:24 ..Joshua is of course a different kettle of fish..Gassiev looked like a limited slugger today..

Maris Breidis gave Usyk FAR more problems than Gassiev did: 113-115, 114-114, 113-115.

Usyk's sheer domination of Gassiev is fresh in everyone's mind because it just happened.

Guys like Briedis give Usyk fits. That's his weakness. One of the reasons why I don't outright favor Usyk over Haye at CW.

Athletic guys that are his size are Usyk's kryptonite. Already knew that, which is why I wanted very much for Usyk to move up to HW quickly.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:35

marvelous marv wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:33 If Usyk has a chin that can take a world class heavyweight punch then yeh he could potentially beat Joshua. Still need the answer to that question though.

Gassiev hits as hard as a world class HW, so does Briedis. You got the answer twice over, but you don't want to admit it.

Bravo ! Mexi-Box you are right 100 % .
Just now, Usyk is the only absolutely dominant champion in his division. Crawford has been dominant at LWW last year, but I doubt he will be so successful at WW (it will be very difficult for him to beat Spence). Lomachenko will have to beat Mikey to prove the same at LWW (if Loma had stayed at SFW he would have been the dominant champion, too). I have to mention Prograis, too, but honestly speaking the competition at LWW is pretty weak nowadays.
I feel that Fury will be more dangerous for Usyk than Joshua or Wilder at HW.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:35

marvelous marv wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:33 If Usyk has a chin that can take a world class heavyweight punch then yeh he could potentially beat Joshua. Still need the answer to that question though.

Gassiev hits as hard as a world class HW, so does Briedis. You got the answer twice over, but you don't want to admit it.

I am very much leaning toward Usyk in this match up.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:37

Best Coast wrote: ↑21 Jul 2018, 18:34 Usyk has a shot so I wont rule him out, but I give him about 25-30% to beat Joshua who is too big, with just too much of a height and reach advantage. After a master class outing like today by Usyk it's not surprising that so many are jumping on the Usyk > Joshua bandwagon, but it's a HUGE jump from Gassiev to Joshua and I dont just mean in terms of size.

I also dont rule out the possibility that if Usyk dominates 2-3 top-notch heavyweights before facing Joshua that AJ and Hearn will find a good reason NOT to fight Usyk (early retirement, etc)

It's not a huge jump at all. Gassiev is a CW that can make HW, easily. Usyk was schooling big guys like Joshua, arguably better fighters too, in the amateurs and WSB. It's going to be easier for Usyk at HW than at CW.

On paper it's not hard to postulate how Usyk can handle Joshua, but that's why boxing matches are always fought IN THE RING and not on paper.

Until we SEE Joshua and Usyk actually fight each other in the ring, everything else is just words and speculation!!

TIME will tell, once they step into the ring, IF it turns out that they do. Speculation makes sports more fun. but it's STILL just speculation until it actually happens.

Remember....Usyk will never fight Joshua..............

usyk can be a good hw but dont see him beating aj or wilder. joseph parker? sure....

He's too small and doesn't have the power to hurt AJ and keep him at bay, also it appears he doesn't like getting hit, AJ can hit.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑22 Jul 2018, 04:50 He's too small and doesn't have the power to hurt AJ and keep him at bay, also it appears he doesn't like getting hit, AJ can hit.

Nobody likes getting hit. Usyk had shown he has a granite chin though. He's been caught flush by power punchers and not even reacted.

Verdi wrote: ↑22 Jul 2018, 05:06

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑22 Jul 2018, 04:50 He's too small and doesn't have the power to hurt AJ and keep him at bay, also it appears he doesn't like getting hit, AJ can hit.

Nobody likes getting hit. Usyk had shown he has a granite chin though. He's been caught flush by power punchers and not even reacted.

AJ is a different level though, he's very powerful and he's got a serious dig.

Heretic wrote: ↑22 Jul 2018, 03:34 Remember....Usyk will never fight Joshua..............

Why not ?

The bandwagon is well and truly rolling.

Joshua too big and hits too hard v Usyk. He boxed well last night against a very one dimensional Gassiev, but the only one who was rocked was Usyk when one right hand landed. If he were to meet Joshua they'd trade at some point and it's over for Usyk.