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DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 03:17 If it will be on and Garcia loses, Lomachenko fight will probably be thrown somewhere far away. And Garcia will lose to Spence almost for sure. That sucks. Lomachanko fight would have been much more interesting and competetive.

jockpunk wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 09:40 I absolutely hate this fight. Garcia is going to get killed and it takes a lot of the intrigue away from a loma fight or even a fight with someone like gervota davis.

jamamb wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 10:39 lol nah spence wins easily . but u want a msmatch then mght be a fght for you. garca would fnd the best at 140 plenty tough btw. lpnets = b level but he still won 4 rounds and went the distance easily. garcas totally physcally outmanned vs a large super strong 147 pounder such as spence. and spences hardly an oaf boxng wise. hes very sharp wth those shots.

and ya garcas such a managment genus ..thats why he was out 2.5 years of prime years

Abradolf Lincler wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 16:08 I feel like a broken record debating this whole situation. Garcia has become a politician since his long ordeal with Arum.

He's calling out Spence to throw people off the scent of the Lomachenko fight. It's clear as day that's the fight to make, provided Loma unifies against Beltran later this year. That sets up an undisputed match between him and Mikey next year.

If he calls out a fighter who's more dangerous, the rationale is that nobody can fault him for passing on Loma. The reality is that the fight poses far less risk to his reputation and standing. If he loses, he's supposed to. He still gets props for taking on the bigger man, and he remains a titlist at Lightweight. If he takes on Loma after Spence and loses, there's the ready made excuse that he isn't the same fighter as before (whether due to the weight fluctuations or the beating he could take).

However, if he goes after Loma and loses, there's no cushion. No excuse to be had. He's taking on a naturally smaller guy who is mostly considered a 50-50 fight, if Mikey isn't outright favored. He's also no longer a champ.

That said, I don't think he's realistically looking at either right now. He'll probably end up fighting Pacquiao for the bigger payday.

Which is fine for now, honestly. As long as he mans up within the next year.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 09:09

DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 03:17 If it will be on and Garcia loses, Lomachenko fight will probably be thrown somewhere far away. And Garcia will lose to Spence almost for sure. That sucks. Lomachanko fight would have been much more interesting and competetive.

If Garcia loses in bad fashion, the Lomachenko fight probably won't happen.

There even has to be a question of whether Garcia would ever return to 135, win or lose against Spence.

All this bouncing up and down in weight is not a good thing.

If Garcia puts up a competitive showing, even in defeat, versus Spence, then his stock soars. Except with those who nowadays consider a loss to be a call for retirement.

One thing's true-- if Garcia has the balls to climb into the ring with Spence, you'll look like an idiot if you continue to refer to him as a "cherry-picker "

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 17:06 I’m a huge fan of Garcia, and I really really don’t want to see this fight. Just can’t see how he’d have a chance against someone so much bigger and who is also highly skilled.

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Aug 2018, 22:04 ya, keep convincing yourself its gonna be an exception, and that everyone else has got it wrong

lol, you want a list of fights the majority got right? would be loooooooooooooong

and wtf cotto-martinez was really close odds

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Aug 2018, 22:10 cotto vs martinez was seen as competitively matched, certainly much more so then this. martinez had looked awful and old before and was down vs murray and many thought murray won

upsets happen, sometimes shocks, but dont count on it if this happens, spence will win w/o problem and overwhelm mikey. best case for mikey i see is maybe he wins some early round or two if spence starts slow, but then spence heats up and beats him up and stops him, and ppl say 'oh, mikey was very game in defeat'

but winning or being really competitive? nah. mikey is coming up a fifth division to face a far bigger, younger, excellent strong fighter. he hardly looked phenomenal or that strong at 140. if hed utterly destroyed an elite guy at 140 the way pac did to hatton then id be more open to the suggestion

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Aug 2018, 22:21 im not sure why you think an exceptional case like armstrongs helps your point really. it basically highlights how rare it is

the odds arent with mikey , with very good reason

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Aug 2018, 22:25 hey, go for it mikey, but you arent winning