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apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 03:07 I mean Fury is unfit and out of shape and he'd probably get stopped by Wilder if they fight.

candyslim wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 04:52 I think the timing of it stinks. Anybody think Sefer Seferi and a totally fukced Francesco Pianeta are adequate preparation for Deontay Wilder after three years out the ring, never mind three years of partying, abusing his body with booze, drugs and unhealthy food?.

Tyson is doing really well in his weight loss programme, and looking good in the gym but that's a world away from facing the hardest punching fighter in boxing.

Having said that it's probably catch 22 because if Tyson has a further two fights, beats good opposition and proves he's 90+% back to what he once was, he'll almost certainly find himself declared 'irrelevant in the division' and added to the list of opponents that Wilder wouldn't fight even for several times his biggest payday to date.

Thank the Lord we have a proper champion in AJ because Wilder is a tnuc

vidal wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 10:25 Why would he try to cash out against Wilder......... after 2 or 3 more fights he could get a much bigger pay day against Joshua.

My guess is, he doesn't fear Wilder. I'm not sure why he would.

ewenhay wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 10:36

vidal wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 10:25 Why would he try to cash out against Wilder......... after 2 or 3 more fights he could get a much bigger pay day against Joshua.

My guess is, he doesn't fear Wilder. I'm not sure why he would.

It's not all about Joshua though. Wilder and Fury could have a great fight then have a rematch that's even bigger making lots of money in the process. All roads don't lead to bending over and taking what you're offered by Hearn to fight Joshua.

Wilder v Fury is potentially a game changer at the top of the division. When the dust settles Joshua and Hearn may need the fight with the winner just as much as the other way round.

vidal wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 10:59

ewenhay wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 10:36

vidal wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 10:25 Why would he try to cash out against Wilder......... after 2 or 3 more fights he could get a much bigger pay day against Joshua.

My guess is, he doesn't fear Wilder. I'm not sure why he would.

It's not all about Joshua though. Wilder and Fury could have a great fight then have a rematch that's even bigger making lots of money in the process. All roads don't lead to bending over and taking what you're offered by Hearn to fight Joshua.

Wilder v Fury is potentially a game changer at the top of the division. When the dust settles Joshua and Hearn may need the fight with the winner just as much as the other way round.

The OP suggests Fury will take the money and run....... my contention is that, if that's his intention, a fight against Joshua would be more lucrative.

I actually agree, and I think he thinks he can beat Wilder and make an all British unification fight at H/W which would be huge.

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 11:38 Fury is not going to beat Wilder. After years of alcohol, parties, bad food and coke his body is damaged. You ain't gonna be prepared to beat the biggest puncher in your division by having two poor tune ups vs Saferi and Pianeta. If Fury was really serious he'd take some top contenders first for another year like Pulev, Whyte and Miller then go for Wilder. But this is nothing but a money grab due of his undefeated status.

ewenhay wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 09:39 What are people bothered about?

That Fury is looking at a title shot in his third fight back? A few days ago he was getting a hard time for taking easy fights whilst telling everyone he was after Wilder and Joshua. After being accused of talking the talk he's now planning to walk the walk.

Are people bothered that he's getting a title shot so soon? He's the ex champion. Vitali Klitschko got a title shot straight away after his period out of the sport.

That Wilder is taking on Fury? He gets plenty of criticism for easy defences. Taking on an ex champion is a potentially dangerous defence. What's the problem?

This is an excellent fight. Why are people complaining?

ewenhay wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 11:41

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 11:38 Fury is not going to beat Wilder. After years of alcohol, parties, bad food and coke his body is damaged. You ain't gonna be prepared to beat the biggest puncher in your division by having two poor tune ups vs Saferi and Pianeta. If Fury was really serious he'd take some top contenders first for another year like Pulev, Whyte and Miller then go for Wilder. But this is nothing but a money grab due of his undefeated status.

Just because it's not the way you think he should do it doesn't make it the wrong thing to do.

I think both fighters should get some credit if this fight gets made.

candyslim wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 12:47

ewenhay wrote: ↑04 Aug 2018, 09:39 What are people bothered about?

That Fury is looking at a title shot in his third fight back? A few days ago he was getting a hard time for taking easy fights whilst telling everyone he was after Wilder and Joshua. After being accused of talking the talk he's now planning to walk the walk.

Are people bothered that he's getting a title shot so soon? He's the ex champion. Vitali Klitschko got a title shot straight away after his period out of the sport.

That Wilder is taking on Fury? He gets plenty of criticism for easy defences. Taking on an ex champion is a potentially dangerous defence. What's the problem?

This is an excellent fight. Why are people complaining?

You sound like a rotten chef: "Last week you were bitching about the chicken being black and charred to cinders. This week you're compaining about a bit of blood and how it's still frozen in the middle. Some people are just never happy".

I tell why I'm not happy. I'm not happy because Wilder v Fury has the potential to be a great fight provided both fighters are in good condition. I think Fury probably doesn't realize because of his ego but he is setting himself up to be a sacrificial lamb. Wilder will be crowing about defeating the linneal champion like it's a great achievement when all is done is take another easy option as per usual.

Do us all a favour big man and up your level of competition and prove you've still got it. Then we can see how interested Wilder is in fighting you if and when you've shown you are still formidable.

Not very I'd wager.