another farcical matchup for Tom Schwarz hw joke

[funso banjo baby]

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/783061

Hw disgrace Tom Schwarz is set to fight a 10-0 who hasn't fought outside of Tijuana.

boring

[jamamb]

thats what they do with schwarz, match him vs guys with nice looking records that in reality have no value on them

yet he struggled to beat experienced 26-10 journeyman ivica bacurnin

[candyslim]

I don't disagree but he does at least have time on his side.

One German heavyweight who doesn't at 31 or is he 32 now, is the champion Michael Wallisch who has been considered as Germany's top international prospect at heavyweight for quite a while.

He shows no apparent inclination to test himself at a higher level - surely his younger compatriot Agit Kabayel who is the European champion shouldn't be too intimidating a step up?

Or if Kabayel is beyond his level of ambition, a defence against Tom Schwarz would seem to be a bloody obvious fight to make and German boxing fans (both of them) one might expect, should be clamouring to see it FFS!

[joshj909]

He does have time to step up but he's going to have to try keep fans on his side in the meantime. I don't know what the German fans expect of him but the fans would be getting pretty frustrated by him if he was from another European country. Looks like he's taking the American approach to building a record.

[DrDuke]

He does have time to step up but he's going to have to try keep fans on his side in the meantime. I don't know what the German fans expect of him but the fans would be getting pretty frustrated by him if he was from another European country. Looks like he's taking the American approach to building a record.

Yes, he's pretty young, only 24 years old. I don't now about his amateur career, but it looks like it was short and his team decided to let him learn in the pros. I guess, about a couple of years is the biggest term they can allow him to fight that kind of competition, then there'll be a deadline for stepping up in the opposition level.

[joshj909]

He does have time to step up but he's going to have to try keep fans on his side in the meantime. I don't know what the German fans expect of him but the fans would be getting pretty frustrated by him if he was from another European country. Looks like he's taking the American approach to building a record.

Yes, he's pretty young, only 24 years old. I don't now about his amateur career, but it looks like it was short and his team decided to let him learn in the pros. I guess, about a couple of years is the biggest term they can allow him to fight that kind of competition, then there'll be a deadline for stepping up in the opposition level.

I agree. You'd expect them to have high hopes for him early because the only way he has his WBO ranking is through connections as it is totally undeserved. What's the point in drawing attention to yourself if you aren't going to exploit it?

[gilgamesh]

He's only 24. By Heavyweight standards he's practically a baby. Those guys don't seem to hit their stride until like 32 or 33 these days it seems.

[jamamb]

ya its just funny how some lacky on here goes on about how great his record is and how hes the top hw propsect because hes got a high boxrec rating. puh lease, tell me his 3 best opponents then

[Lackeos]

ya its just funny how some lacky on here goes on about how great his record is and how hes the top hw propsect because hes got a high boxrec rating. puh lease, tell me his 3 best opponents then

It's funny how you didn't know that Luis Ortiz dropped Bryant Jennings.

[jamamb]

id just forgot, because my biggest memory was the prlonged beatings jennings took on his feet

so who are big toms best 3 opponents? the opponents of the guy you say has fought his way to being the top prospect in hw boxing

[Lackeos]

id just forgot, because my biggest memory was the prlonged beatings jennings took on his feet

so who are big toms best 3 opponents? the opponents of the guy you say has fought his way to being the top prospect in hw boxing

You obviously don't know how prospects work, which is not surprising coming from someone who didn't know that Luis Ortiz knocked down Bryant Jennings, and probably doesn't actually watch boxing at all. Prospects usually don't have particularly good accomplishments, otherwise they wouldn't still be considered prospects, and younger prospects usually have thinner resumes than other prospects. When Filip Hrgovic was exactly Tom Schwarz's age, his best professional opponents were: nobody. When Joe Joyce was Tom Schwarz's age, his best professional opponents were nobody. When Luis Ortiz (a boxer you've probably never even watched) was Tom Schwarz's age, his best professional opponents were nobody. When Anthony Joshua was Tom Schwarz's age, his bes tprofessional opponents were Emanuele Leo, Dorian Darch, and Paul Butlin. When Deontay Wilder was Tom Schwarz's age, his best opponents were Jerry Vaughn, Travis Allen, and Kelsey Arnold.

So again, for like the 30th time, you don't understand how prospects work at all, and you're not making very good progress with regard to learning anything about how boxing works. You're still as dumb as when you first joined this site.

[jamamb]

why so shy about answering the question bruh

youve said hes fought himself into the top prospect spot, so shouldnt be too tough

[Lackeos]

why so shy about answering the question bruh

Tom Schwarz's best opponents -- Gashi, Nebo, Redzovic, Lewandowski, and Bacurin, are much better than the best professional opponents of many other past and current heavyweight champions, contenders, and prospects when they were Schwarz's age. You would know that if you had any knowledge about boxing, but you don't.

[jamamb]

damn son, thats a f@cking good list there, it even includes the mighty samir nebo , and other guys without totally padded valueless records

of course bacurnins a half decent journeyman and of course tom barely beat him

top prospect 4 sure

[Lackeos]

damn son, thats a f@cking good list there, it even includes the mighty samir nebo , and other guys without totally padded valueless records

of course bacurnins a half decent journeyman and of course tom barely beat him

It is good compared to the professional wins of many other past and current heavyweight champions, contenders, and prospects at the time when they were Schwarz's age. But I already explained that. You obviously have a learning handicap.

You also have no shame, because anyone with shame would realize he was a dumbf*ck for not knowing that Ortiz dropped Jennings, and he would lay low for the rest of the night.

[jamamb]

you could argue that, or you could also say everyone hes beaten is totally irrelevant at hw right

you could also come to the realisation that even a mediocre fighter can have more fights on his record then others simply if he turns pro earlier

i do watch the fights, and i dont just rate fighters based on boxrec points son

[Lackeos]

Also, your stupid ass suggested that Schwarz's next opponent should be Dimitrenko or Wallin, and I suggested that you would make an irresponsible and dumb matchmaker, and guaranteed that his next opponent would not be that good. I demanded that we bet on whether his next opponent would be that good, but you must have known that I was clearly right, and you refused to accept the bet.

With Schwarz's next opponent announced, now is precisely the time that you've been made a fool of again. This is precisely the time that you have been proven an idiot again, and should be lying low. But like I said, you have no shame, and when you are proven most wrong is precisely the time that you keep flapping your gums instead of humbling yourself.

And don't act like you watch the fights. Anyone who watches boxing knows that Luis Ortiz dropped Bryant Jennings. You don't watch boxing.

It is also clear from the Mykal Fox thread that you are totally unaware that young boxers improve. You're just like "Well, the only good prospects I see are 30-year-old amateurs. These 22-year-old prospects don't look as skilled, so I guess they never will be." You seem incapable of understanding that boxers are not static things, and that they learn over time, and that the most experienced ones continue to improve faster than the most experienced ones.

[jamamb]

btw, i still remember the lacky classic about how it would be unfair for 26 year old, 35 fight, world champ miguel berchelt to fight loma now, because 1 fight 26 year old loma wasnt as good as 10 fight 29 year old loma

#lackylogic

[jamamb]

Also, your stupid ass suggested that Schwarz's next opponent should be Dimitrenko or Wallin, and I suggested that you would make an irresponsible and dumb matchmaker, and guaranteed that his next opponent would not be that good. I demanded that we bet on whether his next opponent would be that good, but you must have known that I was clearly right, and you refused to accept the bet.

With Schwarz's next opponent announced, now is precisely the time that you've been made a fool of again. This is precisely the time that you have been proven an idiot again, and should be lying low. But like I said, you have no shame, and when you are proven most wrong is precisely the time that you keep flapping your gums instead of humbling yourself.

And don't act like you watch the fights. Anyone who watches boxing knows that Luis Ortiz dropped Bryant Jennings. You don't watch boxing.

lol nice try kid, but i never thought schwarzs next opponent would be anything other then another scrub, which it is. so then he can continue padding his record at minimum risk, like a good boy for his investors. great! another schwarz mismatch!!

lol i also suggested rovcanin, and you said that even he was far too good for the top hw prospect

[Lackeos]

btw, i still remember the lacky classic about how it would be unfair for 26 year old, 35 fight, world champ miguel berchelt to fight loma now, because 1 fight 26 year old loma wasnt as good as 10 fight 29 year old loma

#lackylogic

... and did Berchelt's handlers match him with Lomachenko? No, they didn't. Again, you would be a totally incompetent boxing manager.

[jamamb]

ya, and loma improving from his form as a 1-0 26 year old pro is totally generalizable to how much 35 fight almost 10 year pro berchelt would improve over the same years

you do know that there are factors other then age

[Gnome]

I just watched the fight. Fernández was awful - he had his hands down when moving backwards, all Schwarz had to do was move forward and punch him in the head. The Mexican was knocked down heavily at the end of the first round and was finished off midway through the second. The referee did not bother with the count although Fernández was getting on his feet, as the bout was a total mismatch.

A total waste of time for Schwarz, he would have learned nothing.

[jamamb]

but zomg at 22 tom schwarz had done more as a pro hw then lennox lewis and both klits and anthony joshua

ya i agree, another hugely padded record nobody for schwarz. boooooring....

[adislav123]

Schwarz is a total imbecile, absolutely full of himself, his antics in and outside of the ring are that of a braindead bully, he's lazy in training, he will accomplish nothing, but thinks he has already. This fight was a disgrace. The mexican guy was a physically handicapped cruiserweight with zero coordination or conditioning. The sold it on national-tv as a big win, a step up on the way to a title-shot to the clueless casuals! Ahmet öner is a corrupt, criminal pudendum, but he has some comical talent! German professional boxing is 100% corrupt & rotten to the core!

[Gnome]

Schwarz is a total imbecile, absolutely full of himself, his antics in and outside of the ring are that of a braindead bully, he's lazy in training, he will accomplish nothing, but thinks he has already. This fight was a disgrace. The mexican guy was a physically handicapped cruiserweight with zero coordination or conditioning. The sold it on national-tv as a big win, a step up on the way to a title-shot to the clueless casuals! Ahmet öner is a corrupt, criminal pudendum, but he has some comical talent! German professional boxing is 100% corrupt & rotten to the core!

Agree with everything said here (although calling the guy physically handicapped is harsh - he just wasn't a good boxer).

Schwarz is very unlikable.