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What 6 boxers did Ali go 2-0 against?

Talking pro and no googling.

Frazier
Norton
Liston
Jimmy what’s his name
Patterson
Did he fight Cooper twice?

Tony1244 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2018, 18:44 What 6 boxers did Ali go 2-0 against?

Talking pro and no googling.

Without looking it up . . . lets see . . .

Henry Cooper
Sonny Liston
Floyd Patterson


Me thinks he beat Norton twice but lost to him once . . . same with Frazier. Nope that's it for me, got to go look.

I should of gotten one of the three I missed, the other two I was unaware that there were rematches. -- Good question.

Cooper
Liston
Patterson
Quarry
Chuvalo
Bugner

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑27 Aug 2018, 19:19 Cooper
Liston
Patterson
Quarry
Chuvalo
Bugner

Lets see just how good you are?

How many SD did Ali win, how many did he lose, against whom?

Same rules no looking.

From within that list? Or overall record? I don't think I could ace that question.

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑27 Aug 2018, 19:42 From within that list? Or overall record? I don't think I could ace that question.

No the fights (fighters) are not on that list; I couldn't answer it either, I went looking for something to see if I could stump you.

Hint: There are only three, with two different fighters.

I know of only one......Norton second fight....SD Ali. That one I'm sure of. I can't remember any others for sure. But since you ask, and it seems there is more than one.... I'll guess another one was Jimmy Young, I think that's the best bet, and my second guess would be the first Spinks fight. But I honestly don't know for sure. And I can't remember if he had majority decisions either.....I don't think so.

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑27 Aug 2018, 19:52 I know of only one......Norton second fight....SD Ali. That one I'm sure of. I can't remember any others for sure. But since you ask, and it seems there is more than one.... I'll guess another one was Jimmy Young, I think that's the best bet, and my second guess would be the first Spinks fight. But I honestly don't know for sure. And I can't remember if he had majority decisions either.....I don't think so.

Very close, the Norton situation threw you off, two of the three were a win and loss to Norton (third fight was a UD for Ali) -- the third fight was indeed Spinks I.

You made me go back and look, no MD.

A better question:

How many decision "wins" did he get in fights he actually lost?

Shavers and Norton surely his three SD wins?

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑28 Aug 2018, 03:18 Shavers and Norton surely his three SD wins?

Ali only had one SD win, second Norton fight. He lost two SD, Norton I and Spinks I, all the rest of his decisions were UD.

None of his UD fights had close scores (except Norton III), so other than Norton III, I don't see why one would believe he was given any gift decisions, the Shavers scores were 9-5-1 / 9-6 / 9-6.

Only the three SD had close scores (and that's to be expected) and he lost two of them.

IMO the only argument one can make for a gift decision is the third Norton fight. There many felt he got a gift against Norton with all three judges giving him the 15th round: 8-7 / 8-7 / 8-6-1 -- I really don't have an opinion, didn't see the fight and haven't bother to watch it, (I personally find Ali boring to watch) but that night there was almost a riot at Yankee Stadium.

Oh I thought he beat Shavers, I just thought it may have been an SD. Evidently not.

Also--you find Ali boring? Liston, Doug Jones, Foreman, Frazier, Shavers, Bonavena, Patterson--you find these fights boring!?!

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑27 Aug 2018, 19:19 Cooper
Liston
Patterson
Quarry
Chuvalo
Bugner

They don't call you boxbuzz for northin'

Sidney Carton wrote: ↑27 Aug 2018, 20:26 A better question:

How many decision "wins" did he get in fights he actually lost?

That's too subjective. I've watched Ali/Young and Ali/Norton and came up with different results at different times for the same fights.

Sidney Carton wrote: ↑27 Aug 2018, 20:26 A better question:

How many decision "wins" did he get in fights he actually lost?

None

SteveO wrote: ↑28 Aug 2018, 09:23

Sidney Carton wrote: ↑27 Aug 2018, 20:26 A better question:

How many decision "wins" did he get in fights he actually lost?

None

Agree!