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Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 09:49
by Stuarty
Opposite of other thread. This one is probably more difficult but I'm sure there's plenty outthere although I can't think of many from the top of my head.

Mayweather is the only one that jumps out.....

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:08
by Coco
A lot of fighters had fathers who boxed, it's just the fathers never get publicity
Off the top of my head Nicky Cook, Scott Harrison

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:10
by banjo
Floyd Jr

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:14
by Michael1988
I’m no way near as knowledgeable as most on here, not having looked it up, wasn’t Buster Douglas’ dad a pro? Not sure about his résumé

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:14
by banjo
Roy Jones Jr?

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:15
by Terry Dooley
Roy Jones Sr. claimed, or more accurately didn't dispute the claims, that he was the guy who fought Marvin Hagler. I'm not 100% sure whether he had a pro fight or not.

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:15
by punchers chance
Tyson Fury.

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:16
by Terry Dooley
Andre Ward had a much better boxing career than God.

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:16
by Terry Dooley
punchers chance wrote: 04 Sep 2018, 10:15 Tyson Fury.
Hughie also. Peter only had the one pro fight.

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:17
by banjo
Terry Dooley wrote: 04 Sep 2018, 10:15 Roy Jones Sr. claimed, or more accurately didn't dispute the claims, that he was the guy who fought Marvin Hagler. I'm not 100% sure whether he had a pro fight or not.
All I've heard is that was a different Roy Jones and that RJJ's father was a club fighter.

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:18
by Ruthless-RKO
If Jesse Hart can win a world title then he would.. His father/trainer lost to Hagler I believe.

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:22
by kevo
Stephen Foster Jnr

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:24
by Terry Dooley
banjo wrote: 04 Sep 2018, 10:17
Terry Dooley wrote: 04 Sep 2018, 10:15 Roy Jones Sr. claimed, or more accurately didn't dispute the claims, that he was the guy who fought Marvin Hagler. I'm not 100% sure whether he had a pro fight or not.
All I've heard is that was a different Roy Jones and that RJJ's father was a club fighter.
I've not been able to track his record, he said he fought in Mexico but no sign of a Roy Jones from era fighting there. Maybe he was on the chitlin' and gravy circuit?

https://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/01/spor ... et-go.html

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:34
by orbtastic
Michael1988 wrote: 04 Sep 2018, 10:14 I’m no way near as knowledgeable as most on here, not having looked it up, wasn’t Buster Douglas’ dad a pro? Not sure about his résumé
He fought at the Philly Spectrum a fair few times and fought the likes of Briscoe, Monroe and then later Galindez, MSM, Johnson etc.

I don't know how I know this but I came across an article where he was mentioned. Probably a Russell J Peltz one.

Anyway, here's his record:

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/16634

Here's the article, he was pretty good, records can be deceiving. He dropped MSM and was unlucky to get stopped.

http://a.espncdn.com/boxing/s/1999/1013/111321.html

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 11:55
by prewarboxing
Johnny Sullivan (Preston). British Middles champ 1950s. Father was Battling Sullivan.

Vernon Sollas.

Frank Grant (father was Hugh Mackie, a good fighter but not as good as Frank)

Jack Petersen (father also called Jack, he boxed pre World War 1)


Here's a good one for you Stuarty. To complete the two threads - Fighter who equalled his father's achievements - Wally Swift.

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 13:15
by johnty1888
Here's a good one for you Stuarty. To complete the two threads - Fighter who equalled his father's achievements - Wally Swift.
Brian London and Jack London

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 13:44
by rubberneck
Harry Duiven jr’s Pro career certainly eclipsed his father’s...

But not as much as Felix Trinidad did.

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 13:57
by Datsue
Ray "Boom-Boom" Mancini.

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 14:05
by Londonirish
John McDermott Had A better career than his father Stan. Although Stan KO’d Terry O’Connor in 5 rounds, Terry got his own back when he Ref The Fury Vs McDermott fight...

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 14:14
by Coco
Londonirish wrote: 04 Sep 2018, 14:05 John McDermott Had A better career than his father Stan. Although Stan KO’d Terry O’Connor in 5 rounds, Terry got his own back when he Ref The Fury Vs McDermott fight...
After watching that fight I really thought he had found his level, even after the rematch I didn't see much improvement.
I dunno whether it was because Peter took over the reins but he improved immeasurably

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 14:15
by Counter-puncher
Coco wrote: 04 Sep 2018, 14:14
Londonirish wrote: 04 Sep 2018, 14:05 John McDermott Had A better career than his father Stan. Although Stan KO’d Terry O’Connor in 5 rounds, Terry got his own back when he Ref The Fury Vs McDermott fight...
After watching that fight I really thought he had found his level, even after the rematch I didn't see much improvement.
I dunno whether it was because Peter took over the reins but he improved immeasurably
I imagine his 'diet' may have improved considerably?

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 14:27
by orbtastic
I remember Jose Luis Lopez' dad being mentioned as a former pro. This was before the days of Boxrec but I can see his (Sr) record, he's got a couple of good names on there but I think it's fair to say Jr didn't get his chin from his dad.

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 14:29
by Stuarty
Coco wrote: 04 Sep 2018, 10:08 A lot of fighters had fathers who boxed, it's just the fathers never get publicity
Off the top of my head Nicky Cook, Scott Harrison
I didn't know Peter Harrison was a pro fighter. Well respected trainer.

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 14:30
by Stuarty
Londonirish wrote: 04 Sep 2018, 14:05 John McDermott Had A better career than his father Stan. Although Stan KO’d Terry O’Connor in 5 rounds, Terry got his own back when he Ref The Fury Vs McDermott fight...
I remember reading about that on here! Bitter old trout! Thankfully he's retiring this year apparently!

Re: Sons who eclipsed their fathers ring achievements?

Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 15:17
by jonp
Tyrone nurse