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Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 05 Sep 2018, 19:26
by Best Coast
Which guy eventually gets a world title shot first?
To be eligible a fighter must have less than 10 pro bouts on the day this thread started: September 5, 2018
FILIP HRGOVIC
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/813758
JOE JOYCE
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/811429
IVAN DYCHKO
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/813592
DANIEL DUBOIS
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/787430
EFE AJAGBA
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/804221
TONY YOKA
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/795843
EVGENY TISHCHENKO
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/845734
VLADISLAV SIRENKO
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/800125
BAKHODIR JALOLOV
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/834487
ANOTHER FIGHTER NOT LISTED (Name him in your post)
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 01:49
by Lackeos
Daniel Dubois is probably too young to be in the running. It stands to reason that he will take his time more than these other names. Efe Ajagba's development in the short-term will probably also lag behind Yoka and Hrgovic since he is currently less developed. Sirenko is probably not anywhere close to being in the running. Tischenko is probably also less likely than Yoka and Hrgovic, since he is smaller and less far along as a pro.
Joe Joyce is a somewhat plausible shout, since he's old as dirt. He obviously needs to go for it on a rapid timeline before he starts to get too old. He has no incentive to go slow. Only downside is he might lose leading up to a title shot.
Hrgovic and Yoka are pretty much 100% getting a title shot someday. They have no need to rush, because they might be future cash cows if they stay undefeated, but they are good enough that they won't need to take their time much either. They'll probably get their shot in 2-3 years.
Ivan Dychko likely has less potential than Hrgovic and Yoka. He doesn't need to worry about becoming an undefeated cash cow champion; he should be happy to be the loser in a world title fight. He is also older than Hrgovic and Yoka. He will probably challenge for a title on a somewhat similar timetable -- 3ish years.
Mladen Miljas also has a plausible chance. He is the third guy in the top 50 who qualifies for this thread's criteria. I feel like there is less rock solid proof that he is a future contender, but his win over Dillon Carman implies that he might be in the mix.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 04:03
by dagilechia
How about this Uzbekistani guy, he has 1 fight only so far, i heard that hes big and talented, anyone knows more about him? I dont know whats his name.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 04:39
by Pukka Cheese
Joe Joyce needs to be looking for a world title shot within the next 18months imo.
Hrgovic might not be so far behind...
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 04:46
by Ruthless-RKO
Easy. It WILL BE Joe Joyce.
He’s being pushed the fastest and Haye has already said they’re trying to fast track him into world title contention.
Sanchez has said he wants him ready for a world title shot by the end of 2019.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 07:33
by joshj909
Between Hrgovic and Joyce for me. Hrgovic is taking on a better man in Mansour the soonest but Joyce has just been ranked by WBA and his connection with Haymon means he will likely get a WBC ranking soon. I think Joyce also claimed he has a "huge" fight planned for December but we'll see how huge that really is.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 08:22
by candyslim
Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑06 Sep 2018, 04:39
Joe Joyce needs to be looking for a world title shot within the next 18months imo.
Hrgovic might not be so far behind...
That's how I see it.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 08:38
by danconnollyeire
Yoka has been banned so unlikely him
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 08:43
by Stuarty
Probably Joyce. He's shouting everyone out and seems in a hurry. Might have to sever ties with Haye and go with Fast Ed though to make it happen quickly.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 14:38
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Joyce. Hes got the pedigree and in the right market
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 16:29
by KiwiRider
Lackeos wrote: ↑06 Sep 2018, 01:49
Daniel Dubois is probably too young to be in the running. It stands to reason that he will take his time more than these other names. Efe Ajagba's development in the short-term will probably also lag behind Yoka and Hrgovic since he is currently less developed. Sirenko is probably not anywhere close to being in the running. Tischenko is probably also less likely than Yoka and Hrgovic, since he is smaller and less far along as a pro.
Joe Joyce is a somewhat plausible shout, since he's old as dirt. He obviously needs to go for it on a rapid timeline before he starts to get too old. He has no incentive to go slow. Only downside is he might lose leading up to a title shot.
Hrgovic and Yoka are pretty much 100% getting a title shot someday. They have no need to rush, because they might be future cash cows if they stay undefeated, but they are good enough that they won't need to take their time much either. They'll probably get their shot in 2-3 years.
Ivan Dychko likely has less potential than Hrgovic and Yoka. He doesn't need to worry about becoming an undefeated cash cow champion; he should be happy to be the loser in a world title fight. He is also older than Hrgovic and Yoka. He will probably challenge for a title on a somewhat similar timetable -- 3ish years.
Mladen Miljas also has a plausible chance. He is the third guy in the top 50 who qualifies for this thread's criteria. I feel like there is less rock solid proof that he is a future contender, but his win over Dillon Carman implies that he might be in the mix.
Nice post
I think you look laid out the situation succinctly. I also agree that Joyce, albiet the #1 in the list to get a shot first ( especially after his recent co-signing) does have the look of a banna peel waiting to happen.
The list misses Usyk, and while not a current HW, I'm sure if he does move up, his accent will be swift. He has also boxed the ears off Joyce in the past...
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 17:22
by funso banjo baby
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Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 17:45
by Best Coast
KiwiRider wrote: ↑06 Sep 2018, 16:29
The list misses Usyk, and while not a current HW, I'm sure if he does move up, his accent will be swift. He has also boxed the ears off Joyce in the past...
Thanks for the input but the reason Usyk isnt in the mix is not because he is a cruiser, but rather because he has MORE than 10 pro bouts.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 18:27
by gilgamesh
Joe Joyce definitely seems to be the guy that's moving his career along at the fastest rate so I'd probably go with him.
Hrgovic is making a pretty bold step forward in his 6th fight.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 18:34
by Ruthless-RKO
Best Coast wrote: ↑06 Sep 2018, 17:45
KiwiRider wrote: ↑06 Sep 2018, 16:29
The list misses Usyk, and while not a current HW, I'm sure if he does move up, his accent will be swift. He has also boxed the ears off Joyce in the past...
Thanks for the input but the reason Usyk isnt in the mix is not because he is a cruiser, but rather because he has MORE than 10 pro bouts.
Was just gonna say...
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 19:52
by SportsRatings
from fighting in France, by the French drug testers, for one year. The world-wide drug testers haven't banned him from the rest of the world as far as I can tell.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 23:13
by Best Coast
gilgamesh wrote: ↑06 Sep 2018, 18:27
Joe Joyce definitely seems to be the guy that's moving his career along at the fastest rate so I'd probably go with him.
Hrgovic is making a pretty bold step forward in his 6th fight.
With Joyce at age 32 it's expected, as the clock ticks away on his career. Hrgovic is more surprising at 26, with his willingness to take on Amir Mansour. But even more surprising is Dubois, who just turned 21 today and will step up to face former world title challenger Kevin Johnson in early October. Even though KJ is 38 he should be a tougher test than most of the others mentioned here besides Joyce & Hrgovic have been willing to face.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 23:16
by gilgamesh
Best Coast wrote: ↑06 Sep 2018, 23:13
gilgamesh wrote: ↑06 Sep 2018, 18:27
Joe Joyce definitely seems to be the guy that's moving his career along at the fastest rate so I'd probably go with him.
Hrgovic is making a pretty bold step forward in his 6th fight.
With Joyce at age 32 it's expected, as the clock ticks away on his career. Hrgovic is more surprising at 26, with his willingness to take on Amir Mansour. But even more surprising is Dubois, who just turned 21 today and will step up to face former world title challenger Kevin Johnson in early October. Even though KJ is 38 he should be a tougher test than most of the others mentioned here besides Joyce & Hrgovic have been willing to face.
I guess. I don't really consider Kevin Johnson to be particularly threatening. Especially at this point, but at least he has name value I guess. I'm surprised anybody would still be wanting to see Kevin Johnson fight...even as the opponent.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 23:31
by Best Coast
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Sep 2018, 04:03
How about this Uzbekistani guy, he has 1 fight only so far, i heard that hes big and talented, anyone knows more about him? I dont know whats his name.
Thanks for reminding me of Uzbekistani prospect
BAKHODIR JALOLOV. He turned pro in May and fights on the 9/29 Lou DiBella card in Brooklyn, where Jalolov has been based as a pro. He lost in the Quarterfinals of 2016 Olympics to Joyce and won bronze at the 2015 World Championships. 24-year-old lefty could be a factor at HW down the road.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 23:57
by Best Coast
Looks like long, tall fighters will be continuing their predominance in the HW division. Here's the heights of the 9 prospects listed above:
6'9" (Dychko), 6'7", 6'6" (3 guys), 6'5" (3 guys)...the only one under 6'5" is Sirenko at 6'3 1/2"
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 00:31
by Deadendgeneration
Joyce - easily manufactured British beef.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 03:01
by Best Coast
ATTENTION: WHEN I MADE A LATE ADDITION OF ONE NAME TO THE POLL LIST -- BAKHODIR JALOLOV -- IT CANCELLED OUT ALL THE PREVIOUS VOTES AND THE TALLY WENT BACK TO ZERO FOR ALL FIGHTERS. BEFORE I MESSED IT UP THE TOTALS WERE SOMETHING LIKE:
JOE JOYCE=14
FILIP HRGOVIC=5
DANIEL DUBOIS=1
EFE AJAGBA=1
FEEL FREE TO VOTE AGAIN. SORRY ABOUT THE ERROR, THAT WAS FIRST TIME (AND LAST TIME) I EVER TRIED THAT!! 
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 15:50
by ElJefe
Joyce will be first because he's got less time than the others. He'd also get stopped by Wilder and Joshua as well. I imagine we're talking just the belts that AJ and Wilder hold and not any WBA bullshit titles?
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 22:57
by Lackeos
I was the only poster to mention Jalolov in the Best Heavyweight Prospects thread. Mwahaha.
Re: Which Heavyweight Who Has LESS THAN 10 BOUTS TODAY Will Be the FIrst Fighter to Get a World Title Shot?
Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 23:18
by Best Coast
Lackeos wrote: ↑07 Sep 2018, 22:57
I was the only poster to mention Jalolov in the Best Heavyweight Prospects thread. Mwahaha.
No big deal. It was a valuable learning experience for me. Now I know you cannot alter a poll list once the poll has begun without eliminating all the previous votes!! I have done numerous polls in the past, but had never made that mistake before...