Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
I'd say, he about the same dangerous as Wilder, but Fury is above them both.
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SenorPipino
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Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
I'd say Joshua will KO Povetkin, Wilder would do the same emphatically, and Fury would easily outpoint the rapidly declining Russian.
But asdjfkl already knows all that despite his lengthy diatribe.
But asdjfkl already knows all that despite his lengthy diatribe.
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
I can't see Povetkin being able to beat Luis Ortiz.astradamus wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 11:25 I think Povetkin is still better then Wilder, despite his age and Wilder knows that very well, in Tyson his current shape Povetkin would easely beat him. Next year those things might change because of their age and because Tyson Fury might get into better shape. I think boxing fans should be thankfull to Anthony Joshua that he still offers him the chance to proof the world wrong.
Anthony Joshua is most likely currently the only boxer in the world who got a chance to beat Povetkin in a fair way, this might change soon, when Povetkin starts to become old.
I thank AJ a lot for fighting the best boxers in the world out there that dare to fight AJ.
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
J#sus! That would be an impressive feat. If Joshua KO's Povetkin I will drop down and do 50 push up's.
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Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
Did I actually bother saying that?
I can't believe I posted that. There must be more to it. I'll get back to you Chuck when I re-read what I wrote, but if that's all I opined, I apologize.
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
I am not saying Joshua can not win this contest by KO. I'm more saying that Povetkin is an extremely tough cookie to break.
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SenorPipino
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Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
The esteemed Astradamnass stated that Povetkin has never been even buzzed for more than a second.
But I sure saw him do a backwards, stumbling moonwalk against Price. And Klitschko dropped him on at least 3 occasions.
So more fake news.
Povetkin is now old. A shell of his pre-drug days. Therefore I'll repeat: Joshua will knock him out emphatically.
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
You're delusional about how good you think Povetkin is. There ain't no "If" as to whether he loses tonight. It's damn near a certainty. He has a punchers chance, and that's about it.astradamus wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 13:49Lol, Ortiz would be such an easy win, I think even the fans would demand a harder fight then that. I think the fans would demand a rematch first actually, but if Povetkin loses tonight, Ortiz could easely be a good and easy comeback fight.gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 11:26I can't see Povetkin being able to beat Luis Ortiz.astradamus wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 11:25 I think Povetkin is still better then Wilder, despite his age and Wilder knows that very well, in Tyson his current shape Povetkin would easely beat him. Next year those things might change because of their age and because Tyson Fury might get into better shape. I think boxing fans should be thankfull to Anthony Joshua that he still offers him the chance to proof the world wrong.
Anthony Joshua is most likely currently the only boxer in the world who got a chance to beat Povetkin in a fair way, this might change soon, when Povetkin starts to become old.
I thank AJ a lot for fighting the best boxers in the world out there that dare to fight AJ.
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
He is doing exceptionally well so far I'll grant you.astradamus wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 17:42You're the delusional one here.gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 14:12You're delusional about how good you think Povetkin is. There ain't no "If" as to whether he loses tonight. It's damn near a certainty. He has a punchers chance, and that's about it.astradamus wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 13:49
Lol, Ortiz would be such an easy win, I think even the fans would demand a harder fight then that. I think the fans would demand a rematch first actually, but if Povetkin loses tonight, Ortiz could easely be a good and easy comeback fight.
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
How do you banned from a site, people know who you are, but you aren't banned again?
My other thinking if people generally think you are an idiot or troll,why would you want to come back to that site?
I'll just add him back to my blocked list. He offers nothing of substance.
My other thinking if people generally think you are an idiot or troll,why would you want to come back to that site?
I'll just add him back to my blocked list. He offers nothing of substance.
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
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I don't keep track of who's who. Is this astradamus supposed to be somebody from before?armageto wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 19:32 How do you banned from a site, people know who you are, but you aren't banned again?
My other thinking if people generally think you are an idiot or troll,why would you want to come back to that site?
I'll just add him back to my blocked list. He offers nothing of substance.
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Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
I think the 2013 versions of Klitschko and Povetkin who faced each other would have beaten Joshua...
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
Quite possible. It's also quite possible we still haven't seen the best version of Joshua yet.drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 21:33 I think the 2013 versions of Klitschko and Povetkin who faced each other would have beaten Joshua...
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Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
Assedfuckt.gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 21:25I don't keep track of who's who. Is this astradamus supposed to be somebody from before?armageto wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 19:32 How do you banned from a site, people know who you are, but you aren't banned again?
My other thinking if people generally think you are an idiot or troll,why would you want to come back to that site?
I'll just add him back to my blocked list. He offers nothing of substance.
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
Give it a rest dude!!! It’s OVERRRRRRRRR. Your little pumpkin pie hair cutted roid gulping Russian robot just had his last hurrah. He’s done. Let’s free the site up finally and forever from this Povetkin shiatttt once and for all. Lol. He got has ass handed to him and he’s all done. He’s always been way too diminutive for this division and you girls blowing him for years was the biggest waste of time and webspace in the history of this site or any site. Wrap it up dude.astradamus wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018, 05:35 More and more it seems like Wilder and Fury just cutted a deal to continu to destroy the reputation of several olympic champions without actually fighting them.
The more information is out there, the more it's clear to people who know the facts that Povetkin has never done anything illegal in the run-up to the Wilder vs Povetkin fight and the more it's clear why Tyson Fury never dared to offer Klitschko the rematch he deserved.
Together with the American media they consistantly try to act like they are any good, while in reality they are only trying to destroy the sport of boxing, together with the WBC, while wasting as much time as possible and all of that, just for a few dimes.
People shouldn't be surprised if Pianeta remains the best guy Tyson Fury has fought in many years for quite some time and remember, Pianeta lost his fight against Kevin Johnson by TKO, the same Kevin Johnson who was lucky to get to the 2nd round against AJ in AJ his 13th pro fight.
That's the difference in level we are talking about.
Olympic champion Povetkin on the other hand fights top contender after top contender all his carreer long and only arguably lost against the champion (and other olympic champion) of the world in his prime in one of the best performances Wladimir ever had.
What do you guys think, for me it was obvious why Wilder ran away like a scared girl after celebrating holiday in the UK, refusing to go to Russia even before the WBC has said anything about the fight around the innocent Povetkin. It's also obvious why Tyson Fury never challenged Povetkin at all, despite he was arguably the real WBC champion of the world especially after the out of retirement coming drugshead called Arreola send Wilder to hospital in possibly the most pathetic titlefight in history.
I can easely understand it if AJ demands 110% of the money if Wilder would want the fight, since the only thing Wilder does is damaging the sport.
Casuals even think AJ will KO Povetkin without problems, despite the fact that Povetkin has never been KOed by anyone in history and hasn't even clearly been dizzy for over a second against anyone ever.
Casuals basically might miss the best fight of 2018 because the media spreads lies all over the place. It reminds me of Tesla, who basically offers the best car out there by quite a margine, but nobody notices because the billions of dollars from the oil and car industry pays the media, who because of that is trying to destroy Tesla as hard as they can, purely for a bit of money.
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
ArseDramatiny_acres wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 21:41Assedfuckt.gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 21:25I don't keep track of who's who. Is this astradamus supposed to be somebody from before?armageto wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 19:32 How do you banned from a site, people know who you are, but you aren't banned again?
My other thinking if people generally think you are an idiot or troll,why would you want to come back to that site?
I'll just add him back to my blocked list. He offers nothing of substance.
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
Klitschko - yes, Povetkin reached his prime after Klitschko, when he teamed up with new coach Ivan Kirpa. Povetkin's version of Charr, Takam and Perez bouts would have won Joshua, I believe. It looks like, the age really affected Sasha, as his stamina isn't that good anymore.drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 21:33 I think the 2013 versions of Klitschko and Povetkin who faced each other would have beaten Joshua...
Re: Povetkin, still better then Wilder and Fury?
Povetkin better then fury? what are you basing that on, Klitschko batterd Povetkin , and Klitschko couldnt land a glove on fury ,