Barry Hearn says no rush to fight Wilder or Fury....

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Barry Hearn says no rush to fight Wilder or Fury....

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....in interview with FW (before throwing toys out of pram) :lol:

About 9 mins in:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/m0000g5j
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Re: Barry Hearn says no rush to fight Wilder or Fury....

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I loved the part where he's saying we'll fight as long as they meet all of our terms.

In other words. We will offer a pittance and you crawl at our feet and take the crumbs or there's no fight
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Eddie Hearn wants to milk his cash cow for as long as possible. Trouble is he's running out of opponents. Nobody is going to buy Joshua vs Miller, or Joshua vs Pulev.at this point.

I suspect he coukd sell Joshua vs Del boy to the British public. That matchup could expose AJ though. Del boy won't gas like Povetkin did.
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RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 12:59 Eddie Hearn wants to milk his cash cow for as long as possible. Trouble is he's running out of opponents. Nobody is going to buy Joshua vs Miller, or Joshua vs Pulev.at this point.

I suspect he coukd sell Joshua vs Del boy to the British public. That matchup could expose AJ though. Del boy won't gas like Povetkin did.
Joshua would smash Del Boy for 10 rounds and then stop him, you can’t honestly think Chisora would expose AJ?

Chisora only goes to work for 30 seconds a round
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It's just words, same as all the other parties involved. When they agree terms, it'll happen.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:00 It's just words, same as all the other parties involved. When they agree terms, it'll happen.
2 to 3 years from now is my guess.
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chrisnew86 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 13:45
RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 12:59 Eddie Hearn wants to milk his cash cow for as long as possible. Trouble is he's running out of opponents. Nobody is going to buy Joshua vs Miller, or Joshua vs Pulev.at this point.

I suspect he coukd sell Joshua vs Del boy to the British public. That matchup could expose AJ though. Del boy won't gas like Povetkin did.
Joshua would smash Del Boy for 10 rounds and then stop him, you can’t honestly think Chisora would expose AJ?

Chisora only goes to work for 30 seconds a round
Del Boy wouldn’t even get halfway to 10 rounds with Joshua.
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RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 12:59 Nobody is going to buy Joshua vs Miller, or Joshua vs Pulev.at this point.
Utter bollox. He does not go from 80,000 against Povetkin (an unknown to casuals) to "Nobody is going to buy..."

He could sell 60,000 if he sat in the middle of the ring and played cards
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Haern really got the hump , did'nt he , theres no way is Fury - AJ ever gonna get made , Warren wants 50-50 and he's NEVER going to get it , IF they beat Wilder , and there is a good chance Fury can do it ,, The more i look at this fight the more i see Fury outboxing Wilder .
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tobyh5 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:31
RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 12:59 Nobody is going to buy Joshua vs Miller, or Joshua vs Pulev.at this point.
Utter bollox. He does not go from 80,000 against Povetkin (an unknown to casuals) to "Nobody is going to buy..."

He could sell 60,000 if he sat in the middle of the ring and played cards

Yawn. The Povetkin card flopped.
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RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:33
tobyh5 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:31
RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 12:59 Nobody is going to buy Joshua vs Miller, or Joshua vs Pulev.at this point.
Utter bollox. He does not go from 80,000 against Povetkin (an unknown to casuals) to "Nobody is going to buy..."

He could sell 60,000 if he sat in the middle of the ring and played cards

Yawn. The Povetkin card flopped.
80,000 is a flop? Fck me you have high standards fella
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RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 12:59 Eddie Hearn wants to milk his cash cow for as long as possible. Trouble is he's running out of opponents. Nobody is going to buy Joshua vs Miller, or Joshua vs Pulev.at this point.

I suspect he coukd sell Joshua vs Del boy to the British public. That matchup could expose AJ though. Del boy won't gas like Povetkin did.
Joshua sells more tickets and ppv’s against Miller/Pulev and quite possibly, me or you, than Fury v Wilder do between them when they fight. By far too

Joshua is the shot caller, no matter what bollocks Warren and co come out with.

Fury couldn’t even sell a fight against Wlad in his hometown.
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tobyh5 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:35
RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:33
tobyh5 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:31

Utter bollox. He does not go from 80,000 against Povetkin (an unknown to casuals) to "Nobody is going to buy..."

He could sell 60,000 if he sat in the middle of the ring and played cards

Yawn. The Povetkin card flopped.
80,000 is a flop? Fck me you have high standards fella
To be fair, I think only 72k tickets were sold in the end.

Absolute flop :lol:
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Bazza saw his arse but he was right to say he wouldn't be negotiating on live radio.
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lillywhite14 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:53
RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 12:59 Eddie Hearn wants to milk his cash cow for as long as possible. Trouble is he's running out of opponents. Nobody is going to buy Joshua vs Miller, or Joshua vs Pulev.at this point.

I suspect he coukd sell Joshua vs Del boy to the British public. That matchup could expose AJ though. Del boy won't gas like Povetkin did.
Joshua sells more tickets and ppv’s against Miller/Pulev and quite possibly, me or you, than Fury v Wilder do between them when they fight. By far too

Joshua is the shot caller, no matter what bollocks Warren and co come out with.

Fury couldn’t even sell a fight against Wlad in his hometown.

You could be one of Fast Cars spin doctors. Wilder is Fury is going to be massive. Joshua certainly appeals to casuals but they're bored now with opponents like Molina & Povetkin.
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lillywhite14 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:54
tobyh5 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:35
RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:33


Yawn. The Povetkin card flopped.
80,000 is a flop? Fck me you have high standards fella
To be fair, I think only 72k tickets were sold in the end.

Absolute flop :lol:
Not a flip but not the immediate sell out he's known for
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RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 15:09
lillywhite14 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:53
RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 12:59 Eddie Hearn wants to milk his cash cow for as long as possible. Trouble is he's running out of opponents. Nobody is going to buy Joshua vs Miller, or Joshua vs Pulev.at this point.

I suspect he coukd sell Joshua vs Del boy to the British public. That matchup could expose AJ though. Del boy won't gas like Povetkin did.
Joshua sells more tickets and ppv’s against Miller/Pulev and quite possibly, me or you, than Fury v Wilder do between them when they fight. By far too

Joshua is the shot caller, no matter what bollocks Warren and co come out with.

Fury couldn’t even sell a fight against Wlad in his hometown.

You could be one of Fast Cars spin doctors. Wilder is Fury is going to be massive. Joshua certainly appeals to casuals but they're bored now with opponents like Molina & Povetkin.
I hope it does massive numbers, I want them both to get big money. Reality suggests otherwise though unfortunately. Wilder and Fury just aren’t popular.
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tiny_acres wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 15:20
lillywhite14 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:54
tobyh5 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:35

80,000 is a flop? Fck me you have high standards fella
To be fair, I think only 72k tickets were sold in the end.

Absolute flop :lol:
Not a flip but not the immediate sell out he's known for

The ticket sales are propped up by StubHub anyway. The whole thing is a stitch up & Eddie Hearn deserves jail time.
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It's all nonsense,, Wilder has a rematch clause so if Fury wins that will be his next fight.
Also like it or not it's Joshua who gets bums on seats and Fury won't get a 50/50 split.
AJ against nobody gets at least 50,000 at a football stadium, Futy in the same boat might get on You Tube
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FW is doing his job, if Fury wins both against Wilder, as WBC and lineal champ, and it would be the fight the public wants, FW will do his best to get the best cut possible, or at least try to co promote
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It's now obvious that Fastcar (and possibly Joshua) are avoiding Wilder. Joshua says he wants Wilder to sign their deal before he fights Fury, so that he can begin training in January. That's rubbish! If Wilder beats Fury he can sign in time for Christmas. And since Joshua's gonna be resting through December and Wilder fights on the 1st...

Even if talks drag some way into Jan, that doesn't stop either man from making a start on their training.

The truth is that Fastcar knows Wilder can demand 50% if he beats Fury in style, and he'll be powerless to argue against that when it comes to the fans. And should Fury pull the upset, he'd also be worth 50%.
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Grilling Machine wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 18:15 It's now obvious that Fastcar (and possibly Joshua) are avoiding Wilder. Joshua says he wants Wilder to sign their deal before he fights Fury, so that he can begin training in January. That's rubbish! If Wilder beats Fury he can sign in time for Christmas. And since Joshua's gonna be resting through December and Wilder fights on the 1st...

Even if talks drag some way into Jan, that doesn't stop either man from making a start on their training.

The truth is that Fastcar knows Wilder can demand 50% if he beats Fury in style, and he'll be powerless to argue against that when it comes to the fans. And should Fury pull the upset, he'd also be worth 50%.
I’m sure AJ will only want to start camp knowing the opponent. Negotiations can take several weeks so what’s the issue with them trying to get it done before Wilder’s next fight?

Also unless Wilder v Fury does big numbers on PPV, neither of them will be worth 50%. Splits aren’t based on ability or wins - they’re based on commercial value and Joshua brings more to the total than Wilder and especially Fury.

Exactly the same reason why Canelo got substantially more than Golovkin in their first fight and more in their second fight despite GGG having 3 belts and a better record at middleweight.
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Post by leejonesjnr »

This 'as lineal champion' talk is utter nonsense. Tyson Fury has no championship of any kind to offer unless he beats Wilder.
The winner of the Wilder v Fury contest is in no way 50% of the commercial value of the fight however it is possible that they get a 50/50 split if Joshua wants the WBC title badly enough.
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Re: Barry Hearn says no rush to fight Wilder or Fury....

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RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 15:27
tiny_acres wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 15:20
lillywhite14 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:54

To be fair, I think only 72k tickets were sold in the end.

Absolute flop :lol:
Not a flip but not the immediate sell out he's known for

The ticket sales are propped up by StubHub anyway. The whole thing is a stitch up & Eddie Hearn deserves jail time.
Your one of these that will do anything to not sound like a “casual” aren’t you :TU:
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RKY wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 15:27
tiny_acres wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 15:20
lillywhite14 wrote: 24 Sep 2018, 14:54

To be fair, I think only 72k tickets were sold in the end.

Absolute flop :lol:
Not a flip but not the immediate sell out he's known for

The ticket sales are propped up by StubHub anyway. The whole thing is a stitch up & Eddie Hearn deserves jail time.
What the fck are you talking about?

Propped up by Stubhub? Ok we all know the secondary market thing should be legislated against, complete exploitation of the fans but that is a different argument and is not at all fitting into today's argument. No relevance, no matter how it is sold, human beings are buying and human beings are attending which you argued against with some bollox.

Explain "propped up"
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