crawfords career is boring

[jamamb]

this guys is super good

and sure, down at 140/135 he cleaned things out.

but despite having plenty of solid wins he really has never beaten anyone particulalry good imo. indongo, postel, beltran, burns, horn, etc.. its just getting boring to me with him in this types of fights vs these guys. he may be p4p number 1, but there are several fighters with better 'best' wins

lets bring on a spence or a thurman or even a porter please. if these cant happen because arum vs pbc , well welp, then what? and seriously, what have been the biggest anticpated crawford fights?

[jamamb]

really, if were being realistic, we should prob be thinking more of adames-crawford then spence-craw. craw will hardly lose a round and will just peck away at that level, as weve seen over and over and over and over, vs postol, burns, dongo, beltran, john molina, horn, lundy, etc

for me, to be truly great, like a floyd, we need that extra step up

[ironbeard]

I just love watching Bud operate. He did an FMJ most of the night and then did what FMJ so seldom did for many years, finish when he could have cakewalked.

I agree that we need him in with the rest of the best at 147.

[rmz]

He's 12-0 in world title fights, and has beaten 6 former or current belt holders. What more do you want of the guy? He's beating everyone they put in front of him. And has dominated all of them.

[Ricky]

Excelkent fighter but he certainly gets hit, Benavidez had some real success countering TC tonight but didn't have the power to rattle Crawford. I'm confident Spence beats Crawford.

[jamamb]

He's 12-0 in world title fights, and has beaten 6 former or current belt holders. What more do you want of the guy? He's beating everyone they put in front of him. And has dominated all of them.

nice reading job bro

i dont knock his talent at all. i think hes excellent. and i pretty clearly adress the matter of him beating a lot of guys in title fights. but seriously, who is the most interesting opponent hes faced??

its just the same thing evertime, vs mainly b level guys, maybe at best an a- level guy. he could get to 100-0 for all i care doing that.

what i want is a fight with a welterweight top guy, like a spence or thurman. or even porter would be good.

[jamamb]

I just love watching Bud operate. He did an FMJ most of the night and then did what FMJ so seldom did for many years, finish when he could have cakewalked.

I agree that we need him in with the rest of the best at 147.

ya, hes very good no doubt

but unlike floyd he hasnt faced really anything close to an elite fighter, let along several of them. imagine if postol was floyds best win, youd have like 10x less of a career then

imagine if floyd in his prime and onto 32 years old was just repeatedly fighting guys like this, horn, indongo, postal, john molina, lundy, beltran, etc. some of that was down to 140 and 135 simply not being that strong when craw was there. thats not his fault, but it was the reality, and it meant very few interesting opponents

floyd did his thing at a higher level and that made it a bigger deal to me. ward did it at a higher level too. i just am finding it tough to stay too interested in these types of fights over and over and over for craw, even if he does box very well in them. i appreciate his ability but there more to it then just that.

[ironbeard]

I just love watching Bud operate. He did an FMJ most of the night and then did what FMJ so seldom did for many years, finish when he could have cakewalked.

I agree that we need him in with the rest of the best at 147.

ya, hes very good no doubt

but unlike floyd he hasnt faced really anything close to an elite fighter, let along several of them.

imagine if floyd in his prime and onto 32 years old was just repeatedly fighting guys like this, horn, indongo, postal, john molina, lundy, beltran, etc. some of that was down to 140 and 135 simply not being that strong when craw was there. thats not his fault, but it was the reality, and it meant very few interesting opponents

floyd did his thing at a higher level and that made it a bigger deal to me. ward did it at a higher level too. i just am finding it tought to stay too interested in these types of fights for craw, even if he does box very well in them. i appreciate his ability but there more to it then just that.

I disagree.

Canelo was green and drained, Pac was post planquiao, Maidana (twice), Ortiz, Berto, Cotto way over ripe, undersized JMM, Guerrero, Triggerless SSM, that little fella from the UK. Well timed cherry picking.

[jamamb]

sure, you can find negatives in pretty much anyone, but i think that applies vastly more to crawfords opposition

your talking like arguably career best wins over julius indongdo and victor postel. lol at a guy like unbeaten ricky hatton being put down and mocked in comparison to those guys

craws resume doesnt come remotely close to floyds

[ironbeard]

sure, you can find negatives in pretty much anyone, but i think that applies vastly more to crawfords opposition

your talking like arguably career best wins over julius indongdo and victor postel

craws resume doesnt come remotely close to floyds

Yet.

Again, he has thoroughly humbled everyone he has fought. No controversy. Pure, consistent domination.

I think Spence may be Craws nemesis.

[jamamb]

ya, i dont know why that keeps getting mentioned as if im arguing otherwise, im certanly not denying hes dominating all these b level guys. he shown hes far better then horn, indongo, postel, john molina, lundy, beltran, etc.

craw vs spence would be amazing, but im guessing something like craw vs adames is more likely next.

[ironbeard]

ya, i dont know why that keeps getting mentioned as if im arguing otherwise, im certanly not denying hes dominating all these b level guys. he shown hes far better then horn, indongo, postel, john molina, lundy, beltran, etc.

craw vs spence would be amazing, but im guessing something like craw vs adames is more likely next.

. . . and Spence vs Collazo

[jamamb]

that would certanly suck

[detamour]

I just love watching Bud operate. He did an FMJ most of the night and then did what FMJ so seldom did for many years, finish when he could have cakewalked.

I agree that we need him in with the rest of the best at 147.

Floyd Mayweather, never Pretended to be a Puncher Did he? Strangely, Nobody Could walk Through & punch Right Through him could they!

[ironbeard]

I just love watching Bud operate. He did an FMJ most of the night and then did what FMJ so seldom did for many years, finish when he could have cakewalked.

I agree that we need him in with the rest of the best at 147.

Floyd Mayweather, never Pretended to be a Puncher Did he? Strangely, Nobody Could walk Through & punch Right Through him could they!

Are you suggesting that Crawford has “Pretended to be a Puncher?” Or, are you pretending that FMJ has a resumé of great punchers, in their prime?

Crawford just beat a huge, undefeated, 26 year old welterweight comprehensively. He broke the kid down FMJ style and finished him Crawford style.

FMJ’s record is what it is. He is undefeated. For the last 9 years of his career he was mind numbingly boring; more boring than Crawford will ever be.

[DrDuke]

I won't say exactly so, be he lacks star scalps. He is exeptionally talented though.

[littlepug]

People don't seem to be happy with Crawford beating good fighters, seem he needs to fight guys that also have star power for him to be taken seriously ! Folks are struggling to separate the showbusiness from the fight business.

[DrDuke]

People don't seem to be happy with Crawford beating good fighters, seem he needs to fight guys that also have star power for him to be taken seriously ! Folks are struggling to separate the showbusiness from the fight business.

Some of the stars are the stars for reason. But I won't say, that it really affect Crawford's career in such sense. I mean, Crawford had very good opposition anyway. And he was always looking spectacular. Yet he needs to unify in his new cathegory.

[ironbeard]

People don't seem to be happy with Crawford beating good fighters, seem he needs to fight guys that also have star power for him to be taken seriously ! Folks are struggling to separate the showbusiness from the fight business.

Some of the stars are the stars for reason. But I won't say, that it really affect Crawford's career in such sense. I mean, Crawford had very good opposition anyway. And he was always looking spectacular. Yet he needs to unify in his new cathegory.

Of course you do not mean the way FMJ unified.

[DrDuke]

People don't seem to be happy with Crawford beating good fighters, seem he needs to fight guys that also have star power for him to be taken seriously ! Folks are struggling to separate the showbusiness from the fight business.

Some of the stars are the stars for reason. But I won't say, that it really affect Crawford's career in such sense. I mean, Crawford had very good opposition anyway. And he was always looking spectacular. Yet he needs to unify in his new cathegory.

Of course you do not mean the way FMJ unified.

Of course, I don't.

[jamamb]

People don't seem to be happy with Crawford beating good fighters, seem he needs to fight guys that also have star power for him to be taken seriously ! Folks are struggling to separate the showbusiness from the fight business.

ppl dont seem to comprehend what im saying. 'but hes 12-0 in title fight' , 'but he beats these guys as throughly as possible', 'you dont take him seriously?' , oh, while i actually appreciate his skill' etc....all miss the point

i take him plenty seriously, i know hes really good and has dominated a bunch of title fights, but i am just losing interest in his fights. i mean here you have this great talent, and yet 34 fights in and getting ranked p4p 1, yet indongo might be his biggest win. its just the same type of opponents over and over and pretty much anyone could see how there going to go ahead of time vs these guys. what have really been eagerly anticipated opponents?

and lol at some of the dressing up of benavidez, sure lets put down guys like hatton and canelo, but then hype up a guy whose best win is a gift years ago vs herrera. omg but joses 6 feet tall and his record was all nice and prettly padded! thats what we call reaching

[IKSRTFO]

Excelkent fighter but he certainly gets hit, Benavidez had some real success countering TC tonight but didn't have the power to rattle Crawford. I'm confident Spence beats Crawford.

Spence gets hit more than Bud does. Add to that, Bud actually moves more and is a bit faster and quicker on his feet than Spence is. All Spence has over Crawford is power.

[ewenhay]

It was an excellent performance by Crawford topped off by a superb finish.

Some of you guys don't know what you are watching.

[jamamb]

is that really being denied he finished well and showed a high standard yet again? havent seen much of that tbh

ppl keep saying stuff that in realty highlights my point. we have this excellent talent whose racking up dominant performance after dominant performance. hes got all these title fight wins. but he still really doesnt have a standout win and his fights its just the same thing over and over again with him outclassing and gradually picking away at second tier opposition. to me other guys like canelo and loma and ggg and thurman and hurd have all either better 'best' wins or better 'best' opponents. and even usyk, being a pro way shorter then craw, already has comparable top results.

theres no real intrigue anymore and none of these type of guys really add anything more to his standing. his opposition level has been pretty stagnate for years and there are more interesting matchups to talk about. just a bit stale for me. now being talked about him fighting that lithuanian whose with top rank. just more of the same.

for such a great talent who many rank as p4p 1 to have indongo as possibly his biggest fight 34 matches in is just disappointing.

[squiggy]

really, if were being realistic, we should prob be thinking more of adames-crawford then spence-craw. craw will hardly lose a round and will just peck away at that level, as weve seen over and over and over and over, vs postol, burns, dongo, beltran, john molina, horn, lundy, etc

for me, to be truly great, like a floyd, we need that extra step up

It's interesting to bring up Floyd in this regard, because the pre-welterweight part of his career isn't all that different from Crawford's. Couldn't really have built an ATG resume off of Castillo, Corrales, Manfredy, Hernandez, and Gatti. Hopefully Crawford finds bigger name opponents from here on.