Oquendo Turns Down Miller, WBA Title Shot Over VADA Testing

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Oquendo Turns Down Miller, WBA Title Shot Over VADA Testing

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"Oquendo Turns Down Miller, WBA Title Shot Over VADA Testing"

Fres Oquendo’s overdue WBA world heavyweight title shot has been delayed yet again.

According to an ESPN.com report Wednesday night, the inactive, 45-year-old contender turned down a fight for what will be a vacant version of the WBA’s heavyweight title. Oquendo reportedly was offered $500,000 to fight unbeaten Jarrell Miller on November 17 in Atlantic City, New Jersey, but he declined that bout because Oquendo doesn’t think there’s enough time to properly implement Voluntary Anti-Doping Association testing for performance-enhancing drugs.

ESPN.com also reported Miller now likely will box Bogdan Dinu at Boardwalk Hall three weeks from Saturday night. Romania’s Dinu has accepted promoter Eddie Hearn’s offer to meet Miller, whose approval was needed as of Wednesday night to finalize the deal.

The 30-year-old Miller (22-0-1, 19 KOs) is less than three weeks removed from knocking out 41-year-old former contender Tomasz Adamek (53-6, 31 KOs) in the second round of their scheduled 12-rounder October 6 at Wintrust Arena in Chicago. The 32-year-old Dinu (18-0, 14 KOs) is scheduled to battle England’s Tom Little (10-6, 3 KOs) in a 10-rounder Saturday night in Sofia, Bulgaria, but assuming Miller agrees to terms, Dinu won’t proceed with that bout.

Hearn hopes to announce the bout between Miller, who’s ranked No. 2 by the WBA, and the ninth-ranked Dinu at a press conference scheduled for Saturday afternoon in New York to promote the November 17 card in Atlantic City.

Oquendo understandably wants VADA testing for what would be his first fight since losing a 12-round majority decision to Uzbekistan’s Ruslan Chagaev (34-3-1, 21 KOs) in their WBA title fight in July 2014 in Grozny, Russia. The WBA is legally obliged to afford Oquendo another title shot because he successfully sued the WBA to enforce a rematch clause in his contract for his loss to Chagaev, who has since retired.

The WBA’s first two attempts to meet its obligation to Oquendo were scrapped because his proposed opponents, Shannon Briggs and later Manuel Charr, failed PED tests.

Chicago’s Oquendo (37-8, 24 KOs) was supposed to challenge Charr (31-4, 17 KOs) for the WBA world heavyweight title September 29 in Cologne, Germany.

That fight was canceled on short notice because Charr tested positive for two anabolic steroids, drostanolone and trenbolone. The WBA is expected to strip him of a championship Charr won last November 25, when he defeated Russia’s Alexander Ustinov (34-2, 25 KOs) by 12-round unanimous decision in Oberhausen, Germany.

The Charr cancelation marked the second time in 16 months Oquendo’s overdue title shot was postponed due to a PED ordeal. He was supposed to box Brooklyn’s Shannon Briggs for that title in June 2017, but that bout was canceled on short notice once VADA determined Briggs (60-6-1, 53 KOs, 1 NC) had dramatically elevated levels of testosterone in his system.


Thoughts? :-?
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This is hilarious! :lol:

The delay that Fres Oquendo has just caused will likely result in him being inactive for about 4½ years. And by the (earliest) time the American steps foot into the ring he’ll be approaching 46 years of age and wouldn’t have won a contest for almost five years. :o

On a side note, does anyone know anything about this 32 years Bogdan Dinu fellow?

This Romanian is a youngster in comparison the completely shot old veterans that Miller usually fights, but I don’t recognise any of the names on his resume. And after taking a brief look at one of his bouts on YouTube, the (probably) premature conclusion I’ve drawn is that he isn’t anything special.

I’m guessing that Eddie Hearn has matched Jarrell Miller with Bogdan Dinu, in the same way Arnold Gjergjaj became the sacrificial lamb for David Haye, as it allows DAZN to televise a bout showcasing their world title contender decimating an overmatched opponent possessing an unbeaten record? It’s simply another KO for the highlight reel.
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Helenius had Dinu as sparring partner when he was preparing to fight Duhaupas.

Dinu has really fought no one of note so far. Miller should have no trouble with him.
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Dinu is Romanian
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So, when the opponent wasn't likely to withdraw, Oquendo did it himself?
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If he is inactive for 5 years he can be on the hall of fame ballet? Not that he would get in but still.
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I'm curious if the WBA could drop him from the ratings and not give him a title shot since he turned down a shot at it?
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I mean really? What's left for Oquendo if he turns down this fight and shot at WBA BS title? WWE?
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I'm sort of glad Oquendo isn't fighting Miller.
Fat bloke batters old fella isn't something I want to watch.
As for Miller, getting bored waiting for him to fight someone decent. He is going to end up fighting Joshua with the weakest resume and be totally out of his depth in a PPV I won't bother to pay for.
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tiny_acres wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 13:36 I'm curious if the WBA could drop him from the ratings and not give him a title shot since he turned down a shot at it?
Yes. This could be an idea.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 15:12
tiny_acres wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 13:36 I'm curious if the WBA could drop him from the ratings and not give him a title shot since he turned down a shot at it?
Yes. This could be an idea.
And risk another lawsuit? Get the old bugger in with someone quick so it's all over and done with, that's what I say.
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Gnome wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 15:40
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 15:12
tiny_acres wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 13:36 I'm curious if the WBA could drop him from the ratings and not give him a title shot since he turned down a shot at it?
Yes. This could be an idea.
And risk another lawsuit? Get the old bugger in with someone quick so it's all over and done with, that's what I say.
They’re givin him the title shot tho. I think he was offered $500k.. turned it down.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 15:43
Gnome wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 15:40
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 15:12

Yes. This could be an idea.
And risk another lawsuit? Get the old bugger in with someone quick so it's all over and done with, that's what I say.
They’re givin him the title shot tho. I think he was offered $500k.. turned it down.
I know what you mean, but I think the circus will only be over once the bell rings for round one. Plus I would like Fres to finally fight.
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How much money could this guy have to turn that down? Is he aware of his age? I have nothing against Oquendo, feel kind of bad for him, but it's not as though the boxing world is clamoring for him. He's not really in a position to negotiate.
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By withdrawing does he not void their obligation to him?
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he shouldve just covered up a few rounds then taken a knee or something
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Can't say I blame Oquendo for not fancying the job. Charr would have been relatively painless.

Miller v Dinu? Can Dinu actually fight? I guess we'll find out, and for that reason it has to be more interesting than watching Miller roll over another old geezer who doesn't know when to call it a day.
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Given the recent history with his opponents I think Oquendo’s objection is valid. He’ll get his shot, it’s court ordered and presumably this doesn’t void that...
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 15:43
Gnome wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 15:40
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 15:12

Yes. This could be an idea.
And risk another lawsuit? Get the old bugger in with someone quick so it's all over and done with, that's what I say.
They’re givin him the title shot tho. I think he was offered $500k.. turned it down.
credible russian site saying OQUENDO turned down $1 million !
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dickbelden wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 09:38
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 15:43
Gnome wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 15:40
And risk another lawsuit? Get the old bugger in with someone quick so it's all over and done with, that's what I say.
They’re givin him the title shot tho. I think he was offered $500k.. turned it down.
credible russian site saying OQUENDO turned down $1 million !
ESPN first reported $1m too, then said it was actually $500k
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He turned it down because there is not enough time for VADA testing you can’t blame him after his last two scheduled fights have been canceled due to PEDS
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Post by funso banjo baby »

Dinu looked fairly solid a few years ago but seems to have been moving very slowly and needs to fight a higher level to test him
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It's vaguely plausible that Miller and Oquendo could still negotiate for a title fight more like 4 months from now, allowing for a VADA testing period that is to Oquendo's liking.
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craigjenkins05 wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 16:20 He turned it down because there is not enough time for VADA testing you can’t blame him after his last two scheduled fights have been canceled due to PEDS
well, if there was no testing thered be no ped failure this fight
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..just curious how much time they need " to properly implement Voluntary Anti-Doping Association testing for performance-enhancing drugs"?
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