What DAZN Means for Boxing, PBC, & SHOWTIME

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What DAZN Means for Boxing, PBC, & SHOWTIME

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"What DAZN Means for Boxing, PBC, & SHOWTIME"

There’s been a TON of talk about DAZN since Matchroom promoter Eddie Hearn and Goldenboy promoter Oscar De la Hoya lit the flame. On the American landscape the move was met with skepticism by fans and media alike. That skepticism has grown for some, but for others, we see that skepticism, coupled with borderline resentment, quickly fading. Here’s the skinny on why DAZN (pronounced Da Zone) could totally take the fight game over, and what this means for Al Haymon/Showtime:

Oscar De la Hoya recently spoke on how “cool” it would be to see Canelo fight in Mexico’s Azteca Stadium. Few were able to grasp the gravity of his thoughts, but a deeper analysis speaks to his vision. Under the old boxing way of life, it was basically a requirement to sell the fights exclusively in America and stage them at American venues because the American PPV count was what drove the bottom line profit dollars for American promoters. Under the DAZN platform, there’s no focus on American PPV counts or staging the fights in America because DAZN is a stream service, not a Channel Broadcast service. So basically, anyone who has internet service anywhere around the world can watch the fight on phone, tablet or TV in HD, regardless of where the fight is staged.

What does this mean? Remember Mayweather’s PPV tallies at 2M, 4M, 4.5M? Well, DAZN’s platform is tallied around the world, not just in America. So we could literally see numbers return upwards of 20M+ worldwide, or more. Casting a net that broad allows DAZN to pay the astronomical figures we’ve seen tossed around lately. What this also does is allows the fighters to take their talents abroad where large venues like Wembley and Azteca would break the charts! This phenomenon could produce a modern day “Thrilla-In-Manila”, or “Rumble in the Jungle”. (Just consider the magnitude of Canelo in Stadium Azteca on Cinco de Mayo). The days of paying $60, $70, or even $100 for PPV fights will become a distant memory in the past as soon as DAZN fills their stables with a roster of fighters the world wants to watch.

Canelo received a record breaking deal, becoming the flagship fighter of the banner. Behind him, you have Anthony Joshua and a hand full of others. Another name DAZN has been in full pursuit of is Mikey Garcia, although none of the fighters on Garcia’s radar would be possible if he were to sign with DAZN, which brings interest to the only downside with new streaming olive branch. The fact that it’s a stream service will make it very difficult to pair a fighter under this platform against a fighter under the network platform. For example, SHOWTIME is going to want the basic old school PPV platforms ($55-$100). DAZN is going to support their less-for-more $10 per month business model.

Fans can expect the two sides to figure something out when it comes to huge crossover fights like we saw with Mayweather (SHO) vs Pacquiao (HBO). But that will be the exception….not the norm, as the DAZN platform is actually a modernized evolution of the old process that will only continue to grow and evolve.

Caught in the middle is manager Al Haymon, who mapped out a similar trajectory with the PBC business model that goes away from PPV and allows networks to get in on the action. Only trouble there is that his model has been outdone with the advancement of technology, which now implements low-cost streaming. In effect, what we’re seeing is the same transition we watched in the music world where CD’s became obsolete, paving the way for streaming services like Tidal and Spotify. Haymon’s inability to make bigger fights for most of his talent earlier in the PBC deal has left him with a depleted rank of fighters that will now look at DAZN to produce the activity and circulation that Haymon’s enterprise didn’t deliver. Few in the world of entertainment have the brainpower and consummate ‘know-how’ of Al Haymon.

But truthfully, his options are minimal at this stage. Being more ‘manager’ than promoter, many of the fighters in his stable will eventually be met with offers they can’t refuse and exposure they can’t deny. It’ll be very intriguing to see how Haymon responds, but the best move he can make is probably to enlist the services of DAZN himself to add to his currently deep base of broadcasting opportunities. A decision not to consider this move could spell the beginning of the end for both, the PBC and Showtime platform, although it’s hard to see such an outcome with the next 3-4 years. Currently, all eyes are on Pacquiao, The Charlo Brothers, and Errol Spence as the best available talents on the roster. If either slips away to DAZN, the fight world could be forced to say goodbye to another broadcasting giant soon and very soon. Stay tuned!


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I mean it's absolutely correct that DAZN could spell the end for the traditional PPV model. It's ludicrous to expect fans to spend $70+ on 1 big fight with a trash undercard when for $10/mo you are getting excellent matchups just about every weekend.

I just hope it doesn't lead to further splintering of the sport.
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jujigatame wrote: 01 Nov 2018, 09:55 I mean it's absolutely correct that DAZN could spell the end for the traditional PPV model. It's ludicrous to expect fans to spend $70+ on 1 big fight with a trash undercard when for $10/mo you are getting excellent matchups just about every weekend.

I just hope it doesn't lead to further splintering of the sport.
It will definitely lead to more splintering of the sport.
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The PBC website lists 161 fighters and I’m not confident that their deals with Showtime and Fox include enough fight dates to keep every single one of these guys active.

Eddie Hearn has worked successfully with Al Haymon for several years and I see no reason for these guys to fall out with each other, despite being rivals of sorts.

I do expect Matchroom to make deals with several PBC fighters, because DAZN are obliged to provide a lot of events, but their roster is limited in size, so they definitely need to sign more boxers.

That being said, even if we do start seeing former PBC guys competing on DAZN shows, I thoroughly expect them to retain Al Haymon as their advisor or manager.

I feel that Al Haymon may not have particularly rosy relationships with Kathy Duva (Main Events/NBC), Oscar De La Hoya (Golden Boy/DAZN/ESPN) and Bob Arum (Top Rank/ESPN), so I would be surprised to see many PBC guys swapping allegiances with those promoters.
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jujigatame wrote: 01 Nov 2018, 09:55 I mean it's absolutely correct that DAZN could spell the end for the traditional PPV model. It's ludicrous to expect fans to spend $70+ on 1 big fight with a trash undercard when for $10/mo you are getting excellent matchups just about every weekend.

I just hope it doesn't lead to further splintering of the sport.
With DAZN already getting 2 of the most popular fighters in boxing under their banner I think they are more likely to consolidate boxing than splinter it long term. With how much money DAZN is seemingly putting into US boxing ($125M to Hearn a year, $66M to Canelo a year, who knows how much to GBP & the WBSS for their product) that puts them ALREADY at #1 all time in spending guaranteed money on boxing that I'm aware of. I believe HBO at its height was only throwing $100M-$120M into boxing & they had an All Star Game level of talent during those prime years.

So what can DAZN do spending $191M+ on boxing already with the 2 biggest names under their banner 2 months in when they are a year or two years or three years into this plan? Idk, but they are starting off pretty strong so if this trend continues DAZN could end up being bigger than HBO was during their best years I feel like.

For the short term (next 4-8 years) I think we are in a menage a trois boxing universe, DAZN/Hearn/Oscar, ESPN/Bob & PBC/Haymon/Showtime/Fox cuz I think all these current big deals in boxing are lasting 4 years to 8 years so no one big in the game is likely changing hands til their deal is up with a specific side or their side goes under after their deal with said platform runs out.
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