Could David Haye beat Tony Bellew if he didn’t have an injury?

OH_RickNMorty · Post by **OH_RickNMorty** » 27 Nov 2018, 17:47

If no injuries occurred before or during the fight, would it have gone any other way?

Obviously Haye would’ve had more of a chance, but could it help him come away with a win — and for those who do think he’d win, how?

Ruthless-RKO · Post by **Ruthless-RKO** » 14 Nov 2019, 12:06

Yes. Haye would have won.

Controversial · Post by **Controversial** » 15 Nov 2019, 03:56

Not so sure he would have, Bellew boxed well in those fights and took Haye's ability to land big punches away from him. I'm pretty sure Haye admitted afterwards that he doubts he would have ever beaten Bellew even at his best. Granted Haye was crocked but in the first fight his ankle was good for most of the fight and Bellew was outboxing him.

margaret thatcher · Post by **margaret thatcher** » 15 Nov 2019, 14:56

Controversial wrote: ↑15 Nov 2019, 03:56 Not so sure he would have, Bellew boxed well in those fights and took Haye's ability to land big punches away from him. I'm pretty sure Haye admitted afterwards that he doubts he would have ever beaten Bellew even at his best. Granted Haye was crocked but in the first fight his ankle was good for most of the fight and Bellew was outboxing him.

Nah, Haye was winning the first fight clearly until the ankle blew out and I think was up 4-1 x 3 with the judges. People often forget because of how the fight changed after the ankle, but it was Bellew starting to shell up and look tired right before it happened. That wasn't even prime Haye anyway and it still took Bellew like 6 extra rounds to end it even with Haye hobbling around.

SteveO · Post by **SteveO** » 15 Nov 2019, 15:36

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2019, 14:56Haye was winning the first fight clearly until the ankle blew out and I think was up 4-1 x 3 with the judges. People often forget because of how the fight changed after the ankle, but it was Bellew starting to shell up and look tired right before it happened. That wasn't even prime Haye anyway and it still took Bellew like 6 extra rounds to end it even with Haye hobbling around.

drunkenpiper36 · Post by **drunkenpiper36** » 15 Nov 2019, 16:19

Yes. In addition to injuries, Haye was also at the mercy of old age and inactivity.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 15 Nov 2019, 16:37

I don't like to give David Haye credit for anything.

So I'm gonna say No.

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 15 Nov 2019, 16:55

I don't remember a time Haye wasn't injured.

Ruthless-RKO · Post by **Ruthless-RKO** » 16 Nov 2019, 12:35

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2019, 14:56
Controversial wrote: ↑15 Nov 2019, 03:56 Not so sure he would have, Bellew boxed well in those fights and took Haye's ability to land big punches away from him. I'm pretty sure Haye admitted afterwards that he doubts he would have ever beaten Bellew even at his best. Granted Haye was crocked but in the first fight his ankle was good for most of the fight and Bellew was outboxing him.
Nah, Haye was winning the first fight clearly until the ankle blew out and I think was up 4-1 x 3 with the judges. People often forget because of how the fight changed after the ankle, but it was Bellew starting to shell up and look tired right before it happened. That wasn't even prime Haye anyway and it still took Bellew like 6 extra rounds to end it even with Haye hobbling around.

Yeh. That’s true.

Stuarty · Post by **Stuarty** » 16 Nov 2019, 13:33

Haye is a tit but the Haye that beat Mormeck and Enzo would've smashed Bellew...

ewenhay · Post by **ewenhay** » 17 Nov 2019, 12:16

Bellew admitted himself that the younger version of Haye would have beaten him.

Haye was done after Klitschko. His comeback was a shambles really from a boxing perspective.