Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 06:31
by TheLeprechaun
"walk over there and walk back to me"
What an idiot.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 06:45
by Enlightened-One
Most boxers receive more than the stipulated ten seconds whenever they suffer a heavy knockdown, because the ref has to ascertain the whether or not the fighter has sufficiently recovered in order to resume the contest. This is especially true for the final round of a world championship bout.
Have you ever seen the final round of the first bout between Julio César Chávez and Meldrick Taylor, where the fight was deemed by many to have been stopped prematurely?
There’s no scandal here. No one is complaining about the ref’s actions during the 12th round, apart from a select handful of die-hard Wilder supporters.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 07:16
by iamasadlittleboy
Wilder fans mentioning this is a bit rich following the whole stalled start of a round against Ortiz...
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 07:19
by Ruthless-RKO
I've said it before..
Jack Reiss is arguably the best ref in the biz today. He always communicates with the boxers and he did a great job last night..
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 07:30
by apollo creed
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 07:19
I've said it before..
Jack Reiss is arguably the best ref in the biz today. He always communicates with the boxers and he did a great job last night..
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 07:53
by SteveO
iamasadlittleboy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 07:16
Wilder fans mentioning this is a bit rich following the whole stalled start of a round against Ortiz...
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 07:58
by Ricky
Took a little long to restart it imo but overall it was good work by the ref.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 07:59
by Enlightened-One
iamasadlittleboy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 07:16
Wilder fans mentioning this is a bit rich following the whole stalled start of a round against Ortiz...
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 07:19
I've said it before..
Jack Reiss is arguably the best ref in the biz today. He always communicates with the boxers and he did a great job last night..
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 08:39
by danconnollyeire
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 06:31
"walk over there and walk back to me"
What an idiot.
pot kettle black
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 09:09
by Onetimeonly
Definitely was noticeable, still a great recovery and not abhorrent Reffing that completely determined the outcome like Castillo/Chico. Hopefully he put an end to asshats complaining about round eight.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 10:19
by digzee
Even Malignaggi speaks out about how they're helping Wilder.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 10:20
by digzee
Even Malignaggi speaks out about how they're helping Wilder.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 11:10
by Onetimeonly
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 11:26
by Ilya Muromets
iamasadlittleboy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 07:16
Wilder fans mentioning this is a bit rich following the whole stalled start of a round against Ortiz...
It wasn't even at the start of the round. The round was underway and they saw that Wilder was still rubber legged and on queer street from the previous round. The TV announcer, Malignaggi I think, yelled, "They can't do that!" They don't even want you to remember it. Whenever I bring it up the Wilder fans here Troll the thread. That was totally unprecedented and Ortiz should have been declared the winner or at least the fight a NC or at least an immediate rematch ordered. Instead it was memory holed. On the other hand Reiss' actions were more or less normal, tho Fury did get a little more time than the average. Reiss is a good ref. A lesser - or some crooked Las Vegas - ref would have waived the fight off. I've never seen anything like that recovery by Fury. I don't think anyone has.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
iamasadlittleboy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 07:16
Wilder fans mentioning this is a bit rich following the whole stalled start of a round against Ortiz...
It wasn't even at the start of the round. The round was underway and they saw that Wilder was still rubber legged and on queer street from the previous round. The TV announcer, Malignaggi I think, yelled, "They can't do that!" They don't even want you to remember it. Whenever I bring it up the Wilder fans here Troll the thread. That was totally unprecedented and Ortiz should have been declared the winner or at least the fight a NC or at least an immediate rematch ordered. Instead it was memory holed. On the other hand Reiss' actions were more or less normal, tho Fury did get a little more time than the average. Reiss is a good ref. A lesser - or some crooked Las Vegas - ref would have waived the fight off. I've never seen anything like that recovery by Fury. I don't think anyone has.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
iamasadlittleboy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 07:16
Wilder fans mentioning this is a bit rich following the whole stalled start of a round against Ortiz...
It wasn't even at the start of the round. The round was underway and they saw that Wilder was still rubber legged and on queer street from the previous round. The TV announcer, Malignaggi I think, yelled, "They can't do that!" They don't even want you to remember it. Whenever I bring it up the Wilder fans here Troll the thread. That was totally unprecedented and Ortiz should have been declared the winner or at least the fight a NC or at least an immediate rematch ordered. Instead it was memory holed. On the other hand Reiss' actions were more or less normal, tho Fury did get a little more time than the average. Reiss is a good ref. A lesser - or some crooked Las Vegas - ref would have waived the fight off. I've never seen anything like that recovery by Fury. I don't think anyone has.
See what I mean? There are way too many of these stupid trolls here.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 12:26
by Onetimeonly
Nobody would consider you anything but a stupid troll. You prove it here still bellyaching about wilder/Ortiz.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 12:28
by Ilya Muromets
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 12:26
Nobody would consider you anything but a stupid troll. You prove it here still bellyaching about wilder/Ortiz.
You complain about me and post stupid smilies but ignore the issue.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 12:26
Nobody would consider you anything but a stupid troll. You prove it here still bellyaching about wilder/Ortiz.
You complain about me and post stupid smilies but ignore the issue.
You're funny, like a clown to amuse me. I commented on the issue and knew you'd be here trolling the thread in one of your incarnations. You're the troll dwarf.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 12:26
Nobody would consider you anything but a stupid troll. You prove it here still bellyaching about wilder/Ortiz.
You complain about me and post stupid smilies but ignore the issue.
You're funny, like a clown to amuse me. I commented on the issue and knew you'd be here trolling the thread in one of your incarnations. You're the troll dwarf.
So clever.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 12:39
by jamamb
that whole 'go ever there and come bac' stuff is very wdespread these days in the us. they must have recently made it a policy or something
but ya this and the wlder -ort round 8 stuff should balance out. only very biased such as leppy or muramats can really go on as though ones totally fine but the other wasnt
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 12:50
by Ilya Muromets
jamamb wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 12:39
that whole 'go ever there and come bac' stuff is very wdespread these days in the us. they must have recently made it a policy or something
but ya this and the wlder -ort round 8 stuff should balance out. only very biased such as leppy or muramats can really go on as though ones totally fine but the other wasnt
You said it yourself, Reiss' behavior was normal; the interrupting rd. 8 to give rubber legged Wilder a break was unprecedented, and like Malignaggi said, They can't do that.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
jamamb wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 12:39
that whole 'go ever there and come bac' stuff is very wdespread these days in the us. they must have recently made it a policy or something
but ya this and the wlder -ort round 8 stuff should balance out. only very biased such as leppy or muramats can really go on as though ones totally fine but the other wasnt
You said it yourself, Reiss' behavior was normal; the interrupting rd. 8 to give rubber legged Wilder a break was unprecedented, and like Malignaggi said, They can't do that.
You're still mad? Relax dwarf.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 13:45
by oogiebe
I'm a Wilder fan. I predicted Wilder by KO 5-6th round. I saw the 12th round knockdown and had no thoughts of anything "out of the ordinary" in how the referee handled the KD, except that it was perfectly done. Kudos to Tyson Fury for an amazing effort and extraordinary recuperative powers to get up from the 12th round knockdown. I hope they have a rematch and settle all of this more definitively. Can't wait to see the fight and score it for myself.
Re: Jack Reiss gave Fury exactly 22 seconds in the 12th round knockdown
Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 14:02
by ironbeard
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 06:31
"walk over there and walk back to me"
What an idiot.
Please make a pledge that this will be the only thread that you create on this subject. Please do not be like the dudes who can’t let the Wilder v Ortiz fight go.
Fury di an amazing job finishing that fight. The ref did an excellent job.