Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 09:58
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Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 11:00
BIG step up for Joyce.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 11:23
Can be interesting. Joyce hasn't faced anyone close to Ortiz' level, but who knows, how far Joyce will develop as a pro. He's not young obviously, but still is fresher, than Ortiz.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 11:40
I'd like to see it. Joyce is already in his mid 30's they don't really have a lot of time to waste with this guy as far as finding out if he can make it at the top. I don't know if I'd 'jump up as far as Ortiz straight away, but I'd be looking at guys like this by his 10th fight at the latest.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 11:45
Joyce v the winner of Brezeale v Negron would be interesting.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 12:56
MAN. I'll be watching that. I think Joyce's handlers are crazy to go after Ortiz, but... I'm eager to see how it pans out.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:10
Joyce's entire pro career is 19 rounds, and he is no Loma. Ortiz will destroy him.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:14
Joyce beats Ortiz. Very good fight for Joyce to take. Totally winnable and would put him in a good position.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:24
I love The Juggernaut but..
As other have said - BIG - step up.
And, IF he wins then that's it ! He can't beat Ortiz then fight Dave Allen for the CommonWealth - it's Top 10 with effectively 1 fight experience.
What would the odds be ? Big fan of JJ - he could beat anyone if they had an off night - but Ortiz is the (slight) favourite, Shirley ?
55/45. Thoughts ?
As other have said - BIG - step up.
And, IF he wins then that's it ! He can't beat Ortiz then fight Dave Allen for the CommonWealth - it's Top 10 with effectively 1 fight experience.
What would the odds be ? Big fan of JJ - he could beat anyone if they had an off night - but Ortiz is the (slight) favourite, Shirley ?
55/45. Thoughts ?
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:31
A big step up but necessary for a boxer of his age as he hopes to reach the upper level while in his athletic prime.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:33
Ortiz will fight at a snail's pace like always. Younger more athletic guy will win here and it's Joyce.skanksta wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 13:24 I love The Juggernaut but..
As other have said - BIG - step up.
And, IF he wins then that's it ! He can't beat Ortiz then fight Dave Allen for the CommonWealth - it's Top 10 with effectively 1 fight experience.
What would the odds be ? Big fan of JJ - he could beat anyone if they had an off night - but Ortiz is the (slight) favourite, Shirley ?
55/45. Thoughts ?
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:35
Maybe, but Joyce is slow and very hittable.Mexi-Box wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 13:33Ortiz will fight at a snail's pace like always. Younger more athletic guy will win here and it's Joyce.skanksta wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 13:24 I love The Juggernaut but..
As other have said - BIG - step up.
And, IF he wins then that's it ! He can't beat Ortiz then fight Dave Allen for the CommonWealth - it's Top 10 with effectively 1 fight experience.
What would the odds be ? Big fan of JJ - he could beat anyone if they had an off night - but Ortiz is the (slight) favourite, Shirley ?
55/45. Thoughts ?
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:40
Ortiz, KO/TKO.................
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:43
Ortiz is even slower and more hittable.ironbeard wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 13:35Maybe, but Joyce is slow and very hittable.Mexi-Box wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 13:33Ortiz will fight at a snail's pace like always. Younger more athletic guy will win here and it's Joyce.skanksta wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 13:24 I love The Juggernaut but..
As other have said - BIG - step up.
And, IF he wins then that's it ! He can't beat Ortiz then fight Dave Allen for the CommonWealth - it's Top 10 with effectively 1 fight experience.
What would the odds be ? Big fan of JJ - he could beat anyone if they had an off night - but Ortiz is the (slight) favourite, Shirley ?
55/45. Thoughts ?
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 13:43
We disagree on both points.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 14:03
Are you sure you're not just embiggening Ortiz 'cos of your man crush on Deontay ?
Great fight this...
I THINK JJ is 55/45 (I@m a big fan) and hope the bookies' line is 55/45 the other way and I can have a bet.
It's tough to even be sure who is the favourite - makes it a great fight
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 14:15
skanksta wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 14:03Are you sure you're not just embiggening Ortiz 'cos of your man crush on Deontay ?
Great fight this...
I THINK JJ is 55/45 (I@m a big fan) and hope the bookies' line is 55/45 the other way and I can have a bet.
It's tough to even be sure who is the favourite - makes it a great fight
I am not a “man crush on Deontay” hater, like you and so many out there. On the subject though, I have no problem with Joyce going after Ortiz. I would enjoy the fight. I think that it is too big a step up, risk wise.
Why not start 2019 v the winner of Breazeale v Negron or maybe Hunter? Decent steps up. Then go for a Parker, Ortiz, or Povetkin.
Joyce was more impressive than Ortiz the other night to the eye, but Ortiz was in with the far more awkward and tough foe.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 14:23
I'm not a Deontay hater at all !ironbeard wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 14:15skanksta wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 14:03Are you sure you're not just embiggening Ortiz 'cos of your man crush on Deontay ?
Great fight this...
I THINK JJ is 55/45 (I@m a big fan) and hope the bookies' line is 55/45 the other way and I can have a bet.
It's tough to even be sure who is the favourite - makes it a great fight
On the subject though, I have no problem with Joyce going after Ortiz. I would enjoy the fight. I think that it is too big a step up, risk wise.
Why not start 2019 v the winner of Breazeale v Negron or maybe Hunter? Decent steps up. Then go for a Parker, Ortiz, or Povetkin.
Joyce was more impressive than Ortiz the other night to the eye, but Ortiz was in with the far more awkward and tough foe.
He's a very likeable and engaging fellow - When he stops all that "Booomb Squaaaaaaaaad" nonsense anyway. I just thought he's not very good.
Last two fights have kinda proved me wrong tho - he's a decent HW in any era.
As for Joyce - I fancy he'll beat Ortiz, but it's a huge step-up. He could easily get marmalised.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 14:27
skanksta wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 14:23I'm not a Deontay hater at all !ironbeard wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 14:15skanksta wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 14:03
Are you sure you're not just embiggening Ortiz 'cos of your man crush on Deontay ?
Great fight this...
I THINK JJ is 55/45 (I@m a big fan) and hope the bookies' line is 55/45 the other way and I can have a bet.
It's tough to even be sure who is the favourite - makes it a great fight
On the subject though, I have no problem with Joyce going after Ortiz. I would enjoy the fight. I think that it is too big a step up, risk wise.
Why not start 2019 v the winner of Breazeale v Negron or maybe Hunter? Decent steps up. Then go for a Parker, Ortiz, or Povetkin.
Joyce was more impressive than Ortiz the other night to the eye, but Ortiz was in with the far more awkward and tough foe.
He's a very likeable and engaging fellow - When he stops all that "Booomb Squaaaaaaaaad" nonsense anyway. I just thought he's not very good.
Last two fights have kinda proved me wrong tho - he's a decent HW in any era.
As for Joyce - I fancy he'll beat Ortiz, but it's a huge step-up. He could easily get marmalised.
I have never been a Wilder fan. I was a Fury fan until he went bumbling blob post Wlad.After the other night, they have both won me over.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 14:40
depends how joyce absorbs the power. he will be a handful for ortz if he can hold the shots and drag it on.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 15:31
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 06 Dec 2018, 06:03
Joyce style would be better matched against Whyte. Would be a slugfest. Might be too much of step up at this point.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 06 Dec 2018, 06:55
Joyce will make that old man work. He’s a god chance of beating him down the stretch.
Re: Luis ortiz vs Joe Joeyce
Posted: 06 Dec 2018, 11:32
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