How do you score the round?

[candyslim]

Fighter A is battering fighter B who is basically in flight mode but walks on to a desperation shot and takes a short count. It's a genuine knockdown but fighter A is more surprised than hurt and resumes the beatdown right from the command "Box". Fighter B hasn't been dropped but he has taken a real hiding. How do you score the round?

Let's say for the sake of argument there is nothing specific in the rules about this.

[Cent0089]

if i remember, Juan M. Marquez get 9-9 round against Michael Katsidis. He was domitating round bud gets knocked down. Maybe im wrong it was long time ago

[jamamb]

really thinking about it id say on balance the guy who was dropped got the better of the round, but ive been conditioned into scoring for guys who score the kds. i would prob just acquese (?) and score it 10-9 for the guy who scored the kd

i do think there should be a shift in scoring though, so that kds arent given so much credit. like you often see 10-8s when a guy scored a kd but the other guy really wasnt hurt and did more overall. the 'overall' equals more sustained and consistent success

[oogiebe]

if i remember, Juan M. Marquez get 9-9 round against Michael Katsidis. He was domitating round bud gets knocked down. Maybe im wrong it was long time ago

Must not have been 10 point must, or there was a point deduction. But if point deduction in 10 point must with KD would've been 9-8, I imagine. I don't recall the round.

[Ruthless-RKO]

if i remember, Juan M. Marquez get 9-9 round against Michael Katsidis. He was domitating round bud gets knocked down. Maybe im wrong it was long time ago

Must not have been 10 point must, or there was a point deduction. But if point deduction in 10 point must with KD would've been 9-8, I imagine. I don't recall the round.

Sounds about right.

[gilgamesh]

Fighter A is battering fighter B who is basically in flight mode but walks on to a desperation shot and takes a short count. It's a genuine knockdown but fighter A is more surprised than hurt and resumes the beatdown right from the command "Box". Fighter B hasn't been dropped but he has taken a real hiding. How do you score the round?

Let's say for the sake of argument there is nothing specific in the rules about this.

Depends on how significantly the downed fighter damaged the other guy. It seldom happens that I believe a guy that got a knockdown didn't win the round, and it helps a lot if the knockdown happened early in the round, and the guy that went down spends the rest of the round winning.

One example that comes to mind is Jameel McCline vs Calvin Brock. McCline dropped Brock pretty hard, but Brock got up, and beat him up pretty thoroughly through the rest of the round, and I only scored it 10-9 for McCline.

More often than not I'm gonna give the guy that scored the knockdown his 10-8 round, he has to have really gotten the worst of it for me not to do that.

It usually helps if you at least wobble the other guy in return who had dropped you.

On a similar note I've also seen rounds where there was no knockdown, but I still scored it 10-8. One specific example that comes to mind here was I believe Round 6 of Matthysse vs Provodnikov. Matthysse landed 42 punches to Provo's 7. That's 6 to 1....if that ain't good for a 10-8 round without a knockdown I don't know what is because that's just a straight ass kicking at that point.

[jamamb]

okay lets say matt was pounding on provo, 42 punches to 5, but then provos 6 punch scores a legit but flash knockdown, whats your score. round ends 42-6

[jamamb]

thing is, if a guy gets knocked down, not horrifically but legit, but then he wins the round aside from that, if you score 10-8 your treating his success as meaningless even though it was much more sustained then the other guys success. thats why i think the current scoring , where 10-8 rounds are almost pretty much defaulted, needs to be shifted

[Mexi-Box]

I think, IIRC, one of the judges gave Andy Lee a 10-9 round against Quillin even though he was dropped. There was controversy surrounding that; although, it wasn't a huge deal because the referee ruled an obvious slip a knockdown.

[Deleted_Scenes]

10-9, to the fighter who scored the knockdown.

[ValMar]

It is a very interesting question, honestly, I have been thinking about this problem for years.
If I must choose - then 10-8, KD is KD.

[Ilya Muromets]

All that stuff is pretty irrelevent if you're a boxing judge. You simply score it the way the mugs who hired you instructed you to score the rounds.

[jamamb]

It is a very interesting question, honestly, I have been thinking about this problem for years.
If I must choose - then 10-8, KD is KD.

and battering the other guy for 2: 50 is worth nothing?

imo its just not good reason to give a guy a 2 point round in this case, in facts its highly debatable that a non hurting knockdown is at all greater success than a 2:50 pummelling, were just all conditioned to favor kds

[Ilya Muromets]

Actually though, in theory at least, the judges would be expected to use discretion in scoring ambivalent situations. In practice, see my post right above, especially in high profile fights in certain places.

[przemo663]

It depends on judge. Judge can score it 10-8 or 10-9. There's possibility to "cancel" this one extra knockdown point and score a round "only" 10-9, but it's some kind of recommendation, not a rule.

From my perspective, i prefer 10-8 scoring in these cases. It's just simplier... In professional boxing there's too much situations, when judges can interprete things in diffrent ways.

[littlepug]

All that stuff is pretty irrelevent if you're a boxing judge. You simply score it the way the mugs who hired you instructed you to score the rounds.

In the movies maybe.

[DrDuke]

In fact knocking opponent down means taking a point from him. So, the guy wins the round, he should have a 10-9 round, but he was dropped without being hurt, he doesn't lose this round because of that, as he was dominating. But the point must be taken away from him. 9-9 sounds fine for me.

[tiny_acres]

In fact knocking opponent down means taking a point from him. So, the guy wins the round, he should have a 10-9 round, but he was dropped without being hurt, he doesn't lose this round because of that, as he was dominating. But the point must be taken away from him. 9-9 sounds fine for me.

Scoring is done on a 10 point must system.
That means that the winner of the round MUST receive 10 points.

[DrDuke]

In fact knocking opponent down means taking a point from him. So, the guy wins the round, he should have a 10-9 round, but he was dropped without being hurt, he doesn't lose this round because of that, as he was dominating. But the point must be taken away from him. 9-9 sounds fine for me.

Scoring is done on a 10 point must system.
That means that the winner of the round MUST receive 10 points.

When a winner is deducted a point, it's 9-9.

[paddy chavez]

In fact knocking opponent down means taking a point from him. So, the guy wins the round, he should have a 10-9 round, but he was dropped without being hurt, he doesn't lose this round because of that, as he was dominating. But the point must be taken away from him. 9-9 sounds fine for me.

Scoring is done on a 10 point must system.
That means that the winner of the round MUST receive 10 points.

What happens if the winner if the round has a point decucted ?

[tiny_acres]

In fact knocking opponent down means taking a point from him. So, the guy wins the round, he should have a 10-9 round, but he was dropped without being hurt, he doesn't lose this round because of that, as he was dominating. But the point must be taken away from him. 9-9 sounds fine for me.

Scoring is done on a 10 point must system.
That means that the winner of the round MUST receive 10 points.

When a winner is deducted a point, it's 9-9.

In thie scenario stated there was not a point deduction.
But if there is a point deduction then and only then can the winner of a round have less than 10 points.

[paddy chavez]

Scoring is done on a 10 point must system.
That means that the winner of the round MUST receive 10 points.

When a winner is deducted a point, it's 9-9.

In thie scenario stated there was not a point deduction.
But if there is a point deduction then and only then can the winner of a round have less than 10 points.

2 knock downs each in a round

[tiny_acres]

When a winner is deducted a point, it's 9-9.

In thie scenario stated there was not a point deduction.
But if there is a point deduction then and only then can the winner of a round have less than 10 points.

2 knock downs each in a round

10-10 is how I would score it. The winner must recieve 10 points

[DrDuke]

Scoring is done on a 10 point must system.
That means that the winner of the round MUST receive 10 points.

When a winner is deducted a point, it's 9-9.

In thie scenario stated there was not a point deduction.
But if there is a point deduction then and only then can the winner of a round have less than 10 points.

If you read my first comment properly, you could have seen, that I was suggesting the idea, that a knockdown was a kind of a point-deduction.

[tiny_acres]

When a winner is deducted a point, it's 9-9.

In thie scenario stated there was not a point deduction.
But if there is a point deduction then and only then can the winner of a round have less than 10 points.

If you read my first comment properly, you could have seen, that I was suggesting the idea, that a knockdown was a kind of a point-deduction.

No Sir a point deduction can only be applied by the ref