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The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 14:15
by ValMar
What do you think ?
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 14:16
by oogiebe
Marvin Haggler. Draw with Antoufermo and loss to SRL both hard to swallow.
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 15:37
by ezhmael
You should go with Rigo and Loma on this. Both wins convincingly. You can include the Joshua since KO'ed most of his opponents and the Russian guy that participated in the WBSS I think his name was Kurdryashov.
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 15:39
by tiny_acres
ezhmael wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:37
You should go with Rigo and Loma on this. Both wins convincingly. You can include the Joshua since KO'ed most of his opponents and the Russian guy that participated in the WBSS I think his name was Kurdryashov.
Joshua was helped tremendously by the ref in the Parker fight. Parker was not allowed to get on the inside with out being warned. Not that he had a chance but it would of been nice to let him have a chance
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 15:41
by jamamb
joshuas better inside then parker, his uppercuts the best at hw, i think the ref just sucked. but aj has defo had some generous judging
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 15:42
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:41
joshua better inside then parker, his uppercuts the best at hw
Yup, just ask Whyte and Wlad.
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 15:46
by tiny_acres
jamamb wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:41
joshuas better inside then parker, his uppercuts the best at hw, i think the ref just sucked. but aj has defo had some generous judging
And some premature stoppages.
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 15:48
by jamamb
takam was the one early one unless im forgetting
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 15:48
by oogiebe
tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:46
jamamb wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:41
joshuas better inside then parker, his uppercuts the best at hw, i think the ref just sucked. but aj has defo had some generous judging
And some premature stoppages.
Just saying, the post refers to NEVER had been helped... LOL!
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 15:52
by tiny_acres
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:48
tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:46
jamamb wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:41
joshuas better inside then parker, his uppercuts the best at hw, i think the ref just sucked. but aj has defo had some generous judging
And some premature stoppages.
Just saying, the post refers to NEVER had been helped... LOL!
Ezahmel claimed Joshua has never been helped. Just pointing out the flaw in his opinion

Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 15:52
by oogiebe
tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:52
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:48
tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:46
And some premature stoppages.
Just saying, the post refers to NEVER had been helped... LOL!
Ezahmel claimed Joshua has never been helped. Just pointing out the flaw in his opinion
Ah! Got it!

Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 16:09
by ValMar
Joshua - doubtful stoppage against Takam. Anyway, Joshua would have been the winner. Terrible scorecards (before the KO) against Povetkin. Again, Joshua would have been the winner.
I might be wrong, but I can not remember that judges/referees ever had helped Klitschko brothers.
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 16:16
by tiny_acres
ValMar wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 16:09
Joshua - doubtful stoppage against Takam. Anyway, Joshua would have been the winner. Terrible scorecards (before the KO) against Povetkin. Again, Joshua would have been the winner.
I might be wrong, but I can not remember that judges/referees ever had helped Klitschko brothers.
I would argue about ref not helping Wlad. His constant clinching or as I can his style Klitching.
He should of been warned way more times and been deducted way more points. I honestly thought he deserved to be dq'd against Povetkin. That was the worst case on over clinching
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 16:25
by ValMar
tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 16:16
ValMar wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 16:09
Joshua - doubtful stoppage against Takam. Anyway, Joshua would have been the winner. Terrible scorecards (before the KO) against Povetkin. Again, Joshua would have been the winner.
I might be wrong, but I can not remember that judges/referees ever had helped Klitschko brothers.
I would argue about ref not helping Wlad. His constant clinching or as I can his style Klitching.
He should of been warned way more times and been deducted way more points. I honestly thought he deserved to be dq'd against Povetkin. That was the worst case on over clinching
I am not sure Wlad should have been dq'd against Povetkin, but he should have been deducted a point (or two) definitely.
Border-line case, but Wlad would have been victorious, absolutely. Povetkin didn't do anything to deserve victory.
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 16:29
by tiny_acres
ValMar wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 16:25
tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 16:16
ValMar wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 16:09
Joshua - doubtful stoppage against Takam. Anyway, Joshua would have been the winner. Terrible scorecards (before the KO) against Povetkin. Again, Joshua would have been the winner.
I might be wrong, but I can not remember that judges/referees ever had helped Klitschko brothers.
I would argue about ref not helping Wlad. His constant clinching or as I can his style Klitching.
He should of been warned way more times and been deducted way more points. I honestly thought he deserved to be dq'd against Povetkin. That was the worst case on over clinching
I am not sure Wlad should have been dq'd against Povetkin, but he should have been deducted a point (or two) definitely.
Border-line case, but Wlad would have been victorious, absolutely. Povetkin didn't do anything to deserve victory.
No doubt Wlad would of still won. Just terrible bias ref in that fight

Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 04:12
by dagilechia
Juan Manuel Marquez
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 09:18
by Onetimeonly
Officiating has always been poor. What are you even trying to say?
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 12:11
by skanksta
JMM x2
Gentlemen Glenn "The Road Warrior" Johnson
Anyone who fought Sven Ottke
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Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 12:23
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 14:16
Marvin Haggler. Draw with Antoufermo and loss to SRL both hard to swallow.
Since 2000?
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 12:24
by Ruthless-RKO
jamamb wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:48
takam was the one early one unless im forgetting
That would have easily gone to the scorecards. But they had to keep his 100% KO streak alive before the Parker fight.
Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 12:24
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 12:23
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 14:16
Marvin Haggler. Draw with Antoufermo and loss to SRL both hard to swallow.
Since 2000?
I should read closer, along with a great many other posters on this thread!

Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 12:40
by greg
ValMar wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 14:15
What do you think ?

Re: The top level boxers never had been helped by the judges/referees (since 2000)
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 12:46
by Cent0089
skanksta wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 12:11
JMM x2
Gentlemen Glenn "The Road Warrior" Johnson
Anyone who fought Sven Ottke
One judge give Johnson a draw against Carl Froch